ashrana88

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I have to be honest, hearing that they tweaked the art-style to have more bimbo-esque proportions made me more interested in trying the game out. :LOL:

Looking at some of the on-going discourse in this thread, I feel really happy and vindicated to see people who share similar thoughts to me on enjoying an emphasis on storytelling, characterization, and world-building, and it's a shame to hear that the games development is apparently in a lull.

Hearing that the submissive route is basically just overt degradation and punching down with no nuance is a shame.
Obviously erotica sort of dilutes it, but the concept of a character being "weak", a pushover, powerless, or looked down upon because they enjoy being submissive in the bedroom is always a strange concept to me. Or that just because you enjoy taboo or humiliating sex, you can't be a capable warrior, or become stronger overtime. A women being considered "lesser" morally than a man, despite him participating in and initiating the same activities, doesn't ever sit right with me.

From what I see discussed, it sounds like the "dom" route isn't very traditionally femdom all of the time, but often a power-bottom situation, which is potentially something I would quite enjoy, but I would appreciate clarification on if you are missing out on a lot of content, as it sounds like you are, which is quite disappointing.
I greatly enjoy the more taboo kinks with monsters, gang-bangs or cum-play, but if all of that is locked behind the overtly mean-spirited sub route, then that is a shame.

It also sounds like there is that typical "dub-con" half-hearted denial of enjoyment trope, which definitely sounds it like it is contradictory and could cause the character progression to feel stagnant and unsatisfying beyond initial events. At a certain point you would imagine a character would be more transparent and honest with themselves and just go "yeah I like monster cock, so what?"

I would absolutely love a story or game that allows the female protag to become a strong badass warrior alongside enjoying taboo sluttery and promiscuity, sadly I can't think of any examples.
 

bitchass92

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I have to be honest, hearing that they tweaked the art-style to have more bimbo-esque proportions made me more interested in trying the game out. :LOL:

Looking at some of the on-going discourse in this thread, I feel really happy and vindicated to see people who share similar thoughts to me on enjoying an emphasis on storytelling, characterization, and world-building, and it's a shame to hear that the games development is apparently in a lull.

Hearing that the submissive route is basically just overt degradation and punching down with no nuance is a shame.
Obviously erotica sort of dilutes it, but the concept of a character being "weak", a pushover, powerless, or looked down upon because they enjoy being submissive in the bedroom is always a strange concept to me. Or that just because you enjoy taboo or humiliating sex, you can't be a capable warrior, or become stronger overtime. A women being considered "lesser" morally than a man, despite him participating in and initiating the same activities, doesn't ever sit right with me.

From what I see discussed, it sounds like the "dom" route isn't very traditionally femdom all of the time, but often a power-bottom situation, which is potentially something I would quite enjoy, but I would appreciate clarification on if you are missing out on a lot of content, as it sounds like you are, which is quite disappointing.
I greatly enjoy the more taboo kinks with monsters, gang-bangs or cum-play, but if all of that is locked behind the overtly mean-spirited sub route, then that is a shame.

It also sounds like there is that typical "dub-con" half-hearted denial of enjoyment trope, which definitely sounds it like it is contradictory and could cause the character progression to feel stagnant and unsatisfying beyond initial events. At a certain point you would imagine a character would be more transparent and honest with themselves and just go "yeah I like monster cock, so what?"

I would absolutely love a story or game that allows the female protag to become a strong badass warrior alongside enjoying taboo sluttery and promiscuity, sadly I can't think of any examples.
Well the problem I think with most of it is that instead of making any ONE of these work well- (I mean I considered the Kia nonsense to be quite a drag despite the overall quality of the game at the time still being in a "high") the overall "base states" of the project have dropped low.

People would be okay with the Bimboness but it sounds like the major problem is SURPRISE WE MADE HER A BIMBO AND IT TOOK US TEN YEARS with none of the fun of bimbofication.

Half the fun of a game like this and most hentai games are the story contexts. I don't mind Sabia trying to maintain a veneer or a reputation at camp but the execution has become more and more lame and we literally have had stats regarding progression, freedom/slavery, dom/sub

But when you interact with characters this actually plays such a minor role as in just an ON/OFF trigger.

Instead of my time investment trigger different in camp dialogues and behaviors it just opens scenes and instead of the devs implementing any ONE system to a fun or high degree it's like 35 systems now.

If I show up to see Tekrok and don't have a quest Tekrok is busy, leave.
But if they used their brains a bit, why not have meaningful OR menial (context) tasks to do for your captains? Easy repeatable scenes that actually utilize your progress stats? Having to clean up after orc parties/missions or ways that assert dominance or submission in less explicit ways than outright sex.

If you're solo "dom" Sabia having your bitches do that for you/whatever.
Would be way less hard to write and add so much more than these off brand rescue the ho quests or find the wagon/mcguffin.

But as far as seeing Sabia become a character that could at least BE multifaceted and both love being a total whore and still capable enough to get her revenge....
That ship sailed long ago.
 

BigBiggieBig

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That ship sailed long ago.
It likely sailed as soon as the first writer got swapped for the second. I keep forgetting who the current writer is, but I don't really care to as their writing is objectively sub-par and lacking. Maybe they can write words correctly and in a manner that delivers the message properly, but:

A) There is absolutely no thought going into the words being delivered
B) The message is dogshit

He has no nuance and no understanding of sexuality, man's one step away from going full hentai logic on Sabia and it's pretty tragic to watch it happen as this game actually had a semblance of "Huh, this character is kinda interesting." at one point that has been brutally murdered by lazy writing that just exists to justify jumping into the next re-hashed CG so that the game's patrons can jack off and keep dishing out monthly payments for bi-annual updates. The way that Sub Sabia handles the Shaman is the definition of "You went full retard", it feels as if Sabia basically took half her brain out via magic and then pulled the plug on the other half, utterly braindead and unbelievable.

You cannot tell me that whoever wrote that shit has ever interacted with another human being let alone a woman, it's almost embarrassing to go through.

On the other hand, Sierra (The first writer) is still going strong with a game that has one of the strongest narratives I've seen in a porn game, hell, strip away the smut and it's a solid visual novel by itself. Strip away the smut from KoD and you have a pile of shit.
 

Enigmanic

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It likely sailed as soon as the first writer got swapped for the second. I keep forgetting who the current writer is, but I don't really care to as their writing is objectively sub-par and lacking. Maybe they can write words correctly and in a manner that delivers the message properly, but:

A) There is absolutely no thought going into the words being delivered
B) The message is dogshit

He has no nuance and no understanding of sexuality, man's one step away from going full hentai logic on Sabia and it's pretty tragic to watch it happen as this game actually had a semblance of "Huh, this character is kinda interesting." at one point that has been brutally murdered by lazy writing that just exists to justify jumping into the next re-hashed CG so that the game's patrons can jack off and keep dishing out monthly payments for bi-annual updates. The way that Sub Sabia handles the Shaman is the definition of "You went full retard", it feels as if Sabia basically took half her brain out via magic and then pulled the plug on the other half, utterly braindead and unbelievable.

You cannot tell me that whoever wrote that shit has ever interacted with another human being let alone a woman, it's almost embarrassing to go through.

On the other hand, Sierra (The first writer) is still going strong with a game that has one of the strongest narratives I've seen in a porn game, hell, strip away the smut and it's a solid visual novel by itself. Strip away the smut from KoD and you have a pile of shit.
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HikkiXxX

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Hello guys, it's me, again, just finished a new edit, for this one I used the variant pack 11 to make a new scene in the bar, here a few samples of how could look a full scene, around 50-60 cgs
As always, if someone thinks that this could be upgraded, feel free to say it, I'm always looking to improve, or, if you want, edit it yourself, after all, this is for all of us Sabia bar table test 1.jpg Sabia bar table test 2.jpg Sabia bar table test 3.jpg Sabia bar table test 4.jpg Sabia bar table test 5.jpg Sabia bar table test 6.jpg Sabia bar table test 7.jpg Sabia bar table test 8.jpg
 

BigBiggieBig

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Hello guys, it's me, again, just finished a new edit, for this one I used the variant pack 11 to make a new scene in the bar, here a few samples of how could look a full scene, around 50-60 cgs
As always, if someone thinks that this could be upgraded, feel free to say it, I'm always looking to improve, or, if you want, edit it yourself, after all, this is for all of us
Holy shit, this is some solid work, ten outta ten. Would love to see potential fingering, but I think that's more of a Nomo task.
 

Negativpro0

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Hello guys, it's me, again, just finished a new edit, for this one I used the variant pack 11 to make a new scene in the bar, here a few samples of how could look a full scene, around 50-60 cgs
As always, if someone thinks that this could be upgraded, feel free to say it, I'm always looking to improve, or, if you want, edit it yourself, after all, this is for all of us View attachment 2372425 View attachment 2372426 View attachment 2372427 View attachment 2372428 View attachment 2372429 View attachment 2372430 View attachment 2372431 View attachment 2372432
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Looks wonderful, thanks for making this it is great. Really looking forward for more
 

nyqz

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Hello guys, it's me, again, just finished a new edit, for this one I used the variant pack 11 to make a new scene in the bar, here a few samples of how could look a full scene, around 50-60 cgs
As always, if someone thinks that this could be upgraded, feel free to say it, I'm always looking to improve, or, if you want, edit it yourself, after all, this is for all of us
Damn these look great. The reuse of the skirt is really clever. One bit of feedback is that the penis is slightly too wide for her mouth, especially at the bottom of Sabia's mouth. atm you haven't kept the interior thickness of her lips in mind. But that's a pretty minor detail that you probably wouldn't notice if you weren't looking carefully.
Also had a shot at fixing up some of the saliva from the original to match your edit. I think it turned out ok.
Sabia_bar_table_test_4.1_.png

Also I've attached the layer with just the tweaked mouth incase you feel like doing more work with this set and want to use it.
 

HikkiXxX

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Thank you all for the comments, maybe in the next days I'll make a .rar with a full cg and maybe some variants. I want to write something, mostly to add context to the scenes, but since I'm not a native english speaker it could be awkward, so if it inspires someone, feel free to write something
 

HikkiXxX

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Damn these look great. The reuse of the skirt is really clever. One bit of feedback is that the penis is slightly too wide for her mouth, especially at the bottom of Sabia's mouth. atm you haven't kept the interior thickness of her lips in mind. But that's a pretty minor detail that you probably wouldn't notice if you weren't looking carefully.
Also had a shot at fixing up some of the saliva from the original to match your edit. I think it turned out ok.
View attachment 2373302

Also I've attached the layer with just the tweaked mouth incase you feel like doing more work with this set and want to use it.
thank you very much, it was very late when I was finishing the edit so I'm glad you notice it, I'll use it with the new edits
 

Negativpro0

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Thank you all for the comments, maybe in the next days I'll make a .rar with a full cg and maybe some variants. I want to write something, mostly to add context to the scenes, but since I'm not a native english speaker it could be awkward, so if it inspires someone, feel free to write something
Enigmatic is a writer maybe he can write something for those nice CGs. See you are one coder short to make a full team. Cheers
 

Xill

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I can understand people's frustration with the repetitive art and how it might seem lazy (and honestly, due to how long these updates takes I'd say people have the right of it) but on the other hand I wanna see these repeating scenes, especially since it has to do with Sabia and the orcs training. Finally. Been waiting for this kind of scenario since one of the first updates YEARS ago when it was about Sabia getting her own orc unit.

So sad that it takes so long and they have to sacrifice other things.

Nomo's art deserves a better team of developers...
 

BigBiggieBig

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What is this game?
The Last Sovereign.

It's a male protag game, which is the one reason I'm not the biggest fan of it in terms of smut content, but honestly, there is a lot of variety and the writing is solid. Just keep in mind a lot of the scenes are simply text-based.
 
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