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Enigmanic

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It just goes to show.. if NDS and Monsinne were really interested in doing a good job on this game they could have at least explored the possibility of using AI while Nomo's sick.

..or they could actually learn how to write and code.
 

xhyde

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Does anyone have a link to the new update they finally put out? i know its not much but still like to see the used asset scenes they put out
 

BigBiggieBig

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This is pretty promising, just a few touch-ups and I'd be down with having it in-game.

Nomo can be replaced by robots.
The writer can be replaced by anyone who passed 3rd grade English.
And the coder can be replaced by a monkey paid for with two bananas a day.

I wonder if a surge in AI generated content of Sabia would make Hreinn worry enough to actually work on their game.
 

DreamingAway

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If ~someone~ trained a "Nomo Art Style" and sent it to them, do you think they would use it or be offended? :unsure:

Based on this thread, it seems their community is very ban happy.. is Nomo cold / callous to fans approaching them with new ideas / suggestions?

Looking through NN and KoD - it *seems* they don't really leverage "modular design" in their artwork very much, they will make swappable heads / clothes for important NPC's but it's very limited. Redrawing things from scratch is a progress killer and very laborious.

I feel like they would appreciate this technology more than anyone.. They could still exert creative control over everything but AI would do a lot of the repetitive tasks for them and probably help their motivation levels.


The hands need a little clean up. Even on the second image, her finger nails are trying to escape her body.
 
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Skarfaze

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If ~someone~ trained a "Nomo Art Style" and sent it to them, do you think they would use it or be offended? :unsure:

Based on this thread, it seems their community is very ban happy.. is Nomo cold / callous to fans approaching them with new ideas / suggestions?

Looking through NN and KoD - it *seems* they don't really leverage "modular design" in their artwork very much, they will make swappable heads / clothes for important NPC's but it's very limited. Redrawing things from scratch is a progress killer and very laborious.

I feel like they would appreciate this technology more than anyone.. They could still exert creative control over everything but AI would do a lot of the repetitive tasks for them and probably help their motivation levels.




The hands need a little clean up. Even on the second image, her finger nails are trying to escape her body.
The entire discord server is very anti AI i believe , including the devs so i dont think they would take kindly to any such approach. No matter how foolish that seems it would only result in a swift ban i think.
 
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DreamingAway

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Okay I attempted to train my own "Nomo Style" LORA. (Using KOD / NN / Rule34)

It does not have any concepts of characters..
So there is no such thing as "Sabia" or "Neve" in the tagging, if you want those characters you have to describe them.

I did a few quick tests .. with the following rules:
- No Controlnets (meaning the poses are purely prompt based, each image may look slightly different)
- No image touchups or fixups or seed cherry picking
- No Segmenting (each image will have small variations, like clothing changes or background changes)

Known Issues So Far:
I can already see a problem with my tagging, I completely trashed "ponytail" with "folded ponytail" training. I will need to pick a single word tag that doesn't do that.


The image prompts left to right are:

[Describing Sabia as best I can]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and elf ears]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and cat ears]

The background is just "Sunny Day, Village, Huts, Grass" :LOL:


Feedback appreciated - is the art style over cooked or under cooked?

I will likely need to do another run (or 10.. :cautious:), so if people think the style is wrong / bad - please say so.

- Focus criticism / feedbacl on the art style (both background & characters), the color palette, line work, shading style, etc.
- Ignore inconsistencies in height / clothing / pose. Those are fixed in a different way.

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Great730

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Okay I attempted to train my own "Momo Style" LORA. (Using KOD / NN / Rule34)

It does not have any concepts of characters..
So there is no such thing as "Sabia" or "Neve" in the tagging, if you want those characters you have to describe them.

I did a few quick tests .. with the following rules:
- No Controlnets (meaning the poses are purely prompt based, each image may look slightly different)
- No image touchups or fixups or seed cherry picking
- No Segmenting (each image will have small variations, like clothing changes or background changes)

Known Issues So Far:
I can already see a problem with my tagging, I completely trashed "ponytail" with "folded ponytail" training. I will need to pick a single word tag that doesn't do that.


The image prompts left to right are:

[Describing Sabia as best I can]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and elf ears]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and cat ears]

The background is just "Sunny Day, Village, Huts, Grass" :LOL:


Feedback appreciated - is the art style over cooked or under cooked?

I will likely need to do another run (or 10.. :cautious:), so if people think the style is wrong / bad - please say so.

- Focus criticism / feedbacl on the art style (both background & characters), the color palette, line work, shading style, etc.
- Ignore inconsistencies in height / clothing / pose. Those are fixed in a different way.

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This is definitely cool of course there is no limit to perfection I like that the sporty style has not been lost after all, initially all the heroines had a sporty and drawn figure with a press, the main thing I want is if a game based on the kingdom of deception really appears, so fuck the orcs and their village with smelly tents
 
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TheMagister

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Okay I attempted to train my own "Momo Style" LORA. (Using KOD / NN / Rule34)

It does not have any concepts of characters..
So there is no such thing as "Sabia" or "Neve" in the tagging, if you want those characters you have to describe them.

I did a few quick tests .. with the following rules:
- No Controlnets (meaning the poses are purely prompt based, each image may look slightly different)
- No image touchups or fixups or seed cherry picking
- No Segmenting (each image will have small variations, like clothing changes or background changes)

Known Issues So Far:
I can already see a problem with my tagging, I completely trashed "ponytail" with "folded ponytail" training. I will need to pick a single word tag that doesn't do that.


The image prompts left to right are:

[Describing Sabia as best I can]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and elf ears]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and cat ears]

The background is just "Sunny Day, Village, Huts, Grass" :LOL:


Feedback appreciated - is the art style over cooked or under cooked?

I will likely need to do another run (or 10.. :cautious:), so if people think the style is wrong / bad - please say so.

- Focus criticism / feedbacl on the art style (both background & characters), the color palette, line work, shading style, etc.
- Ignore inconsistencies in height / clothing / pose. Those are fixed in a different way.
I would say Neve doesn't look fierce enough. Sabia as well, but I feel like with her it's less of a problem but Neve was already highly confident and competent, and much more take-charge and domineering.
 
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DreamingAway

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I would say Neve doesn't look fierce enough. Sabia as well, but I feel like with her it's less of a problem but Neve was already highly confident and competent, and much more take-charge and domineering.

I think that's just me being lazy.
I added "confident, serious expression", is this better or still not hitting home?

If it's still not right can you show me an example?

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Darcel Marvis

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Okay I attempted to train my own "Momo Style" LORA. (Using KOD / NN / Rule34)

It does not have any concepts of characters..
So there is no such thing as "Sabia" or "Neve" in the tagging, if you want those characters you have to describe them.

I did a few quick tests .. with the following rules:
- No Controlnets (meaning the poses are purely prompt based, each image may look slightly different)
- No image touchups or fixups or seed cherry picking
- No Segmenting (each image will have small variations, like clothing changes or background changes)

Known Issues So Far:
I can already see a problem with my tagging, I completely trashed "ponytail" with "folded ponytail" training. I will need to pick a single word tag that doesn't do that.


The image prompts left to right are:

[Describing Sabia as best I can]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and elf ears]
[Describing Neve but with short hair and cat ears]

The background is just "Sunny Day, Village, Huts, Grass" :LOL:


Feedback appreciated - is the art style over cooked or under cooked?

I will likely need to do another run (or 10.. :cautious:), so if people think the style is wrong / bad - please say so.

- Focus criticism / feedbacl on the art style (both background & characters), the color palette, line work, shading style, etc.
- Ignore inconsistencies in height / clothing / pose. Those are fixed in a different way.

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You can also use the gallerys on e-hentai.org for the training of the Lora, you can pretty much find the entire KoD gallery there.
 
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