VN Ren'Py Abandoned Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

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Negativpro0

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Bruh?OhmyGodgivemeauserna said:
theyre gonna come out and say nomo left the project a while back and they've been looking for a new artist or smth
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That is a serious possibility. Back when Sierra left they waited months to announce it, only did so cause people started asking questions. All three of them know how much of a negative impact that had on the game.
If Nomo left the project, either cause of boredom or cause he got a better offer, they would buy as much time as possible before announcing it. They would either look for a replacement or try to keep up the recycling until they can.

In Hindsight, Nomo making reusable CG might be part of this. He could have been planning to leave this project for years. He is only been losing money on this, so he has been a good offer away from leaving forever. Since the other two do not contribute anything valuable, they have no power to make him stay, or change his opinion.

We will see in the next months, but do be aware, if Nomo leaves the project is likely dead, for real.
 
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Negativpro0 said:
That is a serious possibility. Back when Sierra left they waited months to announce it, only did so cause people started asking questions. All three of them know how much of a negative impact that had on the game.
If Nomo left the project, either cause of boredom or cause he got a better offer, they would buy as much time as possible before announcing it. They would either look for a replacement or try to keep up the recycling until they can.

In Hindsight, Nomo making reusable CG might be part of this. He could have been planning to leave this project for years. He is only been losing money on this, so he has been a good offer away from leaving forever. Since the other two do not contribute anything valuable, they have no power to make him stay, or change his opinion.

We will see in the next months, but do be aware, if Nomo leaves the project is likely dead, for real.
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but it was a bait the whole time, because now this forum we w-we walked right into their trap. We made super fappable ai images based on nomo's art. god have mercy on all of us.
 
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Enigmanic said:
Good. Let someone make a better game with AI art. Serves them right.
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Always wanted to see people do that.
1. Many people complained about writing - so we have writers to replace Hreinn's, if they're that confident.
2. We got AI image generation, and people complained about Nomo's art - so we can replace it too.
3. Now we only have to find someone who's willing to work with Hreinn's code. It's Ren'Py, so not very challenging, but still tedious.

This way people will no longer have to wait until new updates, and just do them on their own, with the power of democracy, and no one will ever be unhappy. Not only pirating the game, but annexing stealing freeing it from Hreinn completely.
 
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I thought Nomo was the leader of this project. Why would he leave his own thing?
 
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bitchass92

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Xill said:
I thought Nomo was the leader of this project. Why would he leave his own thing?
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Why did he start? becuase drawing hentai made him money. Why would he leave? Running a project on your own with two dudes that as far as this community can tell are good for nothing is hard especially when you chop that income into 3 and you get most of it from drawing "customs" for hard copers that don't actually care about how great the project was originally they just pay a bit more to goon to their one shot versions of sabia the orc fuck pig slut dumb cow tits human fuck meat sabia slut dumb cum whore.
Do people... do people not read? anything at all?
 
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bitchass92 said:
Why did he start? becuase drawing hentai made him money. Why would he leave? Running a project on your own with two dudes that as far as this community can tell are good for nothing is hard especially when you chop that income into 3 and you get most of it from drawing "customs" for hard copers that don't actually care about how great the project was originally they just pay a bit more to goon to their one shot versions of sabia the orc fuck pig slut dumb cow tits human fuck meat sabia slut dumb cum whore.
Do people... do people not read? anything at all?
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But Hreinn Games is his thing. He could just tell them to leave if they suck at their job.
 
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bitchass92

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Xill said:
But Hreinn Games is his thing. He could just tell them to leave if they suck at their job.
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Being a good artist doesnt mean you have project management skills. Look at "Hreinn" versus anything by Sierra Lee. It was clear who had the ability to make dead lines, stick to them, have a feasible idea of creation and probably bore the brunt of the workload. You can have a skill, you can have three skills. It doesn't mean one of them is management.
 
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bitchass92

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Xill said:
But Hreinn Games is his thing. He could just tell them to leave if they suck at their job.
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Also we have NO clue how they work or operate because another big thing that they've sucked at doing (i started playing this game a little before and after I joined the army so 2018ish) in 6 years is upfront, direct and hands above the board communication. They block critics both justified and otherwise, say nothing, don't keep promises. For all we know Nomo is a sickly individual who's been on the verge of death for 6 years who can barely get out of bed to draw. We don't know. They don't say.
 
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Xill said:
But Hreinn Games is his thing. He could just tell them to leave if they suck at their job.
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It's not that simple. It should be but it isn't. It takes good leadership ability to properly manage a project. Then there's also foolishness and immaturity, the inability to keep your emotions out of important decisions.

For over two years, I and several other supporters told Nomo TIME AND TIME AGAIN that Monsinne's writing was absolutely shit. We repeatedly pleaded with Nomo that NDS was lazy and incompetent at his job. But Nomo refused to replace them because they are friends. Nomo repeatedly and consistently refused to listen as his paying supporters and fans urged him to see that Monsinne and NDS were tanking this game but Nomo refused to see reason.

The game has turned into a total dumpster fire and Nomo has no one to blame but himself.
 
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Xill said:
But Hreinn Games is his thing. He could just tell them to leave if they suck at their job.
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Even if Hreinn is Nomo's thing:
  1. Nomo didn't "fire" his best buddies, NDS and Monsinne for severely underperforming work ethic, more apparent now than a few years back.
  2. Nomo did "fire" the only saving grace, the OG writer, over "creative differences" instead of weighing in on the disagreement and taking the best of both worlds... in some alternate universe.
  3. In favor of "fast updates," which is kinda a stretch, they willingly discard quality for quantity
  4. Lack of communication made the project stay in Abandonment Limbo
  5. Immaturity in handling negative (and perhaps some of them are constructively well-written) feedback doesn't help their dried-up goodwill.
It makes me wonder who owns Hreinn if Sierra is that effective at being a project manager.
 
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Is there an updated Walkthrough? I tried accessing the one on the patreon page but it's blank and there's no info.
 
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