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People reminiscing got me to check again the game's CG (on the Panda) and I realized.... you know, the rot set in early. Far earlier than I expected.

This is of course my opinion, and I'm nothing but a random retard that wasted far too much of his pathetic life on eroge, but it's striking how the decline in art, detail and composition was faster and longer than I expected. Let us take the first year of release, 2017 or so.

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Let's take two random examples, the bar groping scene and the Vehlis elf slave sex scene. They're both detailed (even if nothing beats the very first Tent scenes or the first Neve scene) and the composition is good. We're here for the girls and the detail, and it works well. The elf slave is essential to the scene but the focus is entirely on Vehlis.

Let's skip two years.

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Sabia starts having really weird proportions depending on the perspective, and the Orcs start getting more and more space and assuming weird Liefeldian bodies. Let's not even talk about the lack of finesse and artificial feeling of movement, like Rockgrid's mechanical patting of Sabia's head. Sabia starts having wildly inconsistent breast size.

Let's go a bit further, 2020-21.

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Looks decent, doesn't it? Sabia again has variable breast size but at least she's the focus of the action (and seriously Nomo started drawing so much Orc ass directly in your face and recycling so much art it's insane, also all the characters started sharing body type to simplify art while before Neve, Sabia and Vehlis were clearly different). Check this again, just how big are those orcish hands?

2022, the last year where we got half-assed updates.

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I rest my case. Compare this with the bar groping scene. This is awful. If we engage further, the repeatable scenes are a complete scandal and the top-down scenes a travesty. We get more orc ass than Sabia, everyone is poorly drawn with proportions that now vary not because they're different characters but because Nomo doesn't give a shit anymore.

There's still some decent scenes occasionally, but it's kind of interesting how the decline starts relatively quickly after Sierra goes away. I'm not saying that we should hop on the bandwagon of "Sierra leaving nuked the game" (even if it's true) but something got awry on the art quality fairly soon. All the best KoD art is right at the beginning.

And pardon for the spergin', it's like this is a real forum or something
 

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People reminiscing got me to check again the game's CG (on the Panda) and I realized.... you know, the rot set in early. Far earlier than I expected.

This is of course my opinion, and I'm nothing but a random retard that wasted far too much of his pathetic life on eroge, but it's striking how the decline in art, detail and composition was faster and longer than I expected. Let us take the first year of release, 2017 or so.

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Let's take two random examples, the bar groping scene and the Vehlis elf slave sex scene. They're both detailed (even if nothing beats the very first Tent scenes or the first Neve scene) and the composition is good. We're here for the girls and the detail, and it works well. The elf slave is essential to the scene but the focus is entirely on Vehlis.

Let's skip two years.

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Sabia starts having really weird proportions depending on the perspective, and the Orcs start getting more and more space and assuming weird Liefeldian bodies. Let's not even talk about the lack of finesse and artificial feeling of movement, like Rockgrid's mechanical patting of Sabia's head. Sabia starts having wildly inconsistent breast size.

Let's go a bit further, 2020-21.

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Looks decent, doesn't it? Sabia again has variable breast size but at least she's the focus of the action (and seriously Nomo started drawing so much Orc ass directly in your face and recycling so much art it's insane, also all the characters started sharing body type to simplify art while before Neve, Sabia and Vehlis were clearly different). Check this again, just how big are those orcish hands?

2022, the last year where we got half-assed updates.

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I rest my case. Compare this with the bar groping scene. This is awful. If we engage further, the repeatable scenes are a complete scandal and the top-down scenes a travesty. We get more orc ass than Sabia, everyone is poorly drawn with proportions that now vary not because they're different characters but because Nomo doesn't give a shit anymore.

There's still some decent scenes occasionally, but it's kind of interesting how the decline starts relatively quickly after Sierra goes away. I'm not saying that we should hop on the bandwagon of "Sierra leaving nuked the game" (even if it's true) but something got awry on the art quality fairly soon. All the best KoD art is right at the beginning.

And pardon for the spergin', it's like this is a real forum or something
I really liked the art in noxian nights, and seeing how it has changed over the years fascinates me. It didn't had so much detail back then, but it was better, I don't know how to explain it. Its a shame that RPG maker quality is so ass.
 

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Someone in this thread mentioned that Sierra posted about it (on patreon?) but they never shared details on what she said specifically.

I'd be curious too.

I assume it was either:

A) Creative differences (not liking the story direction, emphasis on certain fetishes, something else[?])
B) Wanting to work on her own stuff instead
C) All of the above
I was a fly on the wall for those convos in Discord and Patreon. It was a number of things.

1 - Creative differences: Nomo and NDS felt that her story lines and world-building were too much. They didn't want to have to do so much work.

2 - Personal tastes:
A: Sierra wanted Sabia to have more opportunities for lesbian romances.
B: Sierra is not a fan of non-con.
She wrote non-con scenes for NN because Nomo and the fans wanted it. But she didn't agree with how much rape and gangbang content Nomo and NDS wanted in KoD.
 
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2 - Personal tastes:
A: Sierra wanted Sabia to have more opportunities for lesbian romances.
B: Sierra is not a fan of non-con.
She wrote non-con scenes for NN because Nomo and the fans wanted it. But she didn't agree with how much rape and gangbang content Nomo and NDS wanted in KoD.
Then she was rite. KoD submax is painfull to read
 
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