AnaLyser

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That is the way Illusion made the game, there is no fix for intentional design.

I didn't say you didn't know what mods are, if I had to guess, the uncensor is not properly set up for anal. Most people who play Illusion games from the original Koikatsu to this one, including the two games and one dedicated scene maker in between, don't care about the games themselves, which is not to say nobody cares, some of us do, but most only care about the studio as if that is the only thing the game offers.

What I meant by related in name only is that they are not simply the same game in a different setting, the underlying code is VERY different between the two games, which is why things have to be tweaked. If the code of each was identical, the mods would work from the start in both games. Illusion made user created assets compatible in one direction, that being Koikatsu to Koikatsu Sunshine, but they didn't make the whole thing compatible, unfortunately, even though they could have due to how close the games are with just a bit of work for the slight art style difference.

It's less that they are lazier and more a combination of two factors. The first is their actual customers, who wanted more customization and gameplay was simply one of the things sacrificed for customization as far as development time. The second is the stigma against them because they are developers of porn games. Japan doesn't exactly look too kindly on porn in general and being a porn game developer is something that gets hit by that stigmatized outlook on porn, which is also what plays into the whole 'must censor genitals' thing that is part of article 175 of the Japanese penal code as revised in 1907. Porn game developers sometimes even hide what they do from their own family until they have enough job experience to move to a normal developer.
I know a lot of people play for the studio (which I do too in part) but it's wrong to assume most people do that, people liking the game but not doing a lot of studio don't really post after a certain time, especially since there's no proper gameplay. People on discord and here are very specialised and a little bored so they're mostly studio people (for my part I play since Sexy Beach 3...).

What I meant by sharing similiraties I meant assets (obviously) but also code. And obviously it's not the same code since it needs tweaking but it's not like a whole different game. Although I don't know myself how much it shares, a modder (that do coding, not just texturing...) told me that it was close enough. It's pretty vague but it means it's not a whole different thing.

So combine 1 & 2 and it was a real possiblity that it was something stupid causing the anal bug but nobody cared about it.

As for porn in Japan the stigma is different than in the West but the fact is it sells, just like porn in the West sells. The whole stigma is not why the game isn't bigger (although it does play in part) It's just that Illusion team is happy with the workload and team size so yes it's not really lazyness.
 

alex2011

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I know a lot of people play for the studio (which I do too in part) but it's wrong to assume most people do that, people liking the game but not doing a lot of studio don't really post after a certain time, especially since there's no proper gameplay. People on discord and here are very specialised and a little bored so they're mostly studio people (for my part I play since Sexy Beach 3...).

What I meant by sharing similiraties I meant assets (obviously) but also code. And obviously it's not the same code since it needs tweaking but it's not like a whole different game. Although I don't know myself how much it shares, a modder (that do coding, not just texturing...) told me that it was close enough. It's pretty vague but it means it's not a whole different thing.

So combine 1 & 2 and it was a real possiblity that it was something stupid causing the anal bug but nobody cared about it.

As for porn in Japan the stigma is different than in the West but the fact is it sells, just like porn in the West sells. The whole stigma is not why the game isn't bigger (although it does play in part) It's just that Illusion team is happy with the workload and team size so yes it's not really lazyness.
There isn't any other thing to assume, that's just the way it is on our side, maybe not on the Japanese side, but on ours for sure. This explains the low demand and subsequent low supply for mods that actually deal with the game. Notice how 99% of the mods are made to work specifically with the studio, there are actually only a few that were specifically intended for the game and the others that do have some function within it simply happen to do something both the game and the studio can do. Then you go on the Discord, which comprises the majority of modders on the English speaking side and the vast majority attitude there is very much in favor of studio over game, they've openly admitted as much.

As for why this attitude of studio over game took hold, you can blame Illusion listening to the Japanese customers, the majority of which wanted a customization focus, as if they were in an echo chamber and not balancing everything with a middle ground approach for that one as the customization focus took away development time for the gameplay.

Unfortunately, the lack of similarities in the code are why things like mods can't be used as they are from the original Koikatsu. There are certainly similarities, ones specifically built in to allow using characters and other things the player creates, but those are few. It was specifically designed not to be a whole different game specifically for that reason, a whole different game would be like trying to bring cards from Artificial Academy 2 into Koikatsu Sunshine, they were never designed to work together, but Koikatsu and Koikatsu Sunshine were even if to a lesser extent than AI Shoujo and Honey Select 2 were.

The stigma is most definitely not the same as the west, I would barely call what the west has a stigma since at least we don't make producers censor it beyond recognition even if some people don't like seeing it. It does sell in both cases, though. The stigma is not the sole reason, but it is part of the issue. The stigma makes people not want to keep working with Illusion once they have enough experience to go mainstream, leading to almost constant rotation of new blood on what could very easily be a per game basis at this point and makes them hide even working for Illusion from their own families to avoid the shame it would supposedly bring. The other reason why the game isn't bigger I already mentioned, they listened to their customers and went all in on the customers' desire for customization, spending way too much time on it. This left too little time to flesh out the game's actual gameplay, the element that makes it a game in the first place. This is a pattern that has been repeated ever since Artificial Academy 2 was fully released with all DLC, the games have slowly been going downhill ever since with less gameplay each time minus the exception of the Honey Select series always having had minimal gameplay by design.
 

AnaLyser

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There isn't any other thing to assume, that's just the way it is on our side, maybe not on the Japanese side, but on ours for sure. This explains the low demand and subsequent low supply for mods that actually deal with the game. Notice how 99% of the mods are made to work specifically with the studio, there are actually only a few that were specifically intended for the game and the others that do have some function within it simply happen to do something both the game and the studio can do. Then you go on the Discord, which comprises the majority of modders on the English speaking side and the vast majority attitude there is very much in favor of studio over game, they've openly admitted as much.

As for why this attitude of studio over game took hold, you can blame Illusion listening to the Japanese customers, the majority of which wanted a customization focus, as if they were in an echo chamber and not balancing everything with a middle ground approach for that one as the customization focus took away development time for the gameplay.

Unfortunately, the lack of similarities in the code are why things like mods can't be used as they are from the original Koikatsu. There are certainly similarities, ones specifically built in to allow using characters and other things the player creates, but those are few. It was specifically designed not to be a whole different game specifically for that reason, a whole different game would be like trying to bring cards from Artificial Academy 2 into Koikatsu Sunshine, they were never designed to work together, but Koikatsu and Koikatsu Sunshine were even if to a lesser extent than AI Shoujo and Honey Select 2 were.

The stigma is most definitely not the same as the west, I would barely call what the west has a stigma since at least we don't make producers censor it beyond recognition even if some people don't like seeing it. It does sell in both cases, though. The stigma is not the sole reason, but it is part of the issue. The stigma makes people not want to keep working with Illusion once they have enough experience to go mainstream, leading to almost constant rotation of new blood on what could very easily be a per game basis at this point and makes them hide even working for Illusion from their own families to avoid the shame it would supposedly bring. The other reason why the game isn't bigger I already mentioned, they listened to their customers and went all in on the customers' desire for customization, spending way too much time on it. This left too little time to flesh out the game's actual gameplay, the element that makes it a game in the first place. This is a pattern that has been repeated ever since Artificial Academy 2 was fully released with all DLC, the games have slowly been going downhill ever since with less gameplay each time minus the exception of the Honey Select series always having had minimal gameplay by design.
Yes modders will mostly do things for studio, I never said the opposite. Why would they do it for a game with virtually no gameplay? I know I wouldn't. Same for all the "veterans" bored of the basic 3d hentai games (and especially illusion games). However if we take ALL the consumers of those games a lot will see the studio as a side thing or at least not just put the game away and they are most likely the majority. It's pretty much the case on the Japanese side but it's most likely the same to our side to a lesser extent. Of course again I assume that since I have no data but it's pretty fair to assume modders and veterans don't make the bulk of players, especially since Illusion made his way in the market of the West.

As for the code maybe you're right and it's actually that much different, I'm not qualified to judge.
 

alex2011

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Yes modders will mostly do things for studio, I never said the opposite. Why would they do it for a game with virtually no gameplay? I know I wouldn't. Same for all the "veterans" bored of the basic 3d hentai games (and especially illusion games). However if we take ALL the consumers of those games a lot will see the studio as a side thing or at least not just put the game away and they are most likely the majority. It's pretty much the case on the Japanese side but it's most likely the same to our side to a lesser extent. Of course again I assume that since I have no data but it's pretty fair to assume modders and veterans don't make the bulk of players, especially since Illusion made his way in the market of the West.

As for the code maybe you're right and it's actually that much different, I'm not qualified to judge.
Yes, and aside from very few specific ones, like Katarsys, who makes KSPlug, that's all they do. Don't get me wrong, it is they're choice, of course, that is not my point. Why would they do it for a game with virtually no gameplay? To fix the lack of gameplay, like what Katarsys did for the original Koikatsu with Kplug. Of course the studio is a side thing, the main attraction to the "consumers" is the customization, I already went over how it was their idea to give Illusion games a heavier focus on customization and that is one of the reasons there isn't as much gameplay. That's why the only thing that is even good is the studio, too heavy focus on customization led to too little gameplay development. Also, on the market of the west part, keep in mind this game is not released officially outside Japan at this time.
 

axbcd

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maybe this is happening due to incompatibility of save data from rx4 to rx5 version.
Has anyone having this problem like me already tried starting a new game?
 

Raraman

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Sheesh, creating proper thicc women in this game is an uphill battle.

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Guys, I have to ask again. Are there any character personalities with self/player naming quirks?
Personality "Friendly" will refer to herself as sister sometimes. Anything else like this?

(Asking for a friend)
 

alex2011

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maybe this is happening due to incompatibility of save data from rx4 to rx5 version.
Has anyone having this problem like me already tried starting a new game?
There shouldn't be save incompatibility, they both use the same game and, if I remember correctly, the same exact version of said game. In 99.9% of releases for Better Repack, it is only a mod update and those don't mess with save compatibility. It sounds like one of your game's base files is bad, which means needing to download the game again if it is.
 

6DarkRaven9

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OK so after figuring everything out....booking the girls....and going out to finally play. I crashed........not sure what to blame. I had all rooms booked. Koikatsu didn't crash if I had a full school.
 
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alex2011

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Does this game need Kobi Software? I try to download from "UploadHaven".
How do i download?
Download each of the parts using your internet browser, then use something like 7zip to extract them. It will extract all of them at once just by starting the first as long as they are in the same place.
 

Dariusex007

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In the ini options there should be a console to activate when you start the game, wait for the game to load and any error messages should be high lighted in red, look in there maybe there is a mod conflict, I can also suggest just download RX5 from screwthisnoise patreon, thats the newest version
I did this yesterday, I downloaded the latest version and the error persists, it's still stuck on the same screen.
Honestly I don't know what else to do, because the old version runs normally and this new version doesn't
As for my PC, buy it a few months ago.
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axbcd

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There shouldn't be save incompatibility, they both use the same game and, if I remember correctly, the same exact version of said game. In 99.9% of releases for Better Repack, it is only a mod update and those don't mess with save compatibility. It sounds like one of your game's base files is bad, which means needing to download the game again if it is.


I downloaded the whole game again twice.. I went to test the save data issue by starting a new game and the game did not crash. I just wanted to know how I'm going to be able to fix this without having to create everything again.
 

Bryanis

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I did this yesterday, I downloaded the latest version and the error persists, it's still stuck on the same screen.
Honestly I don't know what else to do, because the old version runs normally and this new version doesn't
As for my PC, buy it a few months ago.
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If it can't pass the converting card screen it's usually either there a card with incompatible mod, or that the game can't work through the folders / files - meaning they are either passowrd protected or in "read only" mode.
 
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6DarkRaven9

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So.....outside of trying to cream every girl. is there a progression system? I unlocked the empty and pointless beach that's 'dangerous'. But that's it and nothing else is happening in game. Also how do I progress with the native girl? We're besties.
 

alex2011

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I downloaded the whole game again twice.. I went to test the save data issue by starting a new game and the game did not crash. I just wanted to know how I'm going to be able to fix this without having to create everything again.
You may have to wait for a new update, could be a mod screwing things up, but I have no idea where to begin with that and it would be a pretty big issue for the modder not to notice and fix it. IF there is a fix without waiting, I can't figure out what it is since you are the first person I have seen mention this and I haven't had this problem.

So.....outside of trying to cream every girl. is there a progression system? I unlocked the empty and pointless beach that's 'dangerous'. But that's it and nothing else is happening in game. Also how do I progress with the native girl? We're besties.
Still haven't completely figured out the tour guide yet myself, but I can say this is basically like the first Koikatsu on an island and with the new topic system. You use topics and the massage system to increase a girl's affection for you and later her H meter, you eventually get asked by or ask the girl to start dating, you have sex, that's all there is really.
 

axbcd

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You may have to wait for a new update, could be a mod screwing things up, but I have no idea where to begin with that and it would be a pretty big issue for the modder not to notice and fix it. IF there is a fix without waiting, I can't figure out what it is since you are the first person I have seen mention this and I haven't had this problem.


Still haven't completely figured out the tour guide yet myself, but I can say this is basically like the first Koikatsu on an island and with the new topic system. You use topics and the massage system to increase a girl's affection for you and later her H meter, you eventually get asked by or ask the girl to start dating, you have sex, that's all there is really.

Now even if I try to access the default save that comes in betterrepack the game just crashes, a black screen appears and I have to shut down my computer.. for me it's probably some incompatibility with the savedata from the old version. It's not possible that I'm the only one with this problem. The game used to take a while to load before, but at least I could play

edit: right now starting a new game i'm getting this error here: the instruction at 0XXXXXXXXXXXXX referenced memory at 0XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. the memory cannot be written .
I've never had any problems with this kind of game
this error is normally associated by a lack of RAM but my PC has 16GB, more than enough to run this game .
 
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alex2011

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Now even if I try to access the default save that comes in betterrepack the game just crashes, a black screen appears and I have to shut down my computer.. for me it's probably some incompatibility with the savedata from the old version. It's not possible that I'm the only one with this problem. The game used to take a while to load before, but at least I could play

edit: right now starting a new game i'm getting this error here: the instruction at 0XXXXXXXXXXXXX referenced memory at 0XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX. the memory cannot be written .
I've never had any problems with this kind of game
this error is normally associated by a lack of RAM but my PC has 16GB, more than enough to run this game .
This is definitely not save compatibility at this point, that would NOT cause you to have to reboot the entire computer, save compatibility doesn't cause a problem that severe and I would be getting it if that was the case since I have been using the same save since R2 because I didn't want to start over after having to stop when R2 kept crashing on me and I switched to R3, which is what I play now.

You may not be the only one with this problem, but you are, so far, the only one who has reported having this problem.

That error is extremely helpful, it tells me something is using a massive amount of RAM and I bet a mod is what is using that RAM, I just can't think of a mod that uses a whole 16GB of RAM, whatever mod it might be isn't in R3.
 

6DarkRaven9

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I remember in the first game you guys had a plugin to make orgasms quicker so we can get back to the action. Also the same for shutting up the girls so we can just get it on without them talking every time you select a position or pull out or cum or stick it in them.
Is that in this game too? Cause its really needed.
 
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