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Avaron1974

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honestly I wonder if Bison is a burner account for them....its what that kinda dev does...lol
Makes a lot of sense.

"The devs are working on it, I know them personally, you can trust me people who have no idea who I am".

And when that fails miserably....

"Well, they don't give a shit what you say so ner ner".

I mean, thinking about it. I am friends with a few devs on here and even I, the gobshite bitch of F95, would never say shit like that. I would want my friends to do well, not suffer because I have a shitty attitude.

What kind of friend would tell an entire forum of potential customers, as well as those that are parts of large communities on Steam, that the dev doesn't give a shit.

That's the kind of friend that could fuck you over and cost you money.

Ahh, well, they are obviously okay with him making them look like worse devs than people already took them for. At this point all I can say is good luch and we'll see how the "let's see how badly we can fuck up our own business model" goes for them.
 

Aristos

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Bison is no burner account for the devs. He's been around for many years and is close to different devs, including Philly and the devs of this game. He knows the latter in person too, and I've seen him interact with them in this very thread years ago, so unless he has a split personality it wouldn't make any sense.
Now, I'm not defending his penchant for despising this site. As I said, he's been around for too long a time to really think this site doesn't matter shit to minor devs.
 

BisonFan02

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Bison is no burner account for the devs. He's been around for many years and is close to different devs, including Philly and the devs of this game. He knows the latter in person too, and I've seen him interact with them in this very thread years ago, so unless he has a split personality it wouldn't make any sense.
Now, I'm not defending his penchant for despising this site. As I said, he's been around for too long a time to really think this site doesn't matter shit to minor devs.
Shhhhhh! I want everyone's fake internet lesbian to think I'm a burner account. It's fucking hilarious! But yes....ive known this dev well before Thunderline was even a thing.....pretty sure he is still a mod on Philly's discord....actually made the CoBD trailer for him. Xor was also a mod on Palmer's server back in the day....time flies.

This site hurts minor devs.....Philly never takes off without cross promotion from Belle during DA....flat out said it. If a new dev solely relies on F95 for their game's so called marketing and visibility....its dead by 0.3. A dev spending time combing this site is a colossal waste of time and is much better spent on their actual game or patreon...discord...etc. I don't despise the site per say.....pretty much accept it will exist...I just usually get annoyed with the entitlement users have over something that they actively steal. Talking about "work ethic" on a now side project because it doesn't pay is annoying to say the least. Every game thread is full of that bullshit.
 

BisonFan02

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By the way, be sure to read that post as fast as you can. I'm sure a mod will be here any minute now to delete it. LOL
 
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BisonFan02

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only live twice..... err......... only if gets reported.
This might be a first....the post survives! LOL Usually everything I post gets zapped almost immediately....probably have as many moderated/deleted posts as total at this point.
 
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Allenebs

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This site hurts minor devs.....
Says someone who clearly knows nothing about business. I'm sure those devs, as you point out are doing this as a hobby, have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to promote their hobby. And I'm sure every other dev out there trying to make this a real thing wants to cross promote with a dev who isn't in a place to even consider that possibility and will likely quit in a few months.

No, f95 isn't the end all, be all for promotion for devs. It's a fickle bitch. People expect results, even if the only reason you made the progress you did was bc a relative passed and you needed to bury yourself into something. Thing is, if a dev WANTS to try to make it in this specific branch of the industry, this is their first and best stop. You're not going anywhere locking your unknown game in a walled garden, even if the gate allows free entry to everyone. Word of mouth has been and always will be the single best form of promotion. And sites like this is where that begins to take place, even in the AAA space. If you doubt that, look how furious every branch of the entertainment industry is at sites like Reddit, Metacritic, RT and Youtube and ponder why they're so determined to shut down ALL negativity around their products.

The reason most of these devs fail isn't a lack of income or poor quality. I've seen games on here and elsewhere that functioned yet are complete garbage in every other way, and have rabid fans. They aren't fun, they aren't entertaining, they look like melted wax, but ya know what? The dev delivers content on the regular. They fail bc they are even more entitled than the people you are here accusing of stealing. After all, most of them are using free tools, free assets, on hardware/software they had anyway and combining them to make something they know may have no value while putting a price tag on it and demanding money. This is what ALWAYS takes place when a non-essential good is introduced into the market. That product has no value until the consumer decides it does. And for the consumer to decide it has value, you damn well better get it in their hands and keep it in their minds.

It's really simple. Sites like this die, so do these devs games. Established games like BAD will continue to be successful... for a while. Even they will wither and die without open discussion and a push to introduce the game to new consumers. It would be very different if mainstream alternatives weren't utterly biased against anything remotely adult oriented. Yet then I'm sure you'd be arguing that people streaming these games is no better than what this site does bc you don't understand what you're trying to discuss.
 

BisonFan02

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Says someone who clearly knows nothing about business. I'm sure those devs, as you point out are doing this as a hobby, have hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around to promote their hobby. And I'm sure every other dev out there trying to make this a real thing wants to cross promote with a dev who isn't in a place to even consider that possibility and will likely quit in a few months.

No, f95 isn't the end all, be all for promotion for devs. It's a fickle bitch. People expect results, even if the only reason you made the progress you did was bc a relative passed and you needed to bury yourself into something. Thing is, if a dev WANTS to try to make it in this specific branch of the industry, this is their first and best stop. You're not going anywhere locking your unknown game in a walled garden, even if the gate allows free entry to everyone. Word of mouth has been and always will be the single best form of promotion. And sites like this is where that begins to take place, even in the AAA space. If you doubt that, look how furious every branch of the entertainment industry is at sites like Reddit, Metacritic, RT and Youtube and ponder why they're so determined to shut down ALL negativity around their products.

The reason most of these devs fail isn't a lack of income or poor quality. I've seen games on here and elsewhere that functioned yet are complete garbage in every other way, and have rabid fans. They aren't fun, they aren't entertaining, they look like melted wax, but ya know what? The dev delivers content on the regular. They fail bc they are even more entitled than the people you are here accusing of stealing. After all, most of them are using free tools, free assets, on hardware/software they had anyway and combining them to make something they know may have no value while putting a price tag on it and demanding money. This is what ALWAYS takes place when a non-essential good is introduced into the market. That product has no value until the consumer decides it does. And for the consumer to decide it has value, you damn well better get it in their hands and keep it in their minds.

It's really simple. Sites like this die, so do these devs games. Established games like BAD will continue to be successful... for a while. Even they will wither and die without open discussion and a push to introduce the game to new consumers. It would be very different if mainstream alternatives weren't utterly biased against anything remotely adult oriented. Yet then I'm sure you'd be arguing that people streaming these games is no better than what this site does bc you don't understand what you're trying to discuss.
Oh boy....another wall of text from some retard that wants to sound important to a bunch of lemmings on a pirate site.

The dev doesn't give a shit about this site or thread...hell....lock the thread. Nobody fucking cares. Bye Felicia.
 
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