VN Ren'Py Leaving DNA [Ep. 4.3a] [Impious Monk]

[Fendrall]

I also find the Covid excuse very shady. Henry disappeared almost right after meeting MC in the institute. And when MC knocks on his door we can clearly see a totally empty apartment with an undone bed, like if someone had hurried to leave town/state/country.

True, probably because someone peppered his ass

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Errr... No Incest? Ehmm... 'Looks at Chapter 4' Are you sure about that? 'Look at the LIs' I kinda think you might have been a bit hasty with that statement, No Harem, sure that one was confirmed by the Dev, and No Rape? For fuck sake what world do you live in you complain about that not being there? A story doesn't need some extreme fetishes to have sex in it and be viable.

Is that on a specific path? Given the paths setup, do we know if this is just a one-time happy accident or if this is something that will continue? I don't mind spoilers, just spoiler tag it for those who don't want to read about it.

 

[Just Jericho]

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Is that on a specific path? Given the paths setup, do we know if this is just a one-time happy accident or if this is something that will continue? I don't mind spoilers, just spoiler tag it for those who don't want to read about it.

There are perhaps certain scenes that may or may not - in certain interpretations - be considered something resembling incest... but perhaps not... maybe.

 

[asgardtipar2]

The woman killed in the very beginning was that the MC's mother?

how the hell did you get that lmao

 

[mypossiblepast]

If you didn't see any porn scenes then you clearly didn't make the right choices for them dude.

aka bad game design.

 

[Just Jericho]

aka bad game design.

Oh definitely must have been bad game design... Clearly Rockford was supposed to trip and fall on top of Jamie and then they fuck like rabbits. Having dynamic characters that react differently to different choices you make clearly must be a sign of bad game design...

Since you're an expert, how would you have made this VN? I'm sure the developer - as well as the rest of us - could learn a few things from you.

 

[mypossiblepast]

I'm sure the developer - as well as the rest of us - could learn a few things from you.

That is without a question since you think that "+1 / +0" choices builds a dynamic character.
But maybe it's just me, and "stare at her ass / -" is in fact peak writing.

 

[Maviarab]

That is without a question since you think that "+1 / +0" choices builds a dynamic character.
But maybe it's just me, and "stare at her ass / -" is in fact peak writing.

The fact you can't or didn't actually answer his question of how to improve it speaks...volumes.

 

[Tremonia]

The fact you can't or didn't actually answer his question of how to improve it speaks...volumes.

How should they be able to answer? They doesn't even realize that Imp uses both integer variables and boolean variables to create characters. They believes everything runs on the basis of +/-. I'm sure they have to google which type of variable this would be.

 

[Just Jericho]

That is without a question since you think that "+1 / +0" choices builds a dynamic character.
But maybe it's just me, and "stare at her ass / -" is in fact peak writing.

Ah ah ah, Mr. Expert. You're dropping some big criticisms without elaborating. I asked you how you would have made this VN better. If you think it's "bad game design" for the porn scenes to be dependent on your choices, how would you have done it? Explain yourself.

Also fun fact. There isn't a SINGLE time "Stare at her ass" is a choice anywhere in this VN. Have you even played this VN?

 

[mypossiblepast]

Such naivety, kinda cute! You totally got me on those booleans, as if they even were anyhow cleverly implemented instead of being "x_sex = 0/1".

"Stare at her ass"

Have you guys played this game or are you just some AI agents set up to circlejerk? There is literally this option for the detective chick when entering the pighouse.
Ideas? It's for the dev to figure out. But please, don't try to help him, you'll be bad influence.
But I will give you a hint - choice between good and bad option is no choice at all. Might as well make it kinetic.
As always with those types of games, for some reason there's bunch of insecure guys orbiting in here that feel offended that someone dared to criticize their beloved work. Guilty pleasures exists and it's nothing wrong. I liked many bad and unoriginal VN's, but I didn't tried to paint them as complex character driven, branching path works of art. Get a grip folks.

 

[Just Jericho]

Such naivety, kinda cute! You totally got me on those booleans, as if they even were anyhow cleverly implemented instead of being "x_sex = 0/1".

Have you guys played this game or are you just some AI agents set up to circlejerk? There is literally this option for the detective chick when entering the pighouse.
Ideas? It's for the dev to figure out. But please, don't try to help him, you'll be bad influence.
But I will give you a hint - choice between good and bad option is no choice at all. Might as well make it kinetic.

You mean the option for Rockford to flirt with his ex-girlfriend in front of her workplace after they just fucked? That's a little different context than "Stare at her ass", and you clearly misremembered the choice in that scene. There are a couple other choices whether to flirt with an LI in the game too. Are you suggesting that being given choices whether to flirt or not flirt with LI in a porn game is "bad game design" in your opinion?

At any rate, those types of choices hardly make up the majority of the choices in this story. Most of the other choices are moralistic in nature regarding Rockford's professional ideals, how he treats people, or how he reacts to provocation. There are also plenty of choices that aren't overtly sexual/romantic that impact an LI's opinion of Rockford, such as whether or not he likes kids.

So you really aren't characterizing the choices in this VN well at all dude. I suggest you start over and play the game again and think about what you're saying before spouting nonsense, because you're coming off as textbook Dunning-Kruger right now, Mr. Expert.

 

[mypossiblepast]

Are you suggesting that being given choices whether to flirt or not flirt with LI in a porn game is "bad game design?" in your opinion?

In this format? Yes, it is. Because flirting is not labeled as flirting, but disguised as being proactive in investigation or other unrelated to romance activity.
And there's two people thinking so in last page of the comments alone.

 

[Ottoeight]

Personal opinion:

only a moronic MC would choose Emmeline (someone you just met a few weeks ago) over Jamie (the girl who always adored you) and Aghavni (your ex who's waiting for you to come back and finally tell her: ok, let's try again).

Therefore, the heavy blow our MC gets at the end of the chapter is only well deserved.

This game's moral is: you have to pay the price for your shit, you dumbass.


Just my 2 cents, of course.

 

[Znar26]

Congrats on EP4 Impious Monk !!!!!!

 

[John972]

The incest tag really opened the gates to brainrot in this thread, if Monk now creates a fake-harem too, were doomed

If you think the thread contains brainrot now, imagine the hundred extra pages of outrage if and when IM pulls the trigger on the bait & switch with the Ch 4 ending.

 

[Krytax123]

If you think the thread contains brainrot now, imagine the hundred extra pages of outrage if and when IM pulls the trigger on the bait & switch with the Ch 4 ending.

lmao i can already see the bitching and crying and accusations towards him how he was "baiting" or "afraid of patreon" while he stated that he 1) didnt wanted the tag, 2) its not the usual incest game and 3) patreon is already cancelled

mark my words

 

[General1453]

So... Emmeline is the MC's biological sister according to Aghavni? Are getting this update between the MC and Emmeline in the following year?


EDIT : I'm sorry for being ignorant here, because I never played this game when it first came out and I just played yesterday, from the comments I've been seeing did the devs add the 'incest' tag because it was revealed that the MC and Emmeline are siblings?

 

[Elduriel]

So... Emmeline is the MC's biological sister according to Aghavni? Are getting this update between the MC and Emmeline in the following year?

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EDIT : I'm sorry for being ignorant here, because I never played this game when it first came out and I just played yesterday, from the comments I've been seeing did the devs add the 'incest' tag because it was revealed that the MC and Emmeline are siblings?

it's according to DNA evidence. Meaning the the guy is MC's father is confirmed. But what's not confirmed yet 100% is that he is Emmeline's biological father. There was no test run on that yet. So she could be very well be not related to the MC.

 

[MiltonPowers]

So... Emmeline is the MC's biological sister according to Aghavni? Are getting this update between the MC and Emmeline in the following year?

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EDIT : I'm sorry for being ignorant here, because I never played this game when it first came out and I just played yesterday, from the comments I've been seeing did the devs add the 'incest' tag because it was revealed that the MC and Emmeline are siblings?

The Dev didn't add the incest tag, in fact, he requested it NOT be added. The mods did, and yes, because of this scene here.