VN Ren'Py Leaving DNA [Ep. 4.3a] [Impious Monk]

jadepaladin · 2025-02-09T18:31:10+0000

shakey5864 said:
I just hope it won't be anther year 4 a 45 min update

I'd say a year for a VN with a minimum of 5 routes is very acceptable, especially given the quality of the writing here.

shakey5864 · 2025-02-09T18:33:31+0000

Skeltom said:
Well, as demos go it's not bad at all so far. The MC isn't the typical pervy teen stereotype you see in so many other games which is a huge plus.

This is very short as stated and the lack of player agency has me worried right now. If this is the first part of part one is it safe to assume that this will be a very short game overall? Also it says that the one choice is important but the scene plays out the same way regardless it only adds a variable of her or the player being interested. Does something as insignificant as not saying "Hey" to a random girl lock you out of her path indefinitely? If it does I'm not sure how to feel about that.

A few suggestion, I guess. The hard pauses really slow things down with how often they're used. You have to click a lot to keep things moving so maybe a delayed pause would be better, like $ renpy.pause(2) or something rather than a hard. Also is Rockford relevant to the plot? If it isn't it would be very easy to allow the player to set their desired surname for more immersion.

All things considered I'll be keeping my eye on this one.

his mothers name was Rockford so that is the only relevance I see

yossa999 · 2025-02-09T18:36:21+0000

Chillout1984 said:
Chapter 4 isn't that long if you only do that chapter and on 1 route.

For me it took another 6 hours or so for all routes that we currently know of, because I wanted to play the entire game again (because I forgot most of the plot).

It took me ~1:10h -1:20h just for one route from the update. And ~20-30min for the additional route, since I was forwarding some parts. One route of the whole game from the beginning took 3h+.

whatone · 2025-02-09T18:39:57+0000

shakey5864 said:
his mothers name was Rockford so that is the only relevance I see

Dude, you've just replied to a comment from 2.5 years ago! No need to necro it.

shakey5864 · 2025-02-09T18:56:33+0000

Chillout1984 said:
Chapter 4 isn't that long if you only do that chapter and on 1 route.

For me it took another 6 hours or so for all routes that we currently know of, because I wanted to play the entire game again (because I forgot most of the plot).

I got all but 3 achievements I started over and played for 11 hours the real messed up thing is took all romantic possibilities except your half sister or a ugly fat cop or maybe really disturbed gun nut oh yeah forgot the severely handy capped witch I think should be grape anyway you play it

Chillout1984 · 2025-02-09T19:01:46+0000

shakey5864 said:
I got all but 3 achievements I started over and played for 11 hours the real messed up thing is took all romantic possibilities except your half sister or a ugly fat cop or maybe really disturbed gun nut oh yeah forgot the severely handy capped witch I think should be grape anyway you play it

I totally disagree with you, but they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I really hope we will have a route where we can continue having a romantic relationship with Emmeline, but considering it's against the law in California and Rockfort is a man of principles (unless you're going the "being a dick to everyone" route imo), i unfortunately doubt it.

jadepaladin · 2025-02-09T19:09:54+0000

Chillout1984 said:
I totally disagree with you, but they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I really hope we will have a route where we can continue having a romantic relationship with Emmeline, but considering it's against the law in California and Rockfort is a man of principles (unless you're going the "being a dick to everyone" route imo), i unfortunately doubt it.

Take Cassie's offer, become senator, use daddy Carrington's power to change the law, problem solved.

Sold your soul, but problem solved.

Chillout1984 · 2025-02-09T19:12:00+0000

jadepaladin said:
Take Cassie's offer, become senator, use daddy Carrington's power to change the law, problem solved.

Sold your soul, but problem solved.

Fortunately a senator cannot just change laws on his own, and I wonder if daddy Carrington has enough power to change all laws, even the incest law.

jadepaladin · 2025-02-09T19:18:19+0000

Chillout1984 said:
Fortunately a senator cannot just change laws on his own, and I wonder if daddy Carrington has enough power to change all laws, even the incest law.

Normally I'd agree, but with VN logic, I honestly have no idea. It's like you said though, with it being illegal, I don't see Rockford bending on it without an attempt to change the law, that would play into the political backdrop. Since this is the halfway point of the story (at best) I can't see Emmeline being written off as a LI. Daddy Carrington is set up as a major player so I wouldn't be surprised if he can grease the right palms to make changes.

Chillout1984 · 2025-02-09T19:24:52+0000

jadepaladin said:
Normally I'd agree, but with VN logic, I honestly have no idea. It's like you said though, with it being illegal, I don't see Rockford bending on it without an attempt to change the law, that would play into the political backdrop. Since this is the halfway point of the story (at best) I can't see Emmeline being written off as a LI. Daddy Carrington is set up as a major player so I wouldn't be surprised if he can grease the right palms to make changes.

Problem is though that both changing that law and continuing the relationship with Emmeline will almost certainly hurt his relationship with Jamie beyond repair, even on a friendship level. She makes no secret of how much she hates any kind of incest.

shakey5864 · 2025-02-09T19:26:20+0000

whatone said:
Dude, you've just replied to a comment from 2.5 years ago! No need to necro it.

yossa999 said:
It took me ~1:10h -1:20h just for one route from the update. And ~20-30min for the additional route, since I was forwarding some parts. One route of the whole game from the beginning took 3h+.

what is it 37h+ or 3h+ for game but you say 3h for whole game 45m+45m+45m+45m=3h

jadepaladin · 2025-02-09T19:29:28+0000

Chillout1984 said:
Problem is though that both changing that law and continuing the relationship with Emmeline will almost certainly hurt his relationship with Jamie beyond repair, even on a friendship level. She makes no secret of how much she hates any kind of incest.

I understand the challenge to Jamie's friendship. Might push Jamie away permanently to stay at Harvard teaching. It's too soon to tell and IM has a lot of ways this can be spun. It's gonna be a long wait for ep 5.

yossa999 · 2025-02-09T19:57:52+0000

shakey5864 said:
what is it 37h+ or 3h+ for game but you say 3h for whole game 45m+45m+45m+45m=3h

If you mean just one route, then yes. But I play great games like this by playing at least a few routes. For example, in this update I played Em, Malena, and Jamie's routes. I plan to play Aghavni route (for the sake of the completeness) and Rockford, the Titan of Solitude, as well.

sergerserj · 2025-02-09T21:59:44+0000

Daaamn! Plot in this game, so solid that all sex scenes look inappropriate

misfolk · 2025-02-09T22:10:15+0000

sergerserj said:
Daaamn! Plot in this game, so solid that all sex scenes look inappropriate

I must say the scenes in ep.4 were fire. The animations looked so good they sometimes felt like mocap.

Impious Monk · 2025-02-09T22:43:02+0000

misfolk said:
I must say the scenes in ep.4 were fire. The animations looked so good they sometimes felt like mocap.

All credit for the amazing animations goes to my good friend sandem237.

John972 · 2025-02-10T03:01:20+0000

yossa999 said:
If you mean just one route, then yes. But I play great games like this by playing at least a few routes. For example, in this update I played Em, Malena, and Jamie's routes. I plan to play Aghavni route (for the sake of the completeness) and Rockford, the Titan of Solitude, as well.

The Aghavni route is worth it, not least because Rockford addresses his thoughts on hypothetical sibling incest specifically on that route.

John972 · 2025-02-10T04:41:05+0000

jadepaladin said:
Take Cassie's offer, become senator, use daddy Carrington's power to change the law, problem solved.

Sold your soul, but problem solved.

Chicken and egg situation. To change any law, Rockford needs to get elected first. If the opposition digs up this new dirt on Rockford, his campaign is over. The Senate race is in California, not the likes of Alabama or West Virginia, where his i-credentials would be an asset /s

jadepaladin · 2025-02-10T05:01:47+0000

John972 said:
Chicken and egg situation. To change any law, Rockford needs to get elected first. If the opposition digs up this new dirt on Rockford, his campaign is over. The Senate race is in California, not the likes of Alabama or West Virginia, where his i-credentials would be an asset /s

I like the chicken and egg reference.

The idealist in me says there's no way Rockford gets elected once people investigate his background. However, modern politics has taught me that anything goes.

Krytax123 · 2025-02-10T05:54:25+0000

John972 said:
Chicken and egg situation. To change any law, Rockford needs to get elected first. If the opposition digs up this new dirt on Rockford, his campaign is over. The Senate race is in California, not the likes of Alabama or West Virginia, where his i-credentials would be an asset /s

Emmeline furthermore stated to not really be interested in a high life like that.

So when he finally changed the law, the reason for it may have vanished, great opportunity for another midlife crisis!

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