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This message was updated early-mid December
The team has green-lit the project. We'll start development soon™ with plans to ship a tech demo by Christmas. (Development started early November)
We also have PR which will engage with the community on F95 and the original LOK Forums (Our PR team is insane and just want blood, be advised). (Fucking pussy, not willing to talk on the forums)
The team has green-lit the project. We'll start development soon™ with plans to ship a tech demo by Christmas. (Development started early November)
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Certainly hope we get some good shit outta this, as I was really looking forward to the customization parts of the game, and more "fun" times with Cenvir and general corruption.
All the good lucks to ya, and if you get a Subscribestar or Patreon up for it, I'll be interested in supporting if your previews show promise
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will you are do draw new textures for Krystal? like a commander here
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- Jan 29, 2019
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I hope your team understands that you will be working on a game where:
1. Krystal character belongs to Nintendo, company will have a 100% right to shut you down or make you go to court if they ever find out you working on the project. This was the reason why new LoK tries into customisation in order to make sure that Krystal is not Krystal but rather their "DeviantArt OC, don't steal" type.
2. You will be using somebody else's work - story, writing, characters, art e.t.c. You would need to ask Abelius's and Kuja's blessings to work with their stuff, otherwise this would be stealing. Naturally even if they allow to use their work in order to continue, you might end up creating a product that could be creating competition on a limited niche market and when it comes to that even if they were ok with you working on their stuff at first, down the line they could demand you to stop further development because they changed their minds or something.
Basically you will be putting your heads under a double guillotine, praying that none of the blades falls down.
If you have a team that is open to work on such a project and you have programmers and artists why won't you just recreate the project with your own assets to make it 100% legit to start with, while making all of it extremely close to LoK0.8?
Yes, it will take longer, but this would be your game that you wouldn't have to be laying under the knife entire way.
- May 21, 2020
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Just as a reminder, Peach's Untold Tale is still up on Patreon after all these years. I don't think any of the Krystal-related projects ever got taken down, now that I think about it. Still a risk, of course, but I think this one is a safer bet in comparison to the other parody projects.
- Apr 19, 2020
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It's like people going to believe any of their BS at this point of time lmfao!
The whole LoK Team is a bunch of clowns to believe anyone will let slide their stalemate of pushing the game to finally get major content by december hahahahahahaha so damn funny xD
I have my bingo chart ready and it's so tiny you can tell the outcome from pulling the usual BS on their supporters like:
1- Sorry but due intern team decisions we decided to cease all operations related to LoK rebirth, Hope you understand and thanks for your continuous support! sorry no refunds tehehehehe
2- They do a flip and say for the 78546865th time the progress must be delayed for another 8 months with false hopes of their supporters to keep supporting a deadweight cause.
3- Likely they just gonna keep playing this tug-of-war game when they really just post screenshots, videos and renders to call them update progress just to satisfy those who like to see just media rather than expect actual dates of release of such content.
Anyways i could go even further with the list of things they already have done & pulled off, but the point of this game in specific is that it's never likely going to be finished nor even get actual progress because of their shady history of certain individuals that many know about on the LoK Team.
Something that been mentioned over the years that been a fact is ´´LoK games spin-offs or related to the original are just CURSED´´
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Well, no matter what, your project will always be in a scope's target to be one shotted because of that.
I can understand when you work on a game solo or with your buddy and both of you are okay with potential sudden KO, but when you have a team of people that could rely on the project in one way or another - it's just irresponsible towards them.
And in this particular scenario we have this doubled.
Plus Tribe team will be instantly informed and unlike Nintendo they will care the moment they know of this.
Once again, if you have resources to build the game, why not make everything safe and legit right from the start in order to ensure project's independent life cycle up until the end?
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There are a lot of problems, but none of them are "curse", really lol.
Seeing the development personally I assure you, that all of the problems they've been having up until now could've been prevented were they to have adequate game dev management. LoK team had alll the chances to make it work.
This is going to be fun to watch as the drama plays out in the community.
Everyone: keep your expectations low and get your popcorn ready.
Everyone: keep your expectations low and get your popcorn ready.
Idk what they plan on doing, but imo, there is plenty of good art and what they need is an animator for more scenes.
If they decided to chose quantity over quality for the animations (like the old playshapes games), then they could actually make a lot of content really fast. But I don't know what their goal is.
- May 21, 2020
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LoK's many, many derivatives started in the first place because Playshapes was okay with people using his abandoned assets.
Cry about it.
Cry about it.
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Hey, Abelius. How have you been?
If one day you decide to revive LoK:Re, please let us know.
In my eyes you have proved your worth long time ago and I would support such a game from you instantly.
- Jun 13, 2018
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I don't think anyone should be disputing that game development is hard. If they want to give this a shot and see how far they get with it, I'm all for it personally.
If they can somehow make it work, all the better.
I followed your original project from near day one and spent quite a lot of money to make sure that I always got the latest release for whenever you updated it, so I am coming from a bit of a salty position when it comes to seeing this project die. I'm not hoping for gold here, I am hoping that it can at least continue in it's current state in terms of story and characters, rather than whatever that new project Kuja has. Nothing there really gripped me.
Especially them cutting the corruption route from Cenvir, as I found the conversations they had in order to twist Krystals morals was fun.
Kuja throwing a fit about this may happen, and that would obviously be a shame. Throwing a superior product under the bridge for something inferior is always a shame.
Sincerely hope for my own case that this project is restarted and it can continue in some sense.
I am currently subscribed to your Pizza Hot as well, so if two games of equal'ish corruption rates are being developed I won't complain.
- Apr 19, 2020
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I Still feel sad because of what ppl have done to your other game, really did a turnabout of how you interact with other folks and do let me tell you there's a couple of devs threads that haven't got any leaks because the dev and it's team members are active in here sharing WIPs and picarto stream summaries.Well, well... I had all notifications disabled on F95, so I didn't know about what was going on here.
So... let me get this straight: you want to continue my project just with the assets ripped by Asset Studio?
Okay...
Man, if I could get a dollar for each time a fan, troll, outright hater, or even Kuja or Vlad, has thought that what I did was "trivial" and I was being too slow doing it... I'd be a millionaire.
And the cherry on top is that you think Kuja won't have a problem when he finds out, or even won't try suing you because the project is declared abandoned on a pirate site. That's wishful thinking at its best. You clearly don't know him and his gigantic ego. He'd have a fit at somebody using his art regardless if you do this 100% free, seriously.
Have you reached him to talk about it? Obviously not, because you wouldn't be saying "We already have the art". Trust me: you don't.
Now, if you don't have any qualms about using stolen art from another developer, what can I say? Nothing, really. Just be mindful and honest about it. Own your shit.
As for me, I think I also would have the right to be kind of annoyed that you think you can go into my garden and steal some tomatos just because "they're out in the open, behind a low fence, and didn't see any rabid dog guarding them".
But hey, do as you want. Those rigs are from when I was a rookie and most animations were pretty much fixed to fit with each other. Nothing as remotely complex as I'm doing now with Pizza Hot. The layer sorting is going to give you a BIG headache, though. I've also automated that in Unity, fortunately for my sanity.
You know, at the end of the day, it is what you already know and have admitted: you don't have time for this. Fuck, even I, that work FULL-TIME on game development, the actual creator of it, don't have time to take a LOK:Rebirth continuation side project.
Do you think that in the four years since the back-stabbing, I didn't think about it? And now I have a very capable artist that could redraw all the assets! So... why don't I do it and get "rich" again?? Am I stupid or what?!
Simply because it's freaking impossible to have a full-time job (as I have with Pizza Hot), and pretend to take on another full-fledged game project at that level of quality.
Guys... if AT LEAST, you can't even put aside your whole weekends to do this, please don't fool yourselves. People around here will jump at any hopes you give them. They already did with the disastrous reboot. They have read the eloquent words of Vlad on how they'll build a diamond castle, they saw the shiny previews of Kuja, and they ate the epic bullshit from the "professional" animators and coders they've hired with the income I helped to build, on how I did everything wrong and amateurishly.
Four years later...
And now is when you tell me you're different. Come on, go on.
Anyways the damage it's been done more than one time and surely is a drag to deal with it. Or however you may be be feeling about the whole deal
Oh well brother abelius i do wish for your games to go well and maybe a wishful thinking whenever i see your name: This is the guy that will make it's own & better Krystal game xD
But i know that's just never going to happen and i'm ok with that
I don't exactly understand what you are trying to say. I'm sorry to ask, but what exactly bothers you about this? (You did say to ,,own your shit")Well, well... I had all notifications disabled on F95, so I didn't know about what was going on here.
So... let me get this straight: you want to continue my project just with the assets ripped by Asset Studio?
Okay...
Man, if I could get a dollar for each time a fan, troll, outright hater, or even Kuja or Vlad, has thought that what I did was "trivial" and I was being too slow doing it... I'd be a millionaire.
And the cherry on top is that you think Kuja won't have a problem when he finds out, or even won't try suing you because the project is declared abandoned on a pirate site. That's wishful thinking at its best. You clearly don't know him and his gigantic ego. He'd have a fit at somebody using his art regardless if you do this 100% free, seriously.
Have you reached him to talk about it? Obviously not, because you wouldn't be saying "We already have the art". Trust me: you don't.
Now, if you don't have any qualms about using stolen art from another developer, what can I say? Nothing, really. Just be mindful and honest about it. Own your shit.
As for me, I think I also would have the right to be kind of annoyed that you think you can go into my garden and steal some tomatos just because "they're out in the open, behind a low fence, and didn't see any rabid dog guarding them".
But hey, do as you want. Those rigs are from when I was a rookie and most animations were pretty much fixed to fit with each other. Nothing as remotely complex as I'm doing now with Pizza Hot. The layer sorting is going to give you a BIG headache, though. I've also automated that in Unity, fortunately for my sanity.
You know, at the end of the day, it is what you already know and have admitted: you don't have time for this. Fuck, even I, that work FULL-TIME on game development, the actual creator of it, don't have time to take a LOK:Rebirth continuation side project.
Do you think that in the four years since the back-stabbing, I didn't think about it? And now I have a very capable artist that could redraw all the assets! So... why don't I do it and get "rich" again?? Am I stupid or what?!
Simply because it's freaking impossible to have a full-time job (as I have with Pizza Hot), and pretend to take on another full-fledged game project at that level of quality.
Guys... if AT LEAST, you can't even put aside your whole weekends to do this, please don't fool yourselves. People around here will jump at any hopes you give them. They already did with the disastrous reboot. They have read the eloquent words of Vlad on how they'll build a diamond castle, they saw the shiny previews of Kuja, and they ate the epic bullshit from the "professional" animators and coders they've hired with the income I helped to build, on how I did everything wrong and amateurishly.
Four years later...
And now is when you tell me you're different. Come on, go on.
The reason I don't really want to write guesses for that is because I think it would end up looking too confrontational, I apologize if this comes off that way.
Anyways, you said so yourself: The project has been abandoned for 4 years. I say they should try their hands at it. Worst case it ends up abandoned (or taken down). I think open source is a good idea at this point (or rather, the only possible idea), especially since it can potentially address most of what you wrote in your last few paragraphs.
I think you are better off not checking this thread at all, to be honest. I thought you didn't want anything to do with LoK after what happened (understandably).
Also, and this is a side note, not necessarily aimed at anyone: I get the legal arguments and such, but this is a pirate forum. There are worse violations of copyright here, than animating with ripped (and abandoned) assets.