arfux

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i disagree on some aspects (like RPGM not being suited for big adventure stories... it's literally what it was made for), but overall i share some of your frustrations:
This game has suffered a lot due to gabe wanting to preserve things from the previous ones without doing much with said aspects or even making it so preserving those is more annoying than anything:

-gabe wants to narrate a massive big character-based story, that is fair, she even gave us a character with a defined personality other than "look at me, i am a pervert"... at least that's what i think she was trying, because while this is fine and good, gabe does not know what the main character is supposed to be like because she wanted to keep the "hero/renagade" system, so some lines of dialogue from some scene completely contradict the image of what you are playing as.

You want to play a renegade asshole? then why would you suddenly care about what happens to people you don't know? what's up with MC constantly comforting others, helping out or being tactful? why can't i keep being the asshole i was choosing to play as?

You want to play as a noble hero (as I do)? then what's up with your character being a vengeful asshole sometimes? why is he sometimes so much of a pervert to the point that he endangers some missions and his friends? why doesn't he help out more to people being sexually abused? why can't i keep being the savior i was choosing to play as?

this ends up in the character being inconsistent no matter how you choose to play him: the renegade path feels too much like a hero, the hero path feels too much like an asshole.

And this is a problem, because the game want to keep the illusion of you making the character but also that the character has a clear personality... i do not care which one it is, both can be fun, but you cannot have both. I understand that Gabe wanted to keep the "you choose your morality" from the first game, but damn, make it have some real repercussions in the overall story or don't do it at all, in LOQO1 the game branched into very different outcomes depending on what you chose.
Here? it's the same story, not only that, Gabe basically punishes the players who want to play a noble hero, ALL the choices that actually result in a erotic scene are from the renegade path, (grabbing on laquidia's breasts, allowing her to get raped...). Why aren't there any scenes that are an exclusive result from the heroic path? But that's not all, because the game seems to treat the storyline as if you are following a noble paladin... so the ones that want to play as a hero don't get the scenes but the one that don't want to play as a hero are stuck with a storyline following a hero they don't enjoy nor wanted to play as.

If you want to make the character a bit of an asshole fine by me, no prob, LOQO2s protag was basically that, an slightly emo asshole, but make it the default, don't simply put a choice on it that boils down to "you want to be the hero or actually get some erotic scenes? your choice, no matter tho, in the story you'll just be a hero".
If i had to give a recommendation for future games: ditch the whole "hero/renagade" aspect and just tell the story with a consistent character.

I feel like all 3 games had a simp good boy MC (except 1st games evil path) copypaste, and having a game with a protag which is a dick who exploits the girls from loqo games is more interesting
 
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yancondary

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I feel like all 3 games had a simp good boy MC (except 1st games evil path) copypaste, and having a game with a protag which is a dick who exploits the girls from loqo games is more interesting
Same. Again, that's why my favorite part of Origins (except it gets no actual drawn scenes, damn) is taking Laquadia as your sex slave in Warrengard, because she's been an evil bitch and you can pay her back. Same as the Lynevere scene. Backstabbing the good guys to become emperor? Hell yeah. Pity it's probably gonna lead nowhere.
 

arfux

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Same. Again, that's why my favorite part of Origins (except it gets no actual drawn scenes, damn) is taking Laquadia as your sex slave in Warrengard, because she's been an evil bitch and you can pay her back. Same as the Lynevere scene. Backstabbing the good guys to become emperor? Hell yeah. Pity it's probably gonna lead nowhere.
Well, seeing as you dont need to be einstein to write stories about the royal 3, and coding isnt an issue, all thats blocking us from making a game that people like here is art/ comissions money for it lol
 
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J0eSchm0e@

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So, which versions of the protagonists of 2 and Origin did you guys go with?

Personally, I went with the red-haired guy and the wolf guy respectively. The former because he was the only one of 2's options that looked like an adult, and the latter because he was, imo, the best looking out of all the options in Origin.
 

Darkman27

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Can someone tell me how to use the Quill of Choice? (the one which can help to change our race in hall of memories)
Or is it not yet implemented? Cause i am not getting the choice to change
 

arfux

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Dec 22, 2018
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So, which versions of the protagonists of 2 and Origin did you guys go with?

Personally, I went with the red-haired guy and the wolf guy respectively. The former because he was the only one of 2's options that looked like an adult, and the latter because he was, imo, the best looking out of all the options in Origin.
First options, because i dont give a damn about the MC whos really just meant to be your self insert/way for you to interact with the world and not a real character lol. Bit like freeman in half life
 
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Ragingrager

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I heard people complain about too much CG with monsters, animals and general insanity rather than people/MC, and aforementioned 'devs fetishes', so I'm asking what people would like to see in a potential fangame more of, and less of, relative to the original games
I'd like it to be a proper harem game, with it focused entirely on the mc banging the girls. Instead of what we get in these game, which everyone fucks the girls before the main character and often he doesn't fuck them at all.
 
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yancondary

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Well, seeing as you dont need to be einstein to write stories about the royal 3, and coding isnt an issue, all thats blocking us from making a game that people like here is art/ comissions money for it lol
I do wonder if ren'py would be a good base to build a spinoff on.
 

arfux

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I do wonder if ren'py would be a good base to build a spinoff on.
I'm experimenting with a python rogulike engine, as having the game this way enables interesting ideas, like procedurally generating stuff, but yes, ren'py would definitely be good in my opinion as well. More text, more porn, more art and less RPG grind
 

yancondary

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I'm experimenting with a python rogulike engine, as having the game this way enables interesting ideas, like procedurally generating stuff, but yes, ren'py would definitely be good in my opinion as well. More text, more porn, more art and less RPG grind
Yeah, exactly. That's what the series really needs - more text, more choices, more scenes and less grind. RPGmaker is a big part of the problem.

Well, more accurately how the developer uses it is. If you play something like Grolokk which is also on RPGM, it plays much better than LOQO which just lacks so many quality of life features. You can't skip dialogue, saving is limited, you have to play with both hands (this is a porn game, you think it'd be obvious), there is no frustrating grind artificially extending the game's length.
 

Madpanda

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Hey fellow gamers, can I play this game via jioplay I mean I tried it and everything works fine but whenever starting the game it forced close itself so I was thinking what could be the problem and how can it be solved if possible. Thank you whoever answers this :)
 

JL5

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I heard people complain about too much CG with monsters, animals and general insanity rather than people/MC, and aforementioned 'devs fetishes', so I'm asking what people would like to see in a potential fangame more of, and less of, relative to the original games
I'd be down, probably the biggest part that weirded me out was our own dog being turned into a furry girl that sucks your dick. I dont wanna fuck my dog I wanna give it headpats and belly rubs damnit :KEK:
 
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aleyugioh

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In the castle warrengard in the tavern wench challenge, only participate Gabrielle or Bal'Rana? Or Sunny Sue Ellen and Layla the Mare can participate?
 

Lindelbaum

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I've encountered an issue where Naz'raala has Opala's name and moveset. When she first joined the party she also level 10 and had a sprite and CG of Mother Farah in combat clothing, don't know if I can replicate it
 
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