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dude
what i want to know is why the game is not working,
but this threads just become Light Novel Reply wars that i bother to read out of nowhere.
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Fortunately I don't think the game would have gotten where it is as quickly if he didn't actually enjoy working on it. And there's not much money to take and run with, TBH
Man I have "high functioning" autism, and it doesn't impair your ability to look at your goals (your game not being pirated), look at what other people are doing to achieve those goals (not being a raging dickhead to your patrons far before any of this started), and apply that to your own life. The fact that Selly is the only dev with a game on this site repeatedly shooting himself in both feet by using brute force tactics, inserting personal grievances into the game, and continuing to stoke the flames of resentment on both sides points to much darker tendencies.
Maybe at one point the dark triad shit will be kept in the game where it belongs, or maybe this was all just a waste of time. Only time will tell.
Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO
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This update contains some DRM shit bro, if you have pirated care packages on your game, it will delete your saves and script
Read later pages to find the save files or go to the first page for how to disable DRM
Next one that's doable is shop.selebus.com I think. He's using shopify for that.Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO
Narcissistic personality disorder seems much more fitting, but obviously very difficult to make an actual psychiatric diagnosis without examining the patient myself.
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Gonna be honest here, this was my conclusion long before anything happened, and I never even meant it on a derogatory way.
Him being difficult is a personality issue, not a 'tism issue.
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yeah I guess you are right, that assessment probably isn't fair to people with autism, Work with someone with it and they are brilliant but they periodically have tantrums that make it near impossible to be around them.Fortunately I don't think the game would have gotten where it is as quickly if he didn't actually enjoy working on it. And there's not much money to take and run with, TBH
Man I have "high functioning" autism, and it doesn't impair your ability to look at your goals (your game not being pirated), look at what other people are doing to achieve those goals (not being a raging dickhead to your patrons far before any of this started), and apply that to your own life. The fact that Selly is the only dev with a game on this site repeatedly shooting himself in both feet by using brute force tactics, inserting personal grievances into the game, and continuing to stoke the flames of resentment on both sides points to much darker tendencies.
Maybe at one point the dark triad shit will be kept in the game where it belongs, or maybe this was all just a waste of time. Only time will tell.
Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO
as for taking the money and running I meant using it as an excuse not to finish it after promising.
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Sounds like you guys got schwacked by the DRM that deletes your saves and the game's script.rpy file if you have pirated care packages installed. The OP has a link to a post with replacements for your saves and the game files that were deleted.
Made a little change to the cheat mod. Original mod let you change the lust and love values of all the girls at once, that functionality is still there if you use setLoveAndLust(value) and i added another function that lets you set love and lust values of the individual girls separately. Pretty easy to use, func is setValue(value) and itl ask you what you wanna change just enter the girls name and then lust or love to change either lust or love eg ami_lust or ami_love. Let me know if there are any problems.
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My own bloodlust is sated with taking down the gumroad as a response to the DRM, given it was just for the loli shit anyway. I'll help out if it escalates to doing more than it currently does, though.
I can see why you'd come to the earlier conclusion. Shit's tough. Of course I don't know how it is for other people, but from my experience the tantrums sound more like a result of it being easy to get depressed when you have the innate social skills of a wasp at a picnic.
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If you wanted to spend some more time on this, I think it would be better if the mod only affected the values of the girls that were unlocked in the story. I used it then rolled back the changes when I saw that it affected everyone's in Chapter 1.
Yeah the original cheat mod changes all girls values which is why i added the second function that changes specific girls values so you can change whatever you want to change instead of all girls. use setValue(value) instead of setLoveAndLust(value).
i already downloaded your files
but looks like my brain too dumb to understand how's that thing work for Android one.
I've been thinking about how to respond and during that time you seem to have done nothing but damage your own arguments.Characterizing a group of people agreeing, discussing, and laughing at each other's comments as "jerking each other off while mocking someone" when it involves a piece of "literature" as bizarre as this one that's headed by such a confrontational (and mockable) developer is really sad for you, man. Just like the other commenter, for the most part you're confusing boredom with emotional investment, even with posts as long as this one.
I'll give you two other examples of similar fandoms: Kingkiller Chronicle, whose fans talk about how the author seems more interested in doing podcasts and DnD shows than writing, and how he stiffed them out of publicly releasing a chapter of the next book that he promised as a charity goal. Or A Song of Ice and Fire fans who talk about how GRRM took time away for Elden Ring and everything else - they gave him so much shit for posting about watching the Super Bowl one time "instead of writing" that other authors stood up for him.
In those cases, people are mad about having to wait a few years to drop $10 on another book - they're not people who've paid them $5+/month for any period of time. I don't think everyone is entitled to an opinion on every topic, but I paid $70 to have one about this game, and you can't go a single page in this thread without hitting another former supporter. So if you think this community is toxic relative to virtually any other fandom, and you refuse to characterize the Discord with the same words when they mock us and "jerk each other off" with an even better reaction culture, you're being completely unreasonable, especially considering the dev in question has directly attacked the staff, the membership, and this website itself on more than one occasion now for ridiculously overblown reasons and has plans to continue.
But no, you've decided that we're all the bad guys because as a group, of course we naturally adopt the views of the most extreme members, and we all talk about literally wanting to kick him off Subscribestar and effectively end development of the game. And I suppose that posts like this one with virtually nonexistent emotional undertones are just as "childish, maniacal, and narcissistic" to you as the barely coherent ramblings he's posted.
And yeah, I responded to a sentence with an essay. It's fun, and since you made it this far, maybe it has value after all
Firstly, you can leave that cheap "haha im doing this for fun! im not emotionally invested! I'm just killing my boredom!" excuse at the door, I'm certainly not buying it and I'd wager there's plenty of people who also don't buy that, you really expect me to believe that when your latest posts are basically just you jerking yourself off over getting the gumroad and talking about your next dastardly plan, do as much mental gymnastics as you want but it's very clear you ARE emotionally invested into this, heck you even have clear motive to get so invested in this.
Your next point, yes you did contribute $70 towards this game good on you and for a time I'm sure your opinion genuinely mattered until you burnt all your goodwill and got yourself banned from the discord, now you spend your days here talking nonsense about a developer you hate all the while playing the game still.
Now I'm willing to take some responsibility for this next part I'm going to address, about "jerking each other off" perhaps I could have made who I was talking about more clear or perhaps you purposely misinterpreted my post on purpose, either way let's get that cleared up, no I don't think the whole community here is bad, I never did, that comment was always about a particular group of regulars here who seem to spend most of their time here mocking Sel and spying on the Discord and sometimes even making plans to mess with the discord community but hey clearly they're not emotionally invested, not at all.
Now about Sel himself, yes perhaps some of his actions were wrong, but his most recent actions, as questionable as they are, were done to protect his product, can't fault him for that, it would be nice if Sel ignored this place completely but it seems some of you enjoy these little spats more than you seem to enjoy seeing this game continued.
So moving on to literally any other topic: any speculation on what the future dark route might look like gameplay-wise? Will it just be a really long event chain? Is Akira going to keep visiting dorms while a bunch of murder and cult nonsense happens around him? do we genre shift into survival horror puzzle shooter? Thoughts?
It's just bad design, to make integral things skippable is to invite people to skip, which will cause important things to be missed. In the case of this game, that's not what happened, they were designed as skippable side content as stated by Sel while he was here. It isn't that he doesn't want to be associated with nukige, nukige is just not the kind of game he is trying to make in this case. If it was, the story would not hold priority to the degree that it does and we would already have a lot more of the cast with scenes.
Notice he never used intimacy in that sentence. Intimacy and sex are not inherently the same thing. You can attach all the caps you want, but I am going off of things he has said here. He is known to mess around and say things that aren't meant to be serious on Discord, something he didn't do that much here, so I cannot take what he is saying there seriously outside of announcements or delivery of subscriber perks.
Enabling skip unseen is an often overlooked feature inherent to Renpy, skipping the lust events was enabled by design choice, it is not a default capability like skip unseen. If he had not made them skippable, not only would the player have no option to, they would be forced to see the events if they continue playing. I actually did suggest disabling the inherent Renpy skip option entirely when the 'not paying attention' thing started coming up.
Exactly, this is why the porn is not integral and never was.
Even a buffet has days when it has a lack of supply that forces them to not allow every option they normally would.
So the people who literally announced leaking out of spite are using it as an excuse? That doesn't make sense, especially in the heat of this intercommunity spat where figurative punches have been thrown on at least one occasion.
Fortunately I don't think the game would have gotten where it is as quickly if he didn't actually enjoy working on it. And there's not much money to take and run with, TBH
Man I have "high functioning" autism, and it doesn't impair your ability to look at your goals (your game not being pirated), look at what other people are doing to achieve those goals (not being a raging dickhead to your patrons far before any of this started), and apply that to your own life. The fact that Selly is the only dev with a game on this site repeatedly shooting himself in both feet by using brute force tactics, inserting personal grievances into the game, and continuing to stoke the flames of resentment on both sides points to much darker tendencies.
Maybe at one point the dark triad shit will be kept in the game where it belongs, or maybe this was all just a waste of time. Only time will tell.
Ayyy, looks like we got it taken down. RIPBOZO
A shame if true, as far as I am aware as I can't see what is available without being a subscriber, that was the only avenue for officially getting the packages without subscribing. If true, this has broadcasted to Sel a clear intent to not even consider support, which could very easily escalate the issue further (as if that wasn't going to happen anyway).
You do realize they are extremely likely to consider these an act of war that is basically guaranteed to start yet another action against the thread. I won't be part of it, but there are many others I cannot say would do the same and I will do nothing to try and stop them, as if I could even hope to calm them. This supposed DRM move was only a taste at best, I just hope those involved never use their full capability.
Yeah, the Gumroad takedown seems to be saying otherwise to several of their arguments. If it was just boredom, the Gumroad would still be active because nobody would have acted against any official channel of distribution for the game or related contents. Even if Sel did something bad, doing something bad back, especially that which goes after his income, is Sel level at best. Regardless of what goes on because of the Discord side of this spat, two wrongs never make a right.
The Gumroad is an example of why Sel can't just ignore this place.
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If he's emotionally invested over a game banning him from discord after putting in 70 bucks, at least he has a reason to do it.
You're invested in some internet stranger. Honestly, this is cringe.
About his "goodwill" being burnt, that really depends on why he was banned.
Even if he broke the community rules, you're not seriously going to say both the rules or the mods are perfect and always in the right, no?
That's some serious bot mentality that's precisely being mocked, justifiably so.
For example, if all he did was say that targetting piracy instead of working in the game is a waste of time, some fanboys/mods/Sel himself could've dismissedly told him to STFU and probalby virtue-signal in the process, because they would never ever pirate a game, or use assets from one to profit, right?
And because they decided to escalate it, they whine over the now banned guy being a big meanie.
Don't know this guy personally or anything, but tell me with a hand in your blood-pumping organ that this isn't a possible scenario?
And you keep bringing up "he's only protecting his product" but none of these tactics work, they at most earn hostility, so he's being counter-productive, and not really "protecting" anything.
He escalated it, and now lost Gumroad or whatever tf that is.
Next he may lose his main page.
And so on.
You want the game continued? Tell Sel to focus on the game instead.
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Again, there are sex scenes that aren't skippable in the game. You're not even addressing arguments anymore.
You completely missed the mark on my nukige comparison.
Both F/SN and literally any Miel game are eroges, but one's a nukige.
Pretentious authors like to refus to use the "Porn game" label, which is basically "eroge", because we have no "nukige" label.
Hence I kinda asked if we called this "erotic game" would do.
Your argument about Gumroad being taken down isn't logical at all.
Let's say Sel goes all the way to erase f95 from the face of the internet: People will just keep pirating his game in another site, just like how he moved from Patreon to Suscribestar, and the people there will be just as angry at this whole "DRM" bs, especially the moment Sel escalates it, again.
Again, Sel has his livelihood to lose, his enemies have some forum to lose.
Take the L and not escalating the issue's the best course.
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The mods and rules aren't always perfect, but in this instance this guy was a total muppet.
The only cringe thing about this situation is how people here are going to great lengths to screw themselves.
You talk about his tactics earning hostility, fine, that's to be expected considering what this place is, but you must also consider the hostility started here and that started when updates got leaked here within hours and the same usual crowd had their fun enjoying the update early before they should have, fine, Sel got pissed about this and after a few back and fourth shit flinging Sel relented but he still wanted to give his subscribers something exclusive so along came the care packages annnnnnnd they're leaked, once again the usual crowd have their fun giggling.
It's impossible now more than ever for Sel to ignore this place, gumroad getting bombed made that clear, nobody is getting what they want here.
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Watching someone shoot themselves in the foot to death while his fans cheer it on is entertaining in its own right. Worst case for me the game I barely care about goes away.
The more Sel wants to keep pushing the war, the more it will blow up in his face. Mostly because he’s built his house on a foundation of sand composed of pirated material and loli, two things that most reputable businesses desperately try to avoid. It just makes kicking over his castle hilariously easy.
Fans seem to think it takes really caring about this game to want to see the drama… when all it takes is enjoying watching a couple Karen’s scream into the void and metaphorically tell cops “you can’t arrest me!” While they get arrested.
The more Sel wants to keep pushing the war, the more it will blow up in his face. Mostly because he’s built his house on a foundation of sand composed of pirated material and loli, two things that most reputable businesses desperately try to avoid. It just makes kicking over his castle hilariously easy.
Fans seem to think it takes really caring about this game to want to see the drama… when all it takes is enjoying watching a couple Karen’s scream into the void and metaphorically tell cops “you can’t arrest me!” While they get arrested.