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Install URM; it will give you a heads up whenever you're upon a flag that is about to branch the subsequent conversation. You will be able to easily view different paths in replay from the same save, with a few exceptions like Disappointing Everyone and Getting Comfortable.
Otoha: It was recently shown that Nodoka knows that Otoha knows who the Girl Who Cannot Breathe (aka Sekai and Ami's mom) is:Could you elaborate a little more on the Otoha and Ami stuff, and her connection to Sekai? I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, I felt kinda angry Maya finally playing the violin happened with Otoha of all people, that to me just feels like a random character overall, but didn't feel much about it either. Any explanations are welcomed.
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So I'd like to hear more about Niki too, since I'm not sure what to make of her.
Overall: The Nakayamas are basically family. Niki is like a younger big sister, and Noriko a little sister. Niki is also his childhood best friend who he used to watch anime and go play in the woods with.Basically the timeline seems to be:
This is what I get from the 'What Could Have Been', and 'What Is' Chapter 2 Main Events, and Noriko's 'Loxosceles Reclusa' Chapter 2 Event.
- Sensei becomes a Tutor
- Niki mentions it to her family (currently dating)
- Noriko gets tutored and develops a crush (she's implied to be 6)
- Accident happens
- Sensei stops coming around
- Seemingly soon after, tutors again, letting Noriko back into his life but not Niki (ghosts her)
- Short time later (now revealed to be within months), Maya shows up.
- Years later, Sensei and Maya disappear (almost 5 years ago)
- Noriko begins her search
- Finds Sensei after seeing him out of a bus window. It's a thursday. Something happens. He's gone again. (Almost 3 years ago)
- Noriko continues search.
- School gets swallowed and she ends up in Wakana's class. (This year)
- Wakana tries to get rid of her, Noriko reunites with Sensei, and Maya, who calls her a cunt.
I see, well, that helps with Niki - but if all about her is indeed true, she's gonna be torn apart when the truth comes out. There are shattering revelations about what has controlled her life since forever that she has no idea about. That, or she'll soldier on regardless, and if so, more respect for her. She already said that she's too deep to have any chance of going back now, regardless of what happens.Otoha: It was recently shown that Nodoka knows that Otoha knows who the Girl Who Cannot Breathe (Aka Sekai and Ami's mom) is:Otoha however is apparently trying to hide this.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Otoha also seems to see Sensei as a little brother, while he was Sekai's little brother in law. Both Sekai and Otoha also seem to be shotacons, and shitty when it comes to love. There's something strange going on here, but it's not clear what or why.
Niki and Noriko grew up with Sensei. They were next door neighbors and he was basically a part of their family long before he dated Niki, and since he was "with" Sekai at least:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
When Sensei was around 18 and Niki 16, they dated for 5 years, then the accident happened, Sensei ghosted her, and after 8 years they reunited.
Some stuff on Noriko:
Overall: The Nakayamas are basically family. Niki is like a younger bigger sister and Noriko a little sister. Niki is also his childhood best friend who he used to watch anime and go play in the woods with.
Sensei has tried to hide things from Niki mostly because he cares about her and doesn't want her to see how he really is. He doesn't feel like he deserves her. Niki is basically everything that is good for him. Nodoka is the opposite. She makes him feel numb. Niki makes him want to be better. They are basically the Dark side (Nodoka) vs the Light side (Niki) imo. Nodoka wants him to accept his horribleness. Niki wants him to grow up.
Since i started playing LiL and got a little corner at this thread i try to see all the posts since i find interesting what people think about some things (sometimes i skip the biblical post cause it would consume a lot of time and the catch up would increase at some level that i could not really catch up xd)FireCazador i always enjoy your little journeys through the thread as you catch up to the current time through many pages of old comments, your reactions are like little milestones on your journey. You had a lot to catch up on this time around, i was actually surprised just how far back your first milestone was.
Random cringe theory:
What if Himawari is one of the girls in main cast? Like, maybe Otoha is her. Himawari can easily change her appearance and pretend to be someone else. Also, Nodoka saw a blue-eyed girl for some reason, but why did Nodoka see her? Maybe because her roommate IS actually a blue-eyed girl? This could also explain why Otoha knows about Sekai and tries to keep that secret. Plus, if we think about the theory that Himawari is Ayane's daughter, then it could explain why... Nah, that's all for today.
You know, possibly adding Sekai and Himawari in the side cast is quite possible. After all, we still have 5 more free places there...LoveBlueHairedGirl’s Himawari theory got me thinking up cracked potential theories of my own… and- okay so how about this?
Y’know how resets are able to mess with everyone’s perception of time and reality except for the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad? And also how reality can essentially be… rewritten entirely almost? (Examples: Ami getting crucified in Reset 6 but being alive again once the reset was initiated by Big Boy, Chinami coming down with a serious illness but being healthy again post reset, and of course we know of the many times Akira’s cognition has been rewritten, and now more recently Maya’s.)
Anyway, my point is: What if Sekai found a way to rewrite existence from beyond the grave? What if she’s able to return to life somehow?
We’re being led to believe Nao-chan was the last character added to the game, but… is it 100% definitely without a doubt confirmed? Or is Selebus perhaps hiding a sneaky little twist up his sleeve?
Just think about it. Sekai has appeared on the roof at the end of one of the resets before; the fifth one I believe. And Sekai is already possessing Kaori for a fact… why? To try and cling onto life in some form, obviously. Kaori’s recent events touch on the idea of rewriting history as well. It’s an interesting thought.
Imagine we go through a reset event, then once it’s initiated and Akira goes home: bam! Sitting right there on his couch.
“Hello, Aki-kun~… Did you miss me?”
And the sixteenth side character is added to the menu after the twist of all twists and a taunting message by the narrator.
“Oh, did I say Nao-chan was last? You really shouldn’t believe everything you hear, you know.”
Aw well. Realistic or not, it’s fun to imagine the possibilities.
You're not alone, I had mentioned this previously and most of us agree. I just don't vibe with this whole Maya thing and it should've been developed more.Okay. So this arc with lost Maya is lost on me. I just don't see their relationship as developed to such an extent. Like story doesn't convey that "love" towards Maya-prime as much as Sensei keep blabbering about losing her. And yes, most of it was never shown due to memory issues, but it just doesn't click. And that makes this whole trauma make no sense for my limited brain.
On the other side through the whole story I can only see Sensei loving Sekai. Definitely with some unconventional crooked love, but still. And last Touka event adds to it.
Niki doesn't even count, she just pushed him into relationship and he's too much of a pussy to say no while never caring about her at all.
On the unrelated note, I'm pretty sure everybody's calling him Akira all the time and just roll their eyes when he bust his move "Call me Akira now".
I think it's possible given that we're heading to a dark route. But I don't think it's likely that she'd exist by herself in a normal cycle, or that she'd get an ending. If Sekai managed to simply will herself into existence (real existence), then a LOT of characters would more or less lose their current reason of being. No more voices in your head, no more possession, she'd become a Nodoka with a master's in manipulation - but being "real" would also make her weaker.LoveBlueHairedGirl’s Himawari theory got me thinking up cracked potential theories of my own… and- okay so how about this?
Y’know how resets are able to mess with everyone’s perception of time and reality except for the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad? And also how reality can essentially be… rewritten entirely almost? (Examples: Ami getting crucified in Reset 6 but being alive again once the reset was initiated by Big Boy, Chinami coming down with a serious illness but being healthy again post reset, and of course we know of the many times Akira’s cognition has been rewritten, and now more recently Maya’s.)
Anyway, my point is: What if Sekai found a way to rewrite existence from beyond the grave? What if she’s able to return to life somehow?
We’re being led to believe Nao-chan was the last character added to the game, but… is it 100% definitely without a doubt confirmed? Or is Selebus perhaps hiding a sneaky little twist up his sleeve?
Just think about it. Sekai has appeared on the roof at the end of one of the resets before; the fifth one I believe. And Sekai is already possessing Kaori for a fact… why? To try and cling onto life in some form, obviously. Kaori’s recent events touch on the idea of rewriting history as well. It’s an interesting thought.
Imagine we go through a reset event, then once it’s initiated and Akira goes home: bam! Sitting right there on his couch.
“Hello, Aki-kun~… Did you miss me?”
And the sixteenth side character is added to the menu after the twist of all twists and a taunting message by the narrator.
“Oh, did I say Nao-chan was last? You really shouldn’t believe everything you hear, you know.”
Aw well. Realistic or not, it’s fun to imagine the possibilities.
Maya is both the anchor to Akira and to us in this story. She explains what's going on, she's the constant enigma, and she's the one that understands what we're going through. She's there to help us, she's sacrificed everything because of us, and her love simply cannot be measured.Okay. So this arc with lost Maya is lost on me. I just don't see their relationship as developed to such an extent. Like story doesn't convey that "love" towards Maya-prime as much as Sensei keep blabbering about losing her. And yes, most of it was never shown due to memory issues, but it just doesn't click. And that makes this whole trauma make no sense for my limited brain.
And adding to what you said, which is totally in line with what I think:So, just curious, am i really in the minority here who doesnt really see a problem with the whole Maya Prime storyline?
The Maya Prime storyline was great, Maya Prime as a character is top tier, and no that is not the minority opinion.While it’s true he doesn’t ‘remember his past’, keep in mind the important detail that he’s willingly suppressing it too. As such, it’s my belief that subconscious feelings are able to slip through the cracks without making themselves immediately presentable.
Akira still feels a deep connection with Sekai, Niki, Noriko, Ami, Ayane and Maya because technically that past still happened and is alluded to in story. Just because Akira is shielding himself from his past trauma by suppressing his memories, doesn’t mean he doesn’t love or care for certain people deep down.
Besides, what was he supposed to do when Maya popped on the roof?
“Oh, well that’s a bummer. Guess we’ll see how this plays out.”?
Nahhh man I’d feel guilty asf too.
Huh, i have to admit, i never thought of her as a mentor figure. But... yeah, i can see that be a thing.I think the storyline not only doesn't have a problem, but it is expected. In narratives where you have a mentor-figure, which is what Maya is in LiL, it is expected that the mentor will die at some point (could be a metaphorical death), but in the sense that the protagonist will have to deal with things himself. And that's what's happening.