buff

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One thing stills bugs me is that, was this site originally truly meant for pirated games ? And then more and more game developers decided to use and turn the site into a legitimate source for uploading ?
Oh my sweet summer child, this is 100% a pirate site. It just so happens that some developers realize that all publicity is good publicity, so it's better to cooperate (and thus retain some influence and control) than to fight it and accomplish nothing.

If Selebus did not post here this thread would continue to exist, and the main difference would be that the "patrons only" build would likely get posted a day or so after the release instead of waiting for the public release. But, since Selebus is involved in F95, he owns the thread and thus can protect the exclusivity he promised his paying patrons. This is acceptable to the (largely piratical) community, because having him here offers other value-- we know he reads our feedback, he answers questions, etc.

In addition to some modest level of control, the developer also benefits because (a) the feedback here is a bit more broad-based than he will get on Discord or Patreon, where nearly 100% of the feedback is written by serious fans who will only have nice things to say (otherwise they wouldn't be there), and (b) it gets more eyeballs onto the game. (I follow many games on SS and Patreon, and in most of the cases I found them here first, played the pirated version, and decided I liked it enough to support the creator. I'm sure others do this as well.)

Edit: Selebus clarified that while the thread's OP is in his name, he does not actually control/update the download links. Interesting!
 
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buff

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...For some reason, I always feel like Maya is the antagonist of the game, even though there aren't any.

These images don't make any sense,
I love it.
Hmmm... who could be the antagonist? Who is acting with a motive unknown to others? Who is making things hard for the most wholesome characters? Who is behaving selfishly with little or no thought to the well-being of others? Who is creating discord and strife where there was none before?
 

jesusjackct

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I kind of feel like she's the heroine. Though, I also feel as though she's been defeated, and is having a hard time healing the wounds inflicted in the battle she lost.
Still don't know what that battle is, but after you went through lotta shit, you can either adapt Yumi's personality, or be like Maya, idk.

I would highly recommend subscribing for the latest update.
Maybe in the future, if there is even any.

I have no clue what ya all are talking about.
She clearly is just a normal teenage girl and you guys are disgusting.
Who says a normal teenage girl can't be the main antagonist of the game ? You can kill someone like how a completely normal teenage girl would do. :HideThePain:

Hmmm... who could be the antagonist? Who is acting with a motive unknown to others? Who is making things hard for the most wholesome characters? Who is behaving selfishly with little or no thought to the well-being of others? Who is creating discord and strife where there was none before?
My narcissist ass ?
 

jesusjackct

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What does this even mean

T̸̼̖̺͔̼͕̯͔̀̆͗̊̓̏̍̈́͜h̴͔̗̠̓͌̏̊̈́̅̈̇̈́̃e̶̢̖͎̤͔̭̩͔̟̯̦̱̬̓̇̈̋̋͌ ̴̨̣̪̜̥͕̻͎̲̳̥̙͙̣͚͛̾̂̆̊̓͗͘w̵̭̏̊͂͋͗̃̒̇́͝ȏ̸̧͉̤̞̗̠͔̭̟̪̇̋̀͆̌̊r̸͙̖͙͆͒̓̉́͆͌̉̽͗̂͜ͅḻ̴̻̫͓̺̝̹̣̣̺̰͒̉̇̎͘͝d̷̨̗̻̏̾͗̿ ̴̛͕̰͂̌̉́̊h̸͎̞̯̜̜̞͇͕͋̔͋̊ą̶̢̛̌̅̄̏̑̿̋́͐͂͝s̷̘̪̞̈́̈́͛͂̇͒̎̂̿͒̓͠ ̵̛̛̭̱͔̬̥̘̟̙̤̟̪͔̪̤͍̎̓́̌̐̅̎̾̕͘̚͝͝a̶̡̦̥̭̭̟̙̥̱͔̩̋͜l̷̢͓͚̼̆̅̉̇͝ṟ̸̛͚͙̥̖́̄͑̊͌͊͌͗̅̈́̀̈́̂ͅe̸̛͍͓͊̂͐͆̽͜͝a̷̻͌̒͂̀̈́͆̎̅͋̕͜d̴͙͚̞͈̀̈́̉̔͒̋͗̆̎̑ͅy̶̛̜̯͆͝ ̸͎͕͇̙̥͓̖̱̒̐̒͗̇̈͒̋̿͊́̈́͝͝e̵̤͉̺͉̞̞͔̜̔̌̈́͘͘͝ņ̷͈̮̱̩̰̲̺͇͇̦̘̦͒͆̈͆̑̓͂̈́͊̈d̸̡̡̡̛̙̹̟̫̻̫̫̺̲̱̥̔͆̅̍̌e̷̡̡̮̼̳̬͇͖͔̳̹̯̒̓̾͗͐͋͛̆d̴͓̮͎̫̻̩̮̭̜̈͒̍́͊̊̒̒̃̄͠ there's no more hope



Nah, I'm just being pessimistic.
 

Kikurage

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Oct 12, 2018
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After catching up with the updates i have to say again this VN is awesome.
I just completed chapter 1. The Yumi scene at the hotel was really cute. I did not expect that.
I don't even care for the porn anymore lol
The story wont let me go
Keep up the good work Selebus!
Though I think the Rin kiss scene after she got "dumped" felt a bit rushed? Idk
 

S - Boy

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Oh my sweet summer child, this is 100% a pirate site. It just so happens that some developers realize that all publicity is good publicity, so it's better to cooperate (and thus retain some influence and control) than to fight it and accomplish nothing.

If Selebus did not post here this thread would continue to exist, and the main difference would be that the "patrons only" build would likely get posted a day or so after the release instead of waiting for the public release. But, since Selebus is involved in F95, he owns the thread and thus can protect the exclusivity he promised his paying patrons. This is acceptable to the (largely piratical) community, because having him here offers other value-- we know he reads our feedback, he answers questions, etc.

In addition to some modest level of control, the developer also benefits because (a) the feedback here is a bit more broad-based than he will get on Discord or Patreon, where nearly 100% of the feedback is written by serious fans who will only have nice things to say (otherwise they wouldn't be there), and (b) it gets more eyeballs onto the game. (I follow many games on SS and Patreon, and in most of the cases I found them here first, played the pirated version, and decided I liked it enough to support the creator. I'm sure others do this as well.)
Thanks, now I know the true story and how it works
My mind is enlightened, thank you Sensei, buddy.

This is not true. I own this thread but have absolutely no control over what links and updates are posted here. The mods are in control of that.
Ah wait,
Now that's depressing.
 
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Kikurage

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That’s not correct, though. Again, I am not in charge of any download that gets posted or updated in this thread. It’s registered to me in name only. Even I would have to contact the mods if I wanted to post an update here.
I feel like I've seen this answer posted for like the millionth time on the last 10 pages of this thread.
What are you even discussing?

Just enjoy the game, losers.
 

S - Boy

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Sep 14, 2020
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That’s not correct, though. Again, I am not in charge of any download that gets posted or updated in this thread. It’s registered to me in name only. Even I would have to contact the mods if I wanted to post an update here.
If this is the same case for all the developers on f95 then, I kinda feel bad for them rn.
But do you personally get bothered by this ?
 

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If this is the same case for all the developers on f95 then, I kinda feel bad for them rn.
But do you personally get bothered by this ?
Oh, definitely. There's just not really anything I can do about it, unfortunately.

I didn't think it would affect me so much prior to releasing anything worth being pirated since I used to pirate everything back in the day. Hell, I've been literally arrested for stealing before. But it's hard not being bothered by people begging for someone else to fork over $5 and leak a game for them because they don't want to wait two weeks. Those people bother me more than the ones actually downloading them.

I have a responsibility as a creator to defend my consumers and my product. And while I know there are plenty of people who would continue to donate to me even if there was no difference between a Patreon and public release, it doesn't change the principle of people simply taking things that other people are using their hard earned money to buy- especially after I've demonstrated the exact weight of that impact on several occasions.

Piracy is inevitable in today's day and age and is the key reason that so many professionally-made visual novels release at a loss. I'm fortunate enough to have made something that so many people love, but I'd still be completely irresponsible for not informing and educating everyone about the damages piracy can cause.

I work extremely hard on this game. In just the last year, I've put out 700k words and 30+ hours of content without help from anyone. There is no exclusive gameplay that only subscribers have access to. There are no additional transactions or bonuses I make people pay for to get a full experience. All I do is ask for $5 in exchange for early access to something that everyone else is going to get in two weeks anyway. And even that much is enough to make some people rage or complain, apparently. I'd be a liar if I said that didn't bother me.
 

El_Zane_123

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After catching up with the updates i have to say again this VN is awesome.
I just completed chapter 1. The Yumi scene at the hotel was really cute. I did not expect that.
I don't even care for the porn anymore lol
The story wont let me go
Keep up the good work Selebus!
Though I think the Rin kiss scene after she got "dumped" felt a bit rushed? Idk
Yeah, this game here is probs the worst adult game in existence. And yet I'm hooked like a junkie.
Send halp (But not from someone like Yumi, I'm fine, tyvm and please don't rip my balls off).
 
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