Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.41.0] [Selebus]

[LooLoo Baloo]

You know I find it funny that it's even claimed that it isn't a sex game

Seeing as every event in the game (Literally every single event) mentions the fact that the protagonist either wants to f*ck or molest the girl he's talking to, or their mother, or their classmates. You can't go 2 minutes of reading without Sensei thinking about f*cking someone. Sel's in denial about what it really is

And yeah for sure there's creepy little themes and the happy events, but again they all contain r*pe or sex of some kind. You can't make a game that is entirely based on having sex with schoolgirls and pretend it's something ethically superior than what it is

 

[SexTrouble]

Guys I'm stuck, there is one main scene left, 2 for Ayana and 2 for Osaka, I have no failed scenes.

 

[Jimbolance]

Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama. (for the record I'm on the "he should chill out" side here)

So anyway! I have some Thoughts about the Daisy stuff that happened in the update

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[ReegusLeroy]

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[Axismundi]

Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama. (for the record I'm on the "he should chill out" side here)

So anyway! I have some Thoughts about the Daisy stuff that happened in the update

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[barglenarglezous]

Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama.

We actually had a healthy discussion going before it got derailed by that. They're a couple pages back at this point.

I do agree that Daisy is probably Teacher's daughter with Sensei, or who she would have been, but she was never actually born (still in the womb when the accident happened). The daisy imagery pretty much ties her directly to Teacher.

 

[ComplexOne2]

I think we could question percentages and income sources forever without for sure getting anywhere useful but everything really just boils down to 'does this place pirating his game cost him more in lost subscribers than it provides through advertisement?'.

If he misses out on $1000 of subscriber money but gains $2000 from this place, he's a fucking idiot to have a problem with the site. If he's only pulling in $10k thanks to this site boosting him up and he'd be lucky to be making $1k without then he's just an asshole that bites the hand that fed him. And lastly, if this place does just cost him money that he would've gotten without this site and he never needed its free advertisement to begin with, why was he so hopeful of making it big here earlier on?

None of it adds up in way that wholly justifies his attitude but it's already been established that he's a douche so is it really a surprise? If he gets this game off this site it's not like i'm going to turn around and start giving him money, leak or no leak i wouldn't spare him a single cent if his life depended on it.

I still think it would be funny to see the game removed from here, I think you would have a good laugh about it as well on the discord.

 

[Axismundi]

I still think it would be funny to see the game removed from here, I think you would have a good laugh about it as well on the discord.

If the game did get removed, the salt that would flow would be hilarious. Unfortunately, the thread probably wouldn't stay up for us to experience it.

But to try to stay on the thread, I was actually very happy that the game let you leave the bad situation for once, but I haven't gone back and clicked the other option yet. What happens if you choose to make a move on her? How bad is it?

 

[ComplexOne2]

If the game did get removed, the salt that would flow would be hilarious. Unfortunately, the thread probably wouldn't stay up for us to experience it.

But to try to stay on the thread, I was actually very happy that the game let you leave the bad situation for once, but I haven't gone back and clicked the other option yet. What happens if you choose to make a move on her? How bad is it?

Well it's not as bad as you expect since

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[Jimbolance]

But to try to stay on the thread, I was actually very happy that the game let you leave the bad situation for once, but I haven't gone back and clicked the other option yet. What happens if you choose to make a move on her? How bad is it?

To expand on ComplexOne's comment, I believe you also don't get the next Sana event "Ad Infinitum" which is like a pseudo-happy event and has a lot of really interesting new info. I recommend loading up a save to see what's in it for yourself first, but if you can't or don't feel like it, here's a summary.

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[Algorist]

Why does Sensei hate the letter T? Is that due to Maya, Teacher, or perhaps even Daisy?

"There is something buried underneath your feet!"

"I sit in my chair and I masturbate to any body that appears before me."
"Today, it was the body of a girl who died a long, long time ago."
"Her name begins with the letter T."

"Two angels appear before me. Their voices remind me of a long lost friend."
"Her name begins with the letter T."

"The scent of old textbooks lingers through the corridor like the ghosts of students past, stuck endlessly traversing the halls in hopes of uncovering some sort of escape route."
"I recall a time when I was younger and cut my hand on the glass of a window that I attempted to climb out of."
"I fell two stories and landed on my ankle in a way that made it incredibly difficult to walk for at least two weeks."
"During that time, I grew closer to someone who would one day leave me."

Any chance of the person referred being Daisy (she being some other childhood friend Sensei had besides Niki that he's forgotten? Perhaps because she died and the trauma fucked him up mentally)?

I don't think that refers to Teacher at all. Sensei probably didn't consider Teacher a "Friend"; Besides, Maya isn't old enough to fit here.

I honestly thought for a long time that Daisy was the dead girl, but considering the following exchange:

s "One more thing. But it's going to make me sound strange again."
m "I can assure you I am quite used to that by now."
s "Then...how do you feel about the letter T?"
m "..."
s "..."
m "What?"
s "Told you."
m "What does the letter T have to do with anything? Is that...some sort of code?"
s "No. Well, at least I don’t think it is."
s "I’m not really sure."
s "I just vaguely remember something about that letter recently. But I feel like it's...a memory I'm not really supposed to have? Does that make any sense?"
m "Not really..."
m "Besides, what relevancy would that have to me? Asking me how I feel implies that I have something to do with this, doesn't it?"
s "Dream-Maya was there again."
m "Is she just in all of your dreams now? Because that is quite sickening and does not make me feel very safe."
s "I wouldn’t worry too much about it...It's probably just more meaningless brain vomit."
s "Dream-Maya was there again."
m "Is she just in all of your dreams now? Because that is quite sickening and does not make me feel very safe."
s "I wouldn’t worry too much about it...It's probably just more meaningless brain vomit."
m "I sincerely hope that is true for the sake of both of us."
m "So, did anything else happen? Or is that it?"

I'm less sure. Any theories about this "T" girl?

 

[xylem2]

Sooo what exactly was happening to Sana during white eyes moments? None of the explanations I came up with make much sense

 

[Jimbolance]

Sooo what exactly was happening to Sana during white eyes moments? None of the explanations I came up with make much sense

I mean it's probably the exact same thing that was happening to Yasu earlier, which I interpreted to be HOPE trying to possess them.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Sooo what exactly was happening to Sana during white eyes moments? None of the explanations I came up with make much sense

I was assuming she was also experiencing "black outs" due to the higher beings (possibly HOPE) inserting their presences/dominance into people. HOPE has the tendency of directing events into more adult-ish when taking controls of characters (more recent examples being Sensei and Yasu)

 

[StabbyMike0]

Still stuck at last two ayane events

 

[g6107419]

For those who have not seen it we got a massive post from Sel

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on Discord

I actually think this is a sane approach, I didn't think we would get there but it appears to be a good balance. Poor peasants like me still get access to the game and he continues to increase revenue with different revenue streams. I guess his income dipped from the $100k+ he was getting with Patreon + merch that he was getting before. It also looks like it'll continue to be in that gray zone of what is commercialisation of content is, though that's an issue I don't care much for, and if legal action does come his way that's for him to handle.

Looks like going forward we will maintain the status quo.

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tl;dr - adding different revenue stream in the flow of "bonus content" at the cost of $5 a month which grants access to a number of different items. Ultimately goal is hitting 10k/month via SS ($120k/year income, nice) while maintaining the current model

>What I will not do in response to this is take away anything that loyal players of my public releases have grown accustomed to. The game you play now will remain the same game it’s always been- and it will still release two weeks behind the subscriber-version, the same way it always has.

- Sel

 

[Vidaura]

For those who have not seen it we got a massive post from Sel

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on Discord

I actually think this is a sane approach, I didn't think we would get there but it appears to be a good balance. Poor peasants like me still get access to the game and he continues to increase revenue with different revenue streams. I guess his income dipped from the $100k+ he was getting with Patreon + merch that he was getting before. It also looks like it'll continue to be in that gray zone of what is commercialisation of content is, though that's an issue I don't care much for, and if legal action does come his way that's for him to handle.

Looks like going forward we will maintain the status quo.

Can you give a summary of what this approach is for those of us not in the discord?

 

[fdsasdf_p]

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Wait which part of the dialogue was Daisy insinuating the importance of impregnating Ayane and not touching Sana? Must've missed a big chunk of details somewhere.

Though I think it's more likely that Daisy is Sekai's unborn daughter killed during the accident, I somehow like the idea of her being "the culminated offspring of all the characters" . It actually sounds kind of plausible if everything girl gets pregnant at some point and every conceived baby gets erased after resets, and then all the babies converge into her (or simply all of them are her)

 

[g6107419]

Can you give a summary of what this approach is for those of us not in the discord?

added a tl;dr

 

[moodle]

Spoiler: The complete announcement from the Discord

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The thing that caught my eye was the invite over stuff. Rule 7 here bans sexual content of prepubescent characters, and, like... if there's a "teen" model of a character and a "younger" model of the character that's obviously flat and undeveloped, that's clearly a prepubescent character, right? So are the mods here going to remove the game? We sort of already have this with Uta, where she's an oppai loli and in the last update we got sent pictures of her from when she was younger and clearly prepubescent, but this sounds like not just nudes but sex scenes.