Axismundi

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Damn, Sel basically did the best possible option. I was actually certain that he was going to tie up the game in some sort of legal battle that would put him under a lot of pressure and would damage the progress being made on the game and, more concerningly, put more stress on his mental health. Instead, he just gave a fuck ton of reasons to actually support him. So much so that I'm considering increasing my $5 subscription to a $25 one out of sheer respect.
 

g6107419

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Damn, Sel basically did the best possible option. I was actually certain that he was going to tie up the game in some sort of legal battle that would put him under a lot of pressure and would damage the progress being made on the game and, more concerningly, put more stress on his mental health. Instead, he just gave a fuck ton of reasons to actually support him. So much so that I'm considering increasing my $5 subscription to a $25 one out of sheer respect.
He has no grounds for legal action, it is the best outcome for sure but a legal battle wasn't an option.
 

barglenarglezous

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Sep 5, 2020
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The thing that caught my eye was the invite over stuff. Rule 7 here bans sexual content of prepubescent characters, and, like... if there's a "teen" model of a character and a "younger" model of the character that's obviously flat and undeveloped, that's clearly a prepubescent character, right? So are the mods here going to remove the game? We sort of already have this with Uta, where she's an oppai loli and in the last update we got sent pictures of her from when she was younger and clearly prepubescent, but this sounds like not just nudes but sex scenes.
Given that this is an attempt to combat piracy, it's unlikely that this will be part of the base game, it'll probably be a patch subscribers can download and plop in. In that case, the game itself would be fine to stay -- but the patch would not be, since it violates rule 7.

And that's ultimately what he wants -- an incentive for people to actually support him that they can't get here.
 

cckerberos

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The thing that caught my eye was the invite over stuff. Rule 7 here bans sexual content of prepubescent characters, and, like... if there's a "teen" model of a character and a "younger" model of the character that's obviously flat and undeveloped, that's clearly a prepubescent character, right? So are the mods here going to remove the game? We sort of already have this with Uta, where she's an oppai loli and in the last update we got sent pictures of her from when she was younger and clearly prepubescent, but this sounds like not just nudes but sex scenes.
The question of whether or not the game actually gets removed due to Rule 7 was always going to come to a head eventually. Actual sexual content with lolis in the game has always been planned, and with the the removal from Patreon and his frustration over early leaks, Sel has suggested that he's planning to do it sooner rather than later.
 
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worthlesspeon

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Oh no, I understand that. I was just worried he was actually going to try it.
My guess is he was advised that he has no case and/or it would open up a can of worms that would be problematic for him. Or possibly even decent lawyers do not want to associate themselves with defending things that can be claimed as CP. So now he's taking this approach.

Overall I do think he's still reaching some incorrect conclusions. Fact is up until Patreon cracked its whip, his income was increasing pretty drastically. And to my memory, pretty much all of the releases leaked here early save for a couple. If he's seeing a significant drop in income *now*, I suspect it's more due to everything else going on in the world with inflation and such. I would imagine people who are having a hard time making ends meet are less likely to spend money on a porn game.

The other possibility is that there are just fewer people who enjoy the game at this point. The reviews here have been downtrending, I know I don't have nearly as much interest as I used to, and he's basically stated his plan is to make the game more and more annoying to play.
 

LooLoo Baloo

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I like what he's chosen to do, the added content sounds cool and I might have to pick up my pledge again sometime. Hopefully that's the end of that, and everyone can focus on the game again
 

cckerberos

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And to my memory, pretty much all of the releases leaked here early save for a couple.
This is true. I can only think of one that didn't leak early. But it used to take at least a few days, and (IIRC) Selebus once said that even a 48 hour delay was enough for most impatient people to just pay. I mean, your other points might be on the money, but the nature of the leaks has changed over time.
 

kitsunedawn

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Aug 17, 2017
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To break it down, loli is more of a body type than anything that denotes age. Which is why it can cause a lot of problems when people are deciding what to keep and what to get rid of on this site. I believe in order for a loli to be considered inappropriate on this site, they have to fail 3 things. Age, appearance, and personality. If it looks like a kid, acts like a kid, and is age-confirmed as a kid, then it's problematic. But if it passes one of those, then people will fight to keep the game up.
Part of the issue with loli content, is the question of legality. In some jurisdictions, regardless of if there's a disclaimer that says "all characters are 18 years of age or older" or something similar; possession of those images or games with that type of content is treated as though the person possessed **********. I think the specific letter of the law is something akin to "Simulated sex with minors", but don't quote me on that.

Now, Patreon has historically been leery of such content, going so far as to force developers (regardless of the legal age of consent in their countries) to either completely remove such content from games, or severely modify it so no sexual activity can take place between the loli/shota character, an an adult.

Subscribestar takes a different approach with it, making a simple blanket statement in their guidelines/rules that says "Don’t break the law - the international ones, the law of the state you reside in or our Terms and Conditions which is our internal law."

Their own TOC notes "To violate any international, federal, provincial or state regulations, rules, laws, or local ordinances. " is against their rules.

There in lies the problem that loli/shota game makers face. If they are in a state, or nation (those that don't differentiate by 'states') where loli content is treated like real pornographic images of minors, and this is reported to Subscribestar; by their own rules that content must either be removed, or the developer will find their project banned.

When Patreon first really started cracking down on this, some developers tried to do an 'end run' around the rules and create these 'patches' which could be downloaded and applied to the game to reactivate the loli/shota content. Patreon's response was to change their rules somewhat and apply them to all forms of the project being developed. Meaning that if they reviewed the file and found it retained the banned content, which could be bypassed with a 'patch', then it was treated as though it was always present.

Subscribestar has been more lenient about things, but just because they haven't always cracked down on something, doesn't mean they won't.

The dev here is playing a pretty dangerous game, if they wish to include loli/shota type content in the game that can simply be 'patched' in; as that would suggest the content is already present in the base game, and unless the developer lives in some place like Angola, or Nigeria where the age of consent is 11... then they are going to have a seriously difficult time making an argument that any loli/shota content isn't violating Subscribestar's own rules.
 

Chivuron

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May 1, 2018
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i use to play the fuck out of this game. then i took a break. during that break my laptop fucked up and with it, my save. as much as i love this story, i have absolutely no desire to go through it all again grinding for those love points and lust points. the story is good but the "gameplay" is absolutely tedious. can anyone upload a full save for me so i can be up to date? at the very least, a save up until the point selebus took that long break to redo the starting chapters? that's about the last time i played
 

Lolicon Kami

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Nov 3, 2019
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i use to play the fuck out of this game. then i took a break. during that break my laptop fucked up and with it, my save. as much as i love this story, i have
1-1 is more or less the full save.

1-2 leaves off from remake.

NOTE: Save folder for game is titled Test2-1577602671
Also, add persistent file into game save folder if you don't want the fast-forward content option to be fucked.

For both saves: Used save editor (saveeditoronline) to modify character stats real high. No scenes missing, good homie achieved, Dorm 1 won dorm war. I do not think I'm flagged as a cheater.
 
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Voidstryker

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Mar 22, 2019
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Can anyone give me a save with everything before Wither completed. I somehow skipped such small hands and soft locked myself. I cant do that event anymore since Ami works at the maid cafe in the morning now.
 
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barglenarglezous

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no one cares sad but true .i'll just wait guide update.
The last two Ayane events trigger automatically once everything else is done. If they're not, something is wrong with your save. I don't remember what exact day the first one triggers, but it's either a Monday or Tuesday. The last one triggers on the following Thursday.

If your Ayane affection is under 45, grind it up to the next multiple of 5 to see if that shakes it loose

I can't think of anything else that could be causing that.
 

twidledumb1313

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Dec 23, 2018
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So im playing this game for the first time and for some reason I'm stuck on the rewrite world is broken part. Doesnt matter how many times I go to the shrine and then go to the dorms I cannot get it to trigger the reset main quest. Does anyone have a solution for this?
 

rightsaidfred

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Nov 23, 2017
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I have 2 saves,

Sensei only fucks when the narrative forces it. (Goodish Sensei)
Sensei fucks everything he can, regardless. ( Bad Sensei )

In my "Goodish Sensei" save, i didn't have the option to put my arm around Sana in her room. Sana didn't see the "angels" Ad infinitum was skipped. Is it Sara/sex choices that make ad infinitum available?

Also on one of my saves the ren'py navigation bar is not present across the bottom, which would be fine except that's the only way to get to the new progress tracker. How do i turn that back on?
 

barglenarglezous

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Sep 5, 2020
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I have 2 saves,

Sensei only fucks when the narrative forces it. (Goodish Sensei)
Sensei fucks everything he can, regardless. ( Bad Sensei )

In my "Goodish Sensei" save, i didn't have the option to put my arm around Sana in her room. Sana didn't see the "angels" Ad infinitum was skipped. Is it Sara/sex choices that make ad infinitum available?

Also on one of my saves the ren'py navigation bar is not present across the bottom, which would be fine except that's the only way to get to the new progress tracker. How do i turn that back on?
As far as I can tell, yes, sleeping with Sara is what allows you to see most of the Sana content this update.

The navigation bar vanishing is a pretty common issue, and I don't think anyone's found a solution.
 

k1n5l4y3r

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Jun 20, 2018
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For people stuck on Ayane events, it should trigger with Makoto coming back to class, on monday so if you have all other events it should trigger then. Make sure to have all Makoto, Maki, Miku events, they are probably requisites.
 

fdsasdf_p

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Apr 24, 2021
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So im playing this game for the first time and for some reason I'm stuck on the rewrite world is broken part. Doesnt matter how many times I go to the shrine and then go to the dorms I cannot get it to trigger the reset main quest. Does anyone have a solution for this?
After visiting the shrine a few times you should’ve gained enough God affection points and the option of going to the school; from there you can continue.

Don’t forget to visit sport field to obtained a missable happy scene.
 
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