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Probably it has something to do with your points being boring, imaginary or plain dumb. I personally stopped treating them seriously after trigger words of "gaslighting and victim blaming".
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Thanks, any chance i can grab the image file version of it though? I keep the image in my LiL folder for quick reference.
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I thought he was joking. There were so many people asking this questions, that some started memeing it. Even Selebus did it in this very thread.
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To think that you of all people would unironically say this. Glass houses.
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About the impact of F95 on LiL, here's a quote from Sel :
There is also no denying that the instant leaks hurt the game nowadays.
I understand Selebus being angry at F95 about the "OP edit fiasco", especially since it happened during the patreon bullshit which was a particularly stressful time for him (like he was making 10k/month and suddenly 0, for no valid reason, imagine that).
And sure he could have taken the high road back then or even let bygones be bygones after a while, but he didn't and things escalated from there.
Bit of a shame, really. But eh, at least we got some quality drama because of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyway there is no denying that F95 helped the game prosper quite a bit, regardless of the actual number.Selebus said:
There is also no denying that the instant leaks hurt the game nowadays.
I understand Selebus being angry at F95 about the "OP edit fiasco", especially since it happened during the patreon bullshit which was a particularly stressful time for him (like he was making 10k/month and suddenly 0, for no valid reason, imagine that).
And sure he could have taken the high road back then or even let bygones be bygones after a while, but he didn't and things escalated from there.
Bit of a shame, really. But eh, at least we got some quality drama because of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Holy shit, I missed a fucking hurricane of drama... I wonder what Sel was trying to accomplish with this? Whatever it was, it seemed to have backfired. I hope he calms down because he's probably going to give himself a stroke.
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Don't need to when two other people destroyed your points better than I could before I even saw your points
It's also not a point of view I had a post deleted as well calling out the childish behavior. While I admit I am making an assumption on your origin. You are a burner account from like 4 years ago with very little posts that has done nothing but simp so it seems like a solid assumptionThousands of people browse this thread and 2-3 are leaking content. But it didn't use to be this way - back in the Patreon days, the number of patrons was similar, but updates used to take a few days to leak if they ended up leaking at all. I wonder what changed?
Care about what, Selly reaching his stated goal of making as much money as Summertime Saga? I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of even the less popular games on this site leak pretty quickly here, as sharing and talking about games is what this website is for. So what you want is the staff of this website to sacrifice the desires of their entire community for those of one single already-successful game dev, making an exception for this one game among thousands, because why? He's not making enough money to support all the overhead he has, being a staunchly one-man crew who doesn't even have to pay for assets?
I get that what Selly wants is this thread deleted, but he's being megalomaniacal and irrational, because all that would do is ensure his growth completely and permanently stagnated. Every time this thread pops up on the latest updates page, thousands of people who have never heard of it before get the opportunity to discover it for the first time. Thousands of people who played it or saw it pop up in the past are reminded of its existence. This thread has almost 6 million views. All of those eyeballs come with a conversion rate of people generous enough to support its existence through patronage, which is the only reason he's reached the level of success he has. There is no other place on the internet that offers this kind of exposure, especially for games as depraved as this one. It will NEVER be hosted on Steam or GOG or any other mainstream marketplace at any point in the future, because of both the subject matter and the fact that he doesn't own the copyright on the visual assets.
Again - I'm interested in what the nuthugger perspective is for how else this game is going to be discoverable. How many people do you think talk to other people about the porn games they play, especially ones of this nature? How many have you, personally? I saw one guy in another game's thread talk about how he got his dad to play and support the game - do you think something similar has ever happened with this one?
Are there some other websites where this game has gotten even 1/10th the exposure it's gotten here? AFAIK, there's only Itch, who are beholden to Paypal and Stripe's content policies, who even you must realize would probably not be OK with processing payments for this game if they knew they were doing it. Luckily since no one here wants to actually harm a game dev, they are unlikely to for the foreseeable future, but that's the only real place this game has to fall back on if this thread goes away, AFAIK.
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Facepalmed because, as axelsk said, this question has been asked so many times in this thread and it just gums up the board
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You could just Highlight and Copy/Paste the text into Notepad and save as *.txt file. Or if you're lazy, here use mine.
I see Rika (Rin's mom) is confirmed next character to be released now(0.31 part 1)
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It was confirmed on discord a while ago but yeah good for her to finally get her first solo events.
The suspense is still very real as to who will be the 35th and last character.
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I wouldn't know that. The only thing I see on discord is the #Rules.
I know there's more than just the #Rules page. Was there about a year ago just reading what ppl had to say and see hints of what's to come, but now everything else is cut off.
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Read the rules. I think you have to click a meat icon or something to get access to the public thingsI wouldn't know that. The only thing I see on discord is the #Rules.
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Well that's odd. I'll give it a shot.
Edit: Well it worked; not before I clicked on the on the wrong one, because there 3 of them in that post, and was asked to pay for "Nitro" for $99.99! Which is a NoTY!
Also does anyone know why the event of Chika inviting Sensei to the Onsen on Monday in the school hall is NOT listed any where in the game? Not in Main Events or Main Girls or Side Girls or even the LiL Wiki!
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You'll notice it. It even seems self aware, as Sensei tells her to calm down, and she acknowledges that people will complain. Not self aware enough apparently.
I'm not feeling particularly optimistic, tbh. I'm just debating out of boredom and for its own sake at this point. I've donated a AAA game's amount of money to this project, and the response to my mild criticism in this thread was my main discord account getting banned and getting kicked off and refunded on SS. If I found this game today as opposed to 2.5 years ago, and the most recent pages were 90% negativity about the dev, and there was dumb shit like the Patreon rant in the game? I never would have supported it. So I can't help but think future growth is going to be stunted either way because the game isn't what it used to be, which is going to continue to be blamed on piracy, which is going to continue tensions with this site, which is going to continue to leak into the game and continue to make the situation worse in a neverending cycle. But hey, maybe this is all just shitty ramblings, the fuck do I know about game development and marketing? I'm just a dumbass debate pervert software dev who got lucky with an app.
If he wants to maintain his current patron base, sure. But you're forgetting that his explicit goal is to make as much as (and more than, I'm sure) Summertime Saga - 6x what he's currently at. And again, good luck doing that without F95, whether it's 40% or 90%.
You can't advertise shit on 4chan, they'll tear you apart. I was talking about word of mouth.
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Yes because that 63k goal is obviously a realistic goal that Selebus actually hopes to reach.
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Not sure it really answers "why" but here is what the wiki says on that topic :
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You and I agree it's unrealistic, but think about it this way: if that WAS his goal, wouldn't that perfectly explain his current behavior and the amount of butthurt he has over seeing his growth stagnate in the last few months? If you were only being paid 1/6 of what you thought you should be, wouldn't you also think that was "harm"?
I'm sure he'd even deny it if you asked him. "Of course it's a joke!" - because anything otherwise would make him look greedy as hell. But since he's acting in the exact way as if it were the case, I think it's a lot more likely than you think.
Also look at how he worded it - "If Summertime Saga can make this much, so can I" - that makes it almost sound reasonable, no? Maybe hinting he doesn't have a high opinion of it, and wonders why it makes so much more money than him? If it wasn't reasonable, and SS was very obviously a game that far more people would enjoy, wouldn't it be more likely to be written as something sarcastic like "Summertime Saga is totally within our reach, right guys?" And even then it still might not be an actual joke.
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Alright.. I've gotta overcome my fears to play this game, instead of being heavily traumatized! Let's do this!
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Well that's unfortunate. That means it's not replay-able at all. You'll see it once through normal playthrough and that's it...
This will maybe put a damper on crustlord12's Replay All Mod since its not an event and will be skipped by the Mod. How's that going BTW?
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That's where i disagree here. I don't recall seeing him butthurt about stagnating. He was making 10k/month then following the patreon dumbfuckery he had to start from scratch with SubscribeStar. He was butthurt about making less than he used to.
Also i went back to find the announcement that he made when he reached 10k on SS :
That really give me a vibe of "i got back to where i was and i'm happy about it" and not so much "i need more, MORE *drools*"Selebus said: