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Gonna say it's Maki considering their relationship, but to what extent Maki did for Miku is not shown in the game
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sorry let me emphasize, the chatroom jargon used by trained therapists because it is therapy jargon.
them meeting in a chatroom was confirmed in game, what kind of chatroom was not
the kind of chatroom was confirmed in the care packages from what i understand
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not really definitive like what i'm told was in the care package.
this is a difference in suggestive possibility that gave the idea in the first place vs outright confirmation
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It seems more like sucking a dick seemed worth it for living the easy life, to me. It wasn't until after she got knocked up while drugged out, then had Yumi, that she decided to leave, years down the line, while keeping his name just in case. I also don't recall it actually being said to be her virginity, just what knocked her up.
"why else would she build a rep as a fighter chick no one wants to approach that beats the shit out of thugs", likely to avoid being raped, like what would have probably happened if she didn't fight back against Yumi's father's goons back when they met.
Her also not remembering but thinking it's possible she's been fucked by others, kind of implies how she was getting drugs in the first place. The whole every guy she met trying to get in her pants line also implies she was used to stuff like it. It also could explain why she hates herself beyond just the drug abuse and doesn't see why Sensei wants to be with her. Not to mention, she never said she never sucked any other guy off, just that she doesn't remember having a thing with others. I think she was meaning in terms of getting fucked by them or maybe just simply dating. I'm also not sure how else she's been able to pay for stuff since she's never had a job prior to the bar.
As for the prostitution, I definitely get that it depends on what one finds "honorable", but still, I think I explained my reasonings. Also the whole meeting Yumi's dad thing was mentioned in Yuki's second event.
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Just a theory, but Sana's brother getting shanked might be more of a cover story like the entire space war thing. People might just think these things due to mental alteration. Something actually may have just wiped out most of the males, and created this loop so that Sensei could knock up the class and feed it his children indefinitely. Or perhaps teach the being responsible for everything; "love".
Might explain the whole "Lessons in Love" name. Sensei (along with everyone else) could have been chosen to teach/show some eldritch being what Love is.
I still think this game will go the Black Souls route, though, tbh, and the thing taking Sekai's form might actually be some kind of crawling chaos from lovecraftian horror. So, that's probably influencing me somewhat.
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yeah there is the ... homeless theory.
the extreme level of homeless people are actually the people that were summoned off to 'space war' and are stuck in a schizophrenic daze preventing them from going back home to interfere with the world whoever is doing this wants. its also kind of weird that there are this many visually identifiable homeless people (by character conversation) when we have events directly mentioning sleeping in internet cafe's implying sel knows about the actual homless rate in japan and how it is a reportable (roundable) 0% and how the japanese for the most part would rather kill themselves than to even look homeless. (not an exaggeration)
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Replayed some Sara's events to refresh my memory about her story and her ex teacher, and found some subtle foreshadowing about her blackouts in Tell Me When.
But, I still feel kinda odd that her ex teacher didn't leave the picture right when Sana's older brother was born; no he stuck around and knocked her up the second time, then he left; having bastard kids wasn't what drove him away?
(I was thinking perhaps it was not like he ended the relationship with her, but was actually dead because he was assumed to be Nozomu, but timeframe-wise this wasn't coherent)
Maybe Sara brought up the possibility of settling down with him only when she got knocked up the second time; and this would mean before that this asshole was completely fine with keep having sex with Sara despite already giving her one child
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Then again if blackouts continuously happened during Sara's high school year then probably the whole story needs to be taken with a grain of salt (almost everything with this game is I suppose)
But, I still feel kinda odd that her ex teacher didn't leave the picture right when Sana's older brother was born; no he stuck around and knocked her up the second time, then he left; having bastard kids wasn't what drove him away?
(I was thinking perhaps it was not like he ended the relationship with her, but was actually dead because he was assumed to be Nozomu, but timeframe-wise this wasn't coherent)
Maybe Sara brought up the possibility of settling down with him only when she got knocked up the second time; and this would mean before that this asshole was completely fine with keep having sex with Sara despite already giving her one child
.Then again if blackouts continuously happened during Sara's high school year then probably the whole story needs to be taken with a grain of salt (almost everything with this game is I suppose)
Isn't he like, the absolute worst person to pick for that?
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I suspect that it's more lucky the student of the lessons implied in the title is Akira himself, and that the girls teach him, because that's been a running internal dialogue since the beginning. Initially, he wanted to defile them, destroy them, corrupt them, but over time, he's started acknowledging his feelings, and is starting to outright accept them. He's the one learning to love.
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If them literally using the coaxing words therapists use in group therapy to get people who don't want to talk at all to open up isn't explicit enough for you, you're going to be really angry when the game is done and many things are still left unanswered because it was left for you to figure out from the subtext.
Because there's likely to be a LOT of it.
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He's definitely up there on the worst possible chosen ones ever.
Nevertheless, some being that doesn't understand things like "love" wouldn't really know he'd be a bad choice. Just that there seems to be a lot of little girls that want to be with him, and even as a kid, he was "loved" by his sister in law, who he never stopped loving, then later on he was loved by a certain pink haired girl who nearly killed herself after he dumped her. After that he was loved by his Niece, Ayane, Maya, Etc.
I can definitely see that, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the being isn't learning the same lessons through him. Watching him develop over and over. Take Maya for example, she might just be the one he usually fell for, so now, she's been taken off the board to give the other girls a chance at "love", and give the being more experience.
It also fits the whole "using" Sensei thing that's apparently going on with the gods/beings/users.
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like...dude. i was one of the people that claimed it from that one scene from the start
I'm saying in the damn CP its not subtext. that's all I'm saying and with a mystery based game subtext is good for theory and if the game ended on an open note people can and do choose to interpret stories how they want but its not the same thing as outright confirmation
i'm fine with both, i'm just distinguishing between the two
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It seemed more like she found out he was either actually cheating on her or likely doing so, and he decided that he didn't want to hear it, then went out for milk and never came back.Replayed some Sara's events to refresh my memory about her story and her ex teacher, and found some subtle foreshadowing about her blackouts in Tell Me When.
But, I still feel kinda odd that her ex teacher didn't leave the picture right when Sana's older brother was born; no he stuck around and knocked her up the second time, then he left; having bastard kids wasn't what drove him away?
(I was thinking perhaps it was not like he ended the relationship with her, but was actually dead because he was assumed to be Nozomu, but timeframe-wise this wasn't coherent)
Maybe Sara brought up the possibility of settling down with him only when she got knocked up the second time; and this would mean before that this asshole was completely fine with keep having sex with Sara despite already giving her one child
Then again if blackouts continuously happened during Sara's high school year then probably the whole story needs to be taken with a grain of salt (almost everything with this game is I suppose)
Not to mention, apparently Sara lost her virginity at 13, so I don't think the teacher actually wanted to ever be with her beyond the sex at any point. In other words; it sounds like she got used until he decided she wasn't worth the trouble.
Also yeah, it could simply be a mental alteration to explain why Sana's father isn't around, when what ever actually took the men, took him as well. Hard to tell since blacking out and altered memories are common place.
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It would be Lessons in Making Love if Sensei is chosen to teach anything
But I think observing Sensei learning love might really be the key concept here; a person who claims to have trouble comprehending what love means is now experiencing all kinds of love from all his relationship with everyone and learning them: pure, unconditional, unrequited, codependent, obsessive, manipulative, adulterous, forbidden, and incestuous.
It's just who actually is observing is still up in the air (maybe it's all those supernatural BS beings perhaps?)
HOPE at least seems to have a clear idea of what "love" means. The other two aren't as clear, but they seem to be competing over Akira rather than trying to learn from him. Maybe they're all using him as proof of their view to some fourth entity(fifth really, I don't think the entity could be Nao). Long Maya keeps doing television show bits with Akira, maybe she really is showing that to somebody?
Also, we the players are that entity, and the true meaning of love is not pirating video games.
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Kind of dark, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if the homeless people turn out to be the kids that Sensei has had with his students. Just never being reset by the time loops, and continuously aging in a city that has no care nor space for them. I think old women were mentioned at some point so them being the men would be a little surprising.
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Personally, I think whatever is taking Sekai's form may be the main being wanting to know "love". Taking Sekai's form due to being Sensei's first love interest if not "true love". Nozomu, HOPE, and the angels may just be it's servants or creations.It would be Lessons in Making Love if Sensei is chosen to teach anything
But I think observing Sensei learning love might really be the key concept here; a person who claims to have trouble comprehending what love means is now experiencing all kinds of love from all his relationship with everyone and learning them: pure, unconditional, unrequited, codependent, obsessive, manipulative, adulterous, forbidden, and incestuous.
It's just who actually is observing is still up in the air (maybe it's all those supernatural BS beings perhaps?)
Nao, seems like a similar being but instead of learning love, it's more into feeling love. Hence the whole you have copulated with me more than anyone, and knowing everything Sensei ever felt, lines. The god of wires and maybe Pareidolia seem to be related to it.
Of course, Nao and whatever is taking Sekai's form could be two sides of the same being, or Nao is like it's child, which would fit the whole taking Sekai and Ami forms theme.
Overall, there's definitely a lot of unanswered questions. Albeit, I think this next reset might answer quite a few. Especially since things look like they are about to get rough.
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