Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

And while i'm with you in regard to psycho Ami's behavior, she was never related to the term itself, was she? Or how do you come to refering her to that?

A few things, and some of them are theories, to be clear. The comparison is mostly metaphorical.

This Ami is not the real Ami. I'm fairly certain the real Ami died in the accident, and Akira is too blinded by grief to realize this. Either something else has taken her form, or something is possessing her.

During Life of Prizes, we get a lot of information about the cuckoo that doesn't go anywhere. Granted, we get a lot of information in this game in general that doesn't go anywhere (120 pages on coffee beans), but the specific information about cuckoos felt like it had a "this is important" tag to it. Specifically -- mother cuckoos in many breeds do not keep their own nests. They instead visit another bird's nest after their eggs have been laid while the mother is a way and lays one egg in it. Cuckoo's pre-incubate their eggs before laying them, so this egg will hatch before any of the the others, and after hatching, the chick will push all the other eggs out of the nest, relying upon the mother's maternal instincts to get all the nurturing and sustenance for itself.

How does this relate to Ami? Ami is doing everything she can to keep the nest (harem) empty, and depending upon Akira's instincts to protect and nurture the last little bit of Sekai left in the world.

So when i say she's a cuckoo, I don't mean she's literally one, just that she's a not-entirely-human entity acting in a similar manner to one.

 

[crustlord12]

Yeah I'm with you 100% on this. I don't really see any strong evidence suggesting that Ami hasn't been a total psycho the entire time and I see a ton of evidence that she's completely fucked in the head going all the way back to the earliest parts of the game.

I've been thinking about this too. Maybe she is aware of Akira "resetting" the same way every time, and has "pre-planned" her opening greeting scenario in the classroom over and over again like the intro to that game Prey (2017)

 

[DeSkel15]

I don't think she was exactly as young as wizard age back then but yeah...

She was at least 11 or younger. Noriko mentioned it had been almost 5 years since the tutoring:

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and most students are around 15. I think Maya's actually one of the younger girls in class though.

Noriko also confirmed they had a fucked up relationship back then:

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There's also the pictures of Maya that Sensei has.. and well, tbh, I doubt Sensei getting back his memories of then will go down well. It's probably why being with Maya breaks him.

 

[JelF547]

One thing I'm curious about is how long Chinami would have left if we're assuming the worst. Cause I remember her having a fever and it went away with the next reset.

We have meta information that there is Chinami ending so there is an easy answer: till the end of game.

(If "Our Time Atop This Mattress" Chinami flag does not matter )

 

[DeSkel15]

That’s what I thought as well when discussing her apartment plan, Tusbasa reminded Sensei not to ever look at Tsukasa the improper way and he immediately denied such possibility.

And I am like are you sure??? Aren’t you like, been there done that with a certain smol gurl

Technically, that was the "Original" Sensei, not "Current" Sensei, but yeah... here's hoping that Sensei's development doesn't revert when he regains certain memories.

 

[Riolol]

A few things, and some of them are theories, to be clear. The comparison is mostly metaphorical.

This Ami is not the real Ami. I'm fairly certain the real Ami died in the accident, and Akira is too blinded by grief to realize this. Either something else has taken her form, or something is possessing her.

During Life of Prizes, we get a lot of information about the cuckoo that doesn't go anywhere. Granted, we get a lot of information in this game in general that doesn't go anywhere (120 pages on coffee beans), but the specific information about cuckoos felt like it had a "this is important" tag to it. Specifically -- mother cuckoos in many breeds do not keep their own nests. They instead visit another bird's nest after their eggs have been laid while the mother is a way and lays one egg in it. Cuckoo's pre-incubate their eggs before laying them, so this egg will hatch before any of the the others, and after hatching, the chick will push all the other eggs out of the nest, relying upon the mother's maternal instincts to get all the nurturing and sustenance for itself.

How does this relate to Ami? Ami is doing everything she can to keep the nest (harem) empty, and depending upon Akira's instincts to protect and nurture the last little bit of Sekai left in the world.

So when i say she's a cuckoo, I don't mean she's literally one, just that she's a not-entirely-human entity acting in a similar manner to one.

I think if Ami died in the crash Niki and Noriko would know about it. The cuckoo thing could still work since she is not (as far as we know) Akira's child. It could be related to Nao possessing her.

 

[JelF547]

and most students are around 15. I think Maya's actually one of the younger girls in class though.

Wiki says that "Maya is currently the eighth youngest member of the cast". It is strange, because her birthday is in January

Edit: Nevermind, looks like I misunderstood japanese education system rules

 

[KnowNoHope]

Wiki says that "Maya is currently the eighth youngest member of the cast". It is strange, because her birthday is in January

she was also 'tutored' and considered 'gifted'. skipped grades or tested out of a grade to be put in a higher one maybe
her being called a 'nerd' i think is a throwback habit from before the resets
cause she doesn't come across as one now

 

[JelF547]

skipped grades or tested out of a grade to be put in a higher one maybe

I barely googled and it looks like it is imposible until you spend two years in high school

 

[KnowNoHope]

I barely googled and it looks like it is impossible until you spend two years in high school

in japan? cool, never even thought i would need to look it up, most places let you test out of something, probably just took it for granted
cool for double checking that

 

[DeSkel15]

One thing I'm curious about is how long Chinami would have left if we're assuming the worst. Cause I remember her having a fever and it went away with the next reset.

Chika might not even meet Tsubasa if it weren't for her relationship with Sensei tbh, but assuming that Chika would eventually swallow her pride and take her to a better apartment even if she's not in a "relationship" with Sensei, then she'd probably have a chance to lead a normal life.

Chika has a rich sugar mommy (Tsubasa), and a rich princess as a friend (Tookie Tookie), now. Both of which are incredibly caring towards her. Chika and Chinami could likely live quite well, if Chika swallows her pride. I'm not sure if they could do much for Chinami's health, but they could definitely let her live a far safer and more fun life until the end.

Definitely hoping that Sensei eventually goes god mode and fixes Chinami up though. Same with the rest of the girls and their issues.

 

[JelF547]

Definitely hoping that Sensei eventually goes god mode and fixes Chinami up though. Same with the rest of the girls and their issues.

God mod Sensei would be a really good ending. Hope this is "True ending" Selebus anounced

 

[JelF547]

in japan? cool, never even thought i would need to look it up, most places let you test out of something, probably just took it for granted

Japanese education system actualy looks incredibly good. I read about it few months ago and was quiet impressed

 

[BlackDays]

To add more to the confusion about who is lying and or not to be trusted.

Ch2 last main event (after reset four): Utinam Ne Illum Numquam Conspexissem (latin) -> (english) if only i had never seen him. (who might be "him"?)

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Akira's birthday in spring?

So there's a high probability that those silhouettes belong to: Ayane, Sekai, Maya and Ami.
If you look what they are saying, they even kind of behave like them.
While there are other "datamined" hints to that.

The question is, if Akira is hallucinating the whole event.
But even "if" he is hallucinating it, it would still point out that those four are special.

If he's not then it "could" mean that none of those are to be trusted.

 

[Kitty Hawk]

God mod Sensei would be a really good ending. Hope this is "True ending" Selebus anounced

Essentially this will be a "Groundhog day" ending.
As protagonist helps everyone he is able to get a true love and escape time loops

 

[KnowNoHope]

To add more to the confusion about who is lying and or not to be trusted.

Ch2 last main event (after reset four): Utinam Ne Illum Numquam Conspexissem (latin) -> (english) if only i had never seen him. (who might be "him"?)

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Akira's birthday in spring?

So there's a high probability that those silhouettes belong to: Ayane, Sekai, Maya and Ami.
If you look what they are saying, they even kind of behave like them.
While there are other "datamined" hints to that.

The question is, if Akira is hallucinating the whole event.
But even "if" he is hallucinating it, it would still point out that those four are special.

If he's not then it "could" mean that none of those are to be trusted.

last event, the poem indicated ayane is the only one you can trust.
lots of talk about it maybe meaning a different girl that wears blue...
but considering the entire multistage event and poem seemed specific to that event, its more likely referencing ayane
it also implies by proximity to the conversation... that maya might be lying or omitting something she said regarding ami

 

[BlackDays]

She was at least 11 or younger. Noriko mentioned it had been almost 5 years since the tutoring:

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and most students are around 15. I think Maya's actually one of the younger girls in class though.

Noriko also confirmed they had a fucked up relationship back then:

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There's also the pictures of Maya that Sensei has.. and well, tbh, I doubt Sensei getting back his memories of then will go down well. It's probably why being with Maya breaks him.

Not saying you're wrong with the ages.
But i do think all of them are at least 16.
We already saw lots of implications that they are around that age.
But what would make it more likely are the legal (rl) implications.
There's a fine line with the whole depiction of minors in art and what not.
16 might just be Sel's safety measures in that regard.

 

[DeSkel15]

God mod Sensei would be a really good ending. Hope this is "True ending" Selebus anounced

Same. Here's hoping God Sensei is a benevolent god though. For all we know, he might just turn the rest of the cast into fuckpuppets and that's that.

Might even come down to the girl with the most affection points trying to convince him of what to do with his power.

 

[DeSkel15]

Not saying your wrong with the ages.
But i do think all of them are at least 16.
We already saw lots of implications that they are around that age.
But what would make it more likely are the legal (rl) implications.
There's a fine line with the whole depiction of minors in art and what not.
16 might just be Sel's safety measures in that regard.

Chika and Karin are 16, and Karin's a second year, while Chika got held back one year. Some might become 16 before the year resets though.

Also it's cartoons... Still, I don't recommend checking out the care packages.

 

[JelF547]

We already saw lots of implications that they are around that age.

They actualy are around 16 if we asume that resets started in autumn, because they all already was 15 in april. And every birthday we see in game should be at least 16th birthday, if we ignore that time is fucked up.