Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Damn... that a lot more Maya knowledge then i had before, it all fits pretty damn well too... so, another kid rape victim... how does she rationalise that with Akira being a pedo too? Like, sure, she calls him disgusting but she still loves him, a guy who does what was done to her, or close enough to it to count.

Pedophile, Ephebophile, etc, and Rapist aren't the same thing. Maya seemed to want the relationship with Sensei. He seemed to make her feel loved, and she's spent 1000+ years wanting it back. I don't think she wanted whatever happened to her prior. (If anything did, it's not entirely confirmed)

Overall: I doubt she sees Sensei as a rapist in anyway that bothers her. Albeit, past versions of him are a different story. Some seemed less benevolent than current or original Sensei.

 

[Bingoogus]

Pedophile, Ephebophile, etc, and Rapist aren't the same thing.

Yeah but like i said, it's close enough to count as far as her own history is concerned, and yet she loves him despite that, i'm curious how she rationalizes that, i'd want to ask her that, her answer would be interesting no matter what direction she takes it in.

 

[AbsoluteA522]

Yeah but like i said, it's close enough to count as far as her own history is concerned, and yet she loves him despite that, i'm curious how she rationalizes that, i'd want to ask her that, her answer would be interesting no matter what direction she takes it in.

Maybe the reason why she doesn't care is because she also did many horrible things to previous senseis.(i remember her mentioning that she once fuked a sensei to death or to insanity) so if she were to hold him for his actions that would make her a hypocrite?

 

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Another card, this is look Kirin from a date, because of different eyes

 

[saerav]

I always assumed that was amiokay since Maya is I think the only girl who frequently sits in this seiza pose. There isn't a solid answer for this one I believe, only conjectures; but whoever that is probably is only as important as just to spook/confuse you

Chest size and butt i'd say Maya.

Oh yeah, that does make sense. My initial guess was also Maya, but I kinda hazily dismissed it cause i was thinking why the hell would Maya be there

 

[Bingoogus]

Oh yeah, that does make sense. My initial guess was also Maya, but I kinda hazily dismissed it cause i was thinking why the hell would Maya be there

Always be careful when discounting Maya, she has so many doppelgangers that discounting her discounts multiple possibilities at the same time.

 

[JLP603]

All these events of suggesting the posibility that ami is the one creating the fake world due to the hardships and suffering she went though at the cost of her wellbeing so she can be happy with the one she loves despite him not loving her... Suddenly made me think of Kagami Sumika from Muv-Luv again... dmn

 

[Merlk]

Hello- I am a bit new to this lore talk so i don't really know how to start so i will just jump into it

One thing i reacted to was the fact when we found Nao, we go the inner dialogue of a metaphorical car crashing into a wall and revealing the sitcom gods Wire and Nozomu, and while i am not fully sure the ''Voice inside ones' head'' as he says would perhaps also count? Hasn't it been many times recently that Sensei has pointed himself out as the lone architecht for a reality he wanted? And curious it is that they're mentioned when we find a girl encompassing both Maya and Ami in some way. Are the gods perhaps just wishes(which seem to also be referenced a lot) manifested.

Granted, a lot of this could be plain out wrong, which would be completely fine. I am very much welcoming any more God lore there is. They intrigue me and i would really want to understand their influence onto the characters, especially whether or not Yasu follows Nozomu or someone else completely

alright i am done now rant over.

 

[saerav]

I'm replaying the game right now and I have like a much better feeling for what's going on. I have kind of a theory but I've been holding off on posting anything about it until I complete the replay and pic related is how I've been feeling

 

[wamzzz]

All these events of suggesting the posibility that ami is the one creating the fake world due to the hardships and suffering she went though at the cost of her wellbeing so she can be happy with the one she loves despite him not loving her... Suddenly made me think of Kagami Sumika from Muv-Luv again... dmn

I remember that when I first started playing I got the impression that something had recently happened that completely broke and shattered Sensei which is what caused him to jump at the very beginning. I kept thinking that the whole world was either his brain trying to fix himself as he was in a comatose state in a hospital or that somehow Maya had created the world to heal him but had since been punished for trying to do so(This was mostly because of how cryptic maya was and all the knowledge she seemed to have but refused to provide). I think the latter theory doesn't really work anymore too well anymore due to all the supernatural stuff unless the theory about Maya being some sort of fallen angel turns out to be correct.

To be fair, I think I also took the first happy event a little too literally so I thought that maybe Maya was actually just a husk filled with always hungry spiders which explained how she never liked letting people see her eat but also that she just devoured everything in an instant. That happy event also let me think that she was being punished off-camera which is what we were seeing and then further compounded how she feels and reacts to Sensei.

I feel like I need to replay it now that I understand a lot more about the lore and the world to see how my impressions have changed or to see anything else I might have missed or not understood at the time.

 

[saerav]

I remember that when I first started playing I got the impression that something had recently happened that completely broke and shattered Sensei which is what caused him to jump at the very beginning. I kept thinking that the whole world was either his brain trying to fix himself as he was in a comatose state in a hospital or that somehow Maya had created the world to heal him but had since been punished for trying to do so(This was mostly because of how cryptic maya was and all the knowledge she seemed to have but refused to provide). I think the latter theory doesn't really work anymore too well anymore due to all the supernatural stuff unless the theory about Maya being some sort of fallen angel turns out to be correct.

To be fair, I think I also took the first happy event a little too literally so I thought that maybe Maya was actually just a husk filled with always hungry spiders which explained how she never liked letting people see her eat but also that she just devoured everything in an instant. That happy event also let me think that she was being punished off-camera which is what we were seeing and then further compounded how she feels and reacts to Sensei.

I feel like I need to replay it now that I understand a lot more about the lore and the world to see how my impressions have changed or to see anything else I might have missed or not understood at the time.

It's definitely the type of game that makes a lot more sense on a 2nd playthrough (especially since i skipped a LOT of lines the 1st time around), you catch a lot of foreshadowing of future events or interesting reactions from characters to certain lines that you can deduce meaning from given future revelations. That's why I'm extra careful about catching stuff that I don't know anything about, but might be a foreshadowing of a future reveal in my 2nd playthrough.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Damn... that a lot more Maya knowledge then i had before, it all fits pretty damn well too... so, another kid rape victim... how does she rationalise that with Akira being a pedo too? Like, sure, she calls him disgusting but she still loves him, a guy who does what was done to her, or close enough to it to count.

Maybe something akin to Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[saerav]

2 questions:

a) Does anyone know if the poem at the start of "I will deliver you to the fireflies" is a real work or a poem made by Selebus? Because it's quite beautiful and I can't find anything about it online (all mentions of Lenore seem to refer me to Allan Edgar Poe's poem by the same name but it's a different poem which this one only references I think).
b) Are there any translations for lyrics of Noriko's guitar song and littlebunny.mp3?

3rd bonus question: Could anyone give me a list of all events involving the 3rd god? I'm banking all my hopes on DeSkel15 if anyone can

 

[Bingoogus]

Spoiler: Best shot in the entire game.

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Spoiler: Favourite running gag.

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Spoiler: Always kills me.

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[barglenarglezous]

2 questions:

a) Does anyone know if the poem at the start of "I will deliver you to the fireflies" is a real work or a poem made by Selebus? Because it's quite beautiful and I can't find anything about it online (all mentions of Lenore seem to refer me to Allan Edgar Poe's poem by the same name but it's a different poem which this one only references I think).
b) Are there any translations for lyrics of Noriko's guitar song and littlebunny.mp3?

3rd bonus question: Could anyone give me a list of all events involving the 3rd god? I'm banking all my hopes on DeSkel15 if anyone can

Selebus does write some of the poetry in the game. If searching for an in-game poem by googling a full line or two doesn't yield any results, it's probably a Selebus original.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Just been watching a particularly difficult quiz show on TV where I live and it turns out that Watermelons are an aphrodisiac. I don't know whether thats been discussed here before but if this is the case it could throw a whole other light on Maya's fondness for the fruit, especially if Selebus is aware of this already.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

2 questions:

a) Does anyone know if the poem at the start of "I will deliver you to the fireflies" is a real work or a poem made by Selebus? Because it's quite beautiful and I can't find anything about it online (all mentions of Lenore seem to refer me to Allan Edgar Poe's poem by the same name but it's a different poem which this one only references I think).
b) Are there any translations for lyrics of Noriko's guitar song and littlebunny.mp3?

3rd bonus question: Could anyone give me a list of all events involving the 3rd god? I'm banking all my hopes on DeSkel15 if anyone can

b) Little bunny with eng subtitles:

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3rd god event (characterized by lower case sentenses, or any mention of the name Concerned or USER3)

Spoiler: Main

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Spoiler: Happy

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Spoiler: Yumi

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Spoiler: Sana

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Spoiler: Molly

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No guarantee that these are all of them despite spying on the 3rd god being one of my great interest in the game

 

[zoyle]

Pardon me for this question, as I know I could read a huge amount of the thread and figure it out, I understand it's quite a ways back.

I haven't played this in quite a while; I like to tend to allow a lot of content to build up before I play.

I understand there's been some crazy shit going on in here with the creator. Can someone get me a summary and information about how to proceed? Why is this always marked as last updated 3 years ago in the tracker when it's still getting new updates? If people don't want this re-hashed in the thread for what I iamgine is like the 80th time, feel free to send me a DM or just direct me to a previous summary post. I'd appreciate it.

 

[Bingoogus]

If people don't want this re-hashed in the thread for what I iamgine is like the 80th time

83rd.

 

[saerav]

b) Little bunny with eng subtitles:

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3rd god event (characterized by lower case sentenses, or any mention of the name Concerned or USER3)

Spoiler: Main

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Spoiler: Happy

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Spoiler: Yumi

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Spoiler: Sana

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Spoiler: Molly

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No guarantee that these are all of them despite spying on the 3rd god being one of my great interest in the game

Thank you a bunch for this!!!!