Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[Pedro4545454]

Eh, based off how Pareidolia has acted in Chapter 4 so far, I wouldn't consider it the least Callous. Calling Maya Prime a bitch:

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Mocking Sensei:

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And implying if he doesn't straighten up, Pareidolia will take more from him:

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A Narrator even seemed scared of Pareidolia, yet still seemed to go behind it's back, risking themself to warn Sensei that God is using him:

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This Narrator may have even been The Shapeshifter, albeit it's not clear.

Meanwhile, the so called Callous god has casually healed Sensei just because it could:

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Frankly, I've wondered it for awhile but perhaps Pareidolia has fucked up which god is which. Manipulated the perception of things. In other words: The Concerned god aka Pareidolia may actually be the Callous god, while The Callous god aka HOPE, Yasu's god, etc, is the true Concerned god.

That's a whole other can of worms that could change so much, though.

Now that you brought up the subject, Pareidolia in the short time he appeared showed himself to be quite insensitive towards Akira and Maya while Hope, even though he was disappointed with Akira, he didn't punish him, Hope just abandoned him and didn't punish him. And there's another thing, Hope was even preparing Sana for Akira so he could take what doesn't belong to him and help Akira.

How many things could we have thought were Hoper speaking insensitively and were actually Paredolia? so much so that Paredolia revealed that he can keep changing the dialogues and the ways he speaks, so there is a high chance that we are being deceived as to which god has his titles and which one is really on Akira's side.

And another thing is that Yasu always mentions that Hopper wants to help Akira and even in the scene that shows that Hopper is getting stressed with Akira he doesn't do anything to punish him, Hopper always had a chance to punish Akira for not do what he asks and still didn't do anything.

And another one on Halloween who controlled Akira to abuse Molly and controlled him to force Yumi was Wire/USER 2 since it was in his city and doing this resulted in even more trauma for Akira and seeing that it wasn't Hopper who did it This is very strange since from "his" dialogues he is the one who would have the courage to do this and from what I remember it could be wrong but I think that Hopper spo controlled Akira only once.

So if Hopper is really on Akira's side it will be a good plot twist and if so I apologize for the thousands of swear words I hurled at Hopper.

Thanks DesKel, you gave me something to review the events of the game and a very important theory to think about

 

[Unseenatlas]

Now that you brought up the subject, Pareidolia in the short time he appeared showed himself to be quite insensitive towards Akira and Maya while Hope, even though he was disappointed with Akira, he didn't punish him, Hope just abandoned him and didn't punish him. And there's another thing, Hope was even preparing Sana for Akira so he could take what doesn't belong to him and help Akira.

How many things could we have thought were Hoper speaking insensitively and were actually Paredolia? so much so that Paredolia revealed that he can keep changing the dialogues and the ways he speaks, so there is a high chance that we are being deceived as to which god has his titles and which one is really on Akira's side.

And another thing is that Yasu always mentions that Hopper wants to help Akira and even in the scene that shows that Hopper is getting stressed with Akira he doesn't do anything to punish him, Hopper always had a chance to punish Akira for not do what he asks and still didn't do anything.

And another one on Halloween who controlled Akira to abuse Molly and controlled him to force Yumi was Wire/USER 2 since it was in his city and doing this resulted in even more trauma for Akira and seeing that it wasn't Hopper who did it This is very strange since from "his" dialogues he is the one who would have the courage to do this and from what I remember it could be wrong but I think that Hopper spo controlled Akira only once.

So if Hopper is really on Akira's side it will be a good plot twist and if so I apologize for the thousands of swear words I hurled at Hopper.

Thanks DesKel, you gave me something to review the events of the game and a very important theory to think about

Eh, based off how Pareidolia has acted in Chapter 4 so far, I wouldn't consider it the least Callous. Calling Maya Prime a bitch:

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Mocking Sensei:

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And implying if he doesn't straighten up, Pareidolia will take more from him:

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A Narrator even seemed scared of Pareidolia, yet still seemed to go behind it's back, risking themself to warn Sensei that God is using him:

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This Narrator may have even been The Shapeshifter, albeit it's not clear.

Meanwhile, the so called Callous god has casually healed Sensei just because it could:

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Frankly, I've wondered it for awhile but perhaps Pareidolia has fucked up which god is which. Manipulated the perception of things. In other words: The Concerned god aka Pareidolia may actually be the Callous god, while The Callous god aka HOPE, Yasu's god, etc, is the true Concerned god.

That's a whole other can of worms that could change so much, though.

Personally I think it's Pareidolia getting his stress out, seeing as he had to apparently wait much much much longer then Maya. Tbh if I was waiting for trillions of "years or resets" and I heard someone complaining about a measly 20 thousand or so id also be kinda snappy with them. He literally got to us only to find out that we are broken. Also, he gave us actual time to grieve rather than just saying "boom" and healing you. I think that they all can do certain things at certain times. I'm not saying that Pareidolia will be good but I don't think he is the callous one either.
Hope I think is playing a risky game like hitogami from mushoku tensei where he builds up trust before making one betrayal that collapses everything.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Personally I think it's Pareidolia getting his stress out, seeing as he had to apparently wait much much much longer then Maya. Tbh if I was waiting for trillions of "years or resets" and I heard someone complaining about a measly 20 thousand or so id also be kinda snappy with them. He literally got to us only to find out that we are broken. Also, he gave us actual time to grieve rather than just saying "boom" and healing you. I think that they all can do certain things at certain times. I'm not saying that Pareidolia will be good but I don't think he is the callous one either.
Hope I think is playing a risky game like hitogami from mushoku tensei where he builds up trust before making one betrayal that collapses everything.

A tip, be like me, don't trust these gods at all and wish them dead every day because then you won't have the chance to regret trusting them

And another, Akira is broken like this BECAUSE of Paredolia because he was the one who took Maya from Akira, making him break, him allowing Akira to mourn for a while is the least, so no, he wasn't being nice to Akira.

And another he was insensitive towards Akira and Maya since he showed up so no this doesn't seem like a release of anger because he's been waiting for trillions of years it's more like his personal grudge with them both so much so that he always offends Akira and Maya .

 

[korendrd]

Wakana seems more depressed than usual and where are these images from? main events or generic?

My bet's on generics. They were posted the same day the completed generics count on the v0.37 progress tracker went from 28 to 37.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Curiosity about Maya, in the same way that Akira sees these "copy" versions of her pixelated, Maya does the same thing with copies of Akira

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[DeSkel15]

Personally I think it's Pareidolia getting his stress out, seeing as he had to apparently wait much much much longer then Maya. Tbh if I was waiting for trillions of "years or resets" and I heard someone complaining about a measly 20 thousand or so id also be kinda snappy with them. He literally got to us only to find out that we are broken. Also, he gave us actual time to grieve rather than just saying "boom" and healing you. I think that they all can do certain things at certain times. I'm not saying that Pareidolia will be good but I don't think he is the callous one either.
Hope I think is playing a risky game like hitogami from mushoku tensei where he builds up trust before making one betrayal that collapses everything.

Pareidolia seems to be the one that broke Sensei in the first place, and plans on him becoming the Collector afterwards:

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I don't think Pareidolia has much actual power without Sensei, hence the whole "you have to trust me" and "I'm the only one who knows how to use you" stuff:

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Even in it's season, where it should be at it's strongest, it's still trying to convince Sensei to choose it:

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Not to mention, threatening to take more from Sensei to get him back in action:

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If Pareidolia actually could just do whatever it wanted with Sensei, it probably would. It's likely only "letting" him grieve, because it has to.

Like Pareidolia has said:

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Pareidolia's actual power also seems to revolve around manipulation. It doesn't seem to have the same level of raw power as the others. At least not yet.

 

[DeSkel15]

Btw, not sure if it's been mentioned, but everything that has happened since the last beach trip, has been with Sensei connected to Pareidolia:

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(You have to allow it or the game shuts off)

Also, just kind of realized Pareidolia may have tricked Sensei and Us into giving it power. The "will you allow it?" Is already in lower case, which isn't how that usually works, implying it is actually Pareidolia saying this.

Anyway, if you were wondering why shit went wrong after the 'Flowerchild' Chapter 3 Main Event, well, Sensei never disconnected from Pareidolia as far as I recall, and probably still hasn't. USER3 is probably still connected.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Btw, not sure if it's been mentioned, but everything that has happened since the last beach trip, has been with Sensei connected to Pareidolia:

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(You have to allow it or the game shuts off)

Also, just kind of realized Pareidolia may have tricked Sensei and Us into giving it power. The "will you allow it?" Is already in lower case, which isn't how that usually works, implying it is actually Pareidolia saying this.

Anyway, if you were wondering why shit went wrong after the 'Flowerchild' Chapter 3 Main Event, well, Sensei never disconnected from Pareidolia as far as I recall, and probably still hasn't. USER3 is probably still connected.

I think that paredolia is like a weak god but he uses intelligence to his advantage to overcome this so much so that when he removed Maya from Akira he said that if he wanted Maya back he would have to follow him thus having control over Akira.

 

[Kitty Hawk]

It really looks like Sensei is some kind of glitchy computer:

-likes to connect to things by inserting his plug;

-when he connects into Maya's socket gets his data corrupted/corrupts her;

-freezes and acts on "autopilot";

-has graphic artifacts;

-gets hacked and taken over by malware to get his processing power used;

-seems to be often purged by a complete systemic reboot.

 

[Angra Shadow]

Pareidolia seems to be the one that broke Sensei in the first place, and plans on him becoming the Collector afterwards:

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I don't think Pareidolia has much actual power without Sensei, hence the whole "you have to trust me" and "I'm the only one who knows how to use you" stuff:

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Even in it's season, where it should be at it's strongest, it's still trying to convince Sensei to choose it:

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Not to mention, threatening to take more from Sensei to get him back in action:

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If Pareidolia actually could just do whatever it wanted with Sensei, it probably would. It's likely only "letting" him grieve, because it has to.

Like Pareidolia has said:

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Pareidolia's actual power also seems to revolve around manipulation. It doesn't seem to have the same level of raw power as the others. At least not yet.

This would all fit with Pareidolia/Concerned being "a voice in his head" if this analogy applies to the Trinity

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[Pedro4545454]

It really looks like Sensei is some kind of glitchy computer:

-likes to connect to things by inserting his plug;

-when he connects into Maya's socket gets his data corrupted/corrupts her;

-freezes and acts on "autopilot";

-has graphic artifacts;

-gets hacked and taken over by malware to get his processing power used;

-seems to be often purged by a complete systemic reboot.

*Confirmed that Akira is an artificial intelligence with problems*

 

[rianzz]

Shhh, it'll be okay. This is gonna be the last frame of the game, keep believing that. View attachment 3278538

If this is the end of the game I can die peacefully and happily

 

[Pedro4545454]

If this is the end of the game I can die peacefully and happily

It would be wonderful if in this image she was saying "I love you Akira" If this were the last image of the game I would die in peace without worrying about anything else in the world.

 

[Vizer007]

If this is the end of the game I can die peacefully and happily

The more I hear about this, the more I think that Sel will make her into some manipulative villain in the end, just to fuck with us and make us look like idiots for falling for her tricks and laugh at us for not noticing that those boxes that we helped her carry was full of evil mustaches she had to shave off to keep the good facade.

By the way, evil mustaches aside, what if the thing in those boxes was her feeling that she had to "transfer" to not go nuts, and what, ultimately, made all girls fall in love with us?

 

[rianzz]

Quick question. What's your opinion on Pareidolia? Good, bad, in between? Do you trust them or not? Do you think they will betray Akira or not?


Personal op is that they are in between. They are good for Sensei but will also use bad methods to achieve good things. Personally I trust Pareidolia for now but do think that they will in turn betray Akira in one way or another.

i think he's a bitch

 

[rianzz]

It would be wonderful if in this image she was saying "I love you Akira" If this were the last image of the game I would die in peace without worrying about anything else in the world.

If this is the end it will have been worth suffering for so many years at the hands of Selly

 

[Pedro4545454]

Quick question. What's your opinion on Pareidolia?

For me he is the god who looked at us and said "I'm going to make you Maya fans wish something worse than hell for me" and since then I wish something worse than hell for him

If this is the end it will have been worth suffering for so many years at the hands of Selly

I fully expect Maya's Route in this game, it's a shame it's only going to happen in 6 to 8 years ha ha ha.........

 

[Pedro4545454]

DesKel, you who are omniscient about them, do the gods have their genders confirmed?


It's just difficult to write and not remember what the genre is.

 

[Angra Shadow]

The more I hear about this, the more I think that Sel will make her into some manipulative villain in the end, just to fuck with us and make us look like idiots for falling for her tricks and laugh at us for not noticing that those boxes that we helped her carry was full of evil mustaches she had to shave off to keep the good facade.

I think that would be a pretty cheap twist tbh. The story has built up Maya and Akira's relationship way too much for it to be not genuine. What I think the twist (which is hardly a twist at this point with how many hints we've had) will be Akira realizing that he did the same thing to her that Sekai did to him, which might have been the realization that led him to suicide in the first place.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

DesKel, you who are omniscient about them, do the gods have their genders confirmed?


It's just difficult to write and not remember what the genre is.

The unknown narrator used the pronoun "He" to refer to the first and the second god in Rewrite and There is Nothing, respectively.

The same narrator used "it" to refer to the third god in Word of the Day, and I can't recall if any other event that has third god's presence in there ever uses specific pronouns (since almost always it's pareidolia talking directly to you during those moments)

Also, completely unrelated, sneaking in one of my favorite quotes from George Carlin