Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[Pedro4545454]

I think that would be a pretty cheap twist tbh. The story has built up Maya and Akira's relationship way too much for it to be not genuine. What I think the twist (which is hardly a twist at this point with how many hints we've had) will be Akira realizing that he did the same thing to her that Sekai did to him, which might have been the realization that led him to suicide in the first place.

As long as Akira doesn't kill himself at the end of this game I can say that I'll be fine, now if that happens I'll be the one going into autopilot mode

The unknown narrator used the pronoun "He" to refer to the first and the second god in Rewrite and There is Nothing, respectively.

The same narrator used "it" to refer to the third god in Word of the Day, and I can't recall if any other event that has third god's presence in there ever uses specific pronouns (since almost always it's pareidolia talking directly to you during those moments)

Thanks for the answer

 

[DeSkel15]

DesKel, you who are omniscient about them, do the gods have their genders confirmed?


It's just difficult to write and not remember what the genre is.

Kind of.

• The Callous god tends to be referred to as He and apparently has/had a giant light-penis. Yasu also uses male pronouns in reference to her god, and HOPE is apparently "Everyone's Father":
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• USER2/The Wire god was referred to as he by the Narrator that introduced it, in the 'There is Nothing' Chapter 1 Main Event:
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  It also seemed to have a male voice in the 'Word of The Day' Chapter 2 Main Event.
• Pareidolia on the other hand doesn't seem to have a notable gender, as far as I can recall. Simply referred to as it:
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As for other beings:

• Nao seems to prefer being female based off it taking Ami's form, but it can apparently be whatever it wants:
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• The World Itself seems to prefer being female based off it presumably taking Sekai's form, but Yasu referred to it as well, it. It's also apparently the last of it's kind according to Yasu:
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• The Old One is referred to with male pronouns:

  Yeah, That's "The Old One":

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  It's shown up a bit:

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[Dc345]

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[crustlord12]

I think that would be a pretty cheap twist tbh. The story has built up Maya and Akira's relationship way too much for it to be not genuine. What I think the twist (which is hardly a twist at this point with how many hints we've had) will be Akira realizing that he did the same thing to her that Sekai did to him, which might have been the realization that led him to suicide in the first place.

I think it comes down to how much Sel wants to preserve his original story vs how much disdain he carries for his audience. And I'd call that a tie at the moment.

 

[gazgiz]

Are there any theories that Tsuneyo's father is User2//The Wire god that have been floating around?

I don't ever see this screen grab when The Old One is brought up, but I'm pretty sure the first time we see him. It's a shadow on the ground in the background of Baby Finches.

 

[blackredfish]

As long as Akira doesn't kill himself at the end of this game I can say that I'll be fine

I'll be very surprised if he's not dead at the very end. Consider the following: we will have the purity routes for every girl just to lead to the so called "one true ending". What can this entail exactly? A Harem ending is absolutely discarded... it can't be either an ending with his "one true love", that's what the purity routes are for (unless Selebus reeeally wants to play favorites here), if he can't have all the girls he won't get any.

So, we are left with: a) a straight bad ending (where he's dead, a slave for eternity or whatever you want to imagine); or b) bittersweet endings, like the girls breaking the cycle and being able to finally move on from him. The question is, can some of them really do that if he's still around? I doubt it. Also, him being alone forever wouldn't make sense either. Therefore, he needs to go. Sorry, it's not like I'm trying to get you worried over your other favorite character... really, I'm a nice guy... unlike that hexadecimal bastard. But imo his chances of surviving are very slim. I think his passing would force the girls to either move forward or get stuck in their grievings, I can see a few trying to wish him back at the end (Maya among them).

Or maybe...

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[barglenarglezous]

I'll be very surprised if he's not dead at the very end.

It is entirely possible that he's already dead and this is his purgatory.

 

[crustlord12]

It is entirely possible that he's already dead and this is his purgatory.

I think something in a similar vein that he can't die right now, the gods simply would not allow it

 

[Wardtnaci]

With all the talk about Maya Prime...
What if Maya Prime, who existed for thousands if loops, is not THE Maya Prime? What if the real Maya Prime is the Maya who is HOPE's prisoner in the sexual overstimulation torture device? Or the Maya who was crucified? Or any of the Other Mayas we were shown in the numerous Happy Events other than Long Maya, "Youdidit" Maya and Moyo. Just something to think about.

 

[Unseenatlas]

With all the talk about Maya Prime...
What if Maya Prime, who existed for thousands if loops, is not THE Maya Prime? What if the real Maya Prime is the Maya who is HOPE's prisoner in the sexual overstimulation torture device? Or the Maya who was crucified? Or any of the Other Mayas we were shown in the numerous Happy Events other than Long Maya, "Youdidit" Maya and Moyo. Just something to think about.

I was actually just thinking about that. Hope also captured a version of Sensei and had him on a torture device as well as what appeared to be an infinite loop of what appears to be him raping Maya. Hope also states in the 4th reset end of world that Maya does not exist. It then states that there is no heaven for rapists(something that Akira believes he is.)

 

[DeSkel15]

I'll be very surprised if he's not dead at the very end. Consider the following: we will have the purity routes for every girl just to lead to the so called "one true ending". What can this entail exactly? A Harem ending is absolutely discarded... it can't be either an ending with his "one true love", that's what the purity routes are for (unless Selebus reeeally wants to play favorites here), if he can't have all the girls he won't get any.

So, we are left with: a) a straight bad ending (where he's dead, a slave for eternity or whatever you want to imagine); or b) bittersweet endings, like the girls breaking the cycle and being able to finally move on from him. The question is, can some of them really do that if he's still around? I doubt it. Also, him being alone forever wouldn't make sense either. Therefore, he needs to go. Sorry, it's not like I'm trying to get you worried over your other favorite character... really, I'm a nice guy... unlike that hexadecimal bastard. But imo his chances of surviving are very slim. I think his passing would force the girls to either move forward or get stuck in their grievings, I can see a few trying to wish him back at the end (Maya among them).

Or maybe...

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There's also the possibility that Sensei sacrifices all the girls, or someone else does it for him.

The whole "get affection points with the girls, then offer them up, and everything will be okay" thing has been foreshadowed for awhile:

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Since the Trinity p2 Happy Event.

Even if Sensei decides not to try this, most of these girls would probably sacrifice the others if it meant getting what they wanted.

Not to say sacrificing or tributing others would actually get them what they want.

I'm kind of hoping the Purity Routes aren't the equivalent of "This is the life you could have had with them, now murder them, if you want to live" or something. Paper City on steroids.

 

[Unseenatlas]

Even if Sensei decides not to try this, most of these girls would probably sacrifice the others if it meant getting what they wanted.

this seems likely due to how Makoto was acting during 4th xmas

 

[Pedro4545454]

I'll be very surprised if he's not dead at the very end. Consider the following: we will have the purity routes for every girl just to lead to the so called "one true ending". What can this entail exactly? A Harem ending is absolutely discarded... it can't be either an ending with his "one true love", that's what the purity routes are for (unless Selebus reeeally wants to play favorites here), if he can't have all the girls he won't get any.

So, we are left with: a) a straight bad ending (where he's dead, a slave for eternity or whatever you want to imagine); or b) bittersweet endings, like the girls breaking the cycle and being able to finally move on from him. The question is, can some of them really do that if he's still around? I doubt it. Also, him being alone forever wouldn't make sense either. Therefore, he needs to go. Sorry, it's not like I'm trying to get you worried over your other favorite character... really, I'm a nice guy... unlike that hexadecimal bastard. But imo his chances of surviving are very slim. I think his passing would force the girls to either move forward or get stuck in their grievings, I can see a few trying to wish him back at the end (Maya among them).

Or maybe...

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There will still be many more years that Akira will spend with the girls and they have only been together with him for about 3 years and there are several of them who are surfing after being without him for 2 months, imagine with him having even more development with them? honestly, I can't see a way for them to be happy without him, literally Uta said that Io would have totally freaked out if she hadn't increased the dose of her medicine and even then you could see her worried and breaking into Akira's house just to go Even him, so yes, there are several girls who, for me, don't have much of a chance of moving forward if Akira dies or disappears.


And involving Akira's death and whether Maya would kill herself...........I accept this if it shows them retelling themselves and having a little peace, because that's all I want most, these two have already suffered too much and if death is the only place they can be genuinely happy I'll be fine with that.

It is entirely possible that he's already dead and this is his purgatory.

From what I remember, reading quite old messages here on the website, every time someone said this theory, Selly laughed and made fun of the person, so this is definitely off my list of theories.

this seems likely due to how Makoto was acting during 4th xmas

What made me angry with Makoto is that she thinks that leaving Akira the way he is until the reset time will solve everything there, but this idiot doesn't know that if Akira continues like this until the reset he will allow himself to be erased because he has no will to live and he still doesn't have that will but now he's walking but he still doesn't have that will to live.


So it's quite worrying what the next reset will be like, as its difficulty varies depending on Akira's psychological situation and as we can see it's not good, it was already bad but now it's 5 times worse.

 

[Unseenatlas]

There will still be many more years that Akira will spend with the girls and they have only been together with him for about 3 years and there are several of them who are surfing after being without him for 2 months, imagine with him having even more development with them? honestly, I can't see a way for them to be happy without him, literally Uta said that Io would have totally freaked out if she hadn't increased the dose of her medicine and even then you could see her worried and breaking into Akira's house just to go Even him, so yes, there are several girls who, for me, don't have much of a chance of moving forward if Akira dies or disappears.


And involving Akira's death and whether Maya would kill herself...........I accept this if it shows them retelling themselves and having a little peace, because that's all I want most, these two have already suffered too much and if death is the only place they can be genuinely happy I'll be fine with that.

From what I remember, reading quite old messages here on the website, every time someone said this theory, Selly laughed and made fun of the person, so this is definitely off my list of theories.

yeah i agree with you on this. really the only way that this could be wrong is if they get reset just like maya did which is only after they have been aware of multiple loops, but i dont think that is gonna happen.

 

[Unseenatlas]

What made me angry with Makoto is that she thinks that leaving Akira the way he is until the reset time will solve everything there, but this idiot doesn't know that if Akira continues like this until the reset he will allow himself to be erased because he has no will to live and he still doesn't have that will but now he's walking but he still doesn't have that will to live.


So it's quite worrying what the next reset will be like, as its difficulty varies depending on Akira's psychological situation and as we can see it's not good, it was already bad but now it's 5 times worse.

same here. The only reason im maybe letting her off easy with it is if no one told her what happens if someone doesnt make it to the rooftop in time. Still dont like that she wanted to wait so she could be higher on the totem pole of akiras harem. honestly i hope it backfires on her badly. it would be great if before akira returns to working, one of the gods shows this exact conversation to akira. i do however hope that she grows in this reset to much better understand everything and maybe get a better charater development.

turns out you have to put in every known digit of pi in reverse to access one of the terminals and then find some random ass quote from somewhere in the middle of the story to get the first task done XD

if we get lucky we might have to open the actual terminal like how that one person did it on discord lamo

 

[Angra Shadow]

With all the talk about Maya Prime...
What if Maya Prime, who existed for thousands if loops, is not THE Maya Prime? What if the real Maya Prime is the Maya who is HOPE's prisoner in the sexual overstimulation torture device? Or the Maya who was crucified? Or any of the Other Mayas we were shown in the numerous Happy Events other than Long Maya, "Youdidit" Maya and Moyo. Just something to think about.

This is actually what I've been banking on for a while. In fact I'm gonna take it a step further and say that all of this (everything we've seen so far) has happened before and it will all happen again, there is a greater loop and everything that is "different" is only so from the PoV of a Maya who gets reset each time. I believe this is what Ima means when they said how Akira will think that his actions are going to amount to anything but that will never happen.

As for the whole ending stuff, I think at the end of the Dark route we will have a consequential choice which will lead to either the Purity routes or the True End, which will only be unlocked after we finish the routes. Imo it will be about Akira accepting his life however it ended and Maya realizing that she has to let go of him and move on.

 

[okokok]

Are updates back to being monthly after 0.36?

 

[Unseenatlas]

Are updates back to being monthly after 0.36?

next update is scheduled for feb1(as far as i know)

 

[DeSkel15]

What made me angry with Makoto is that she thinks that leaving Akira the way he is until the reset time will solve everything there, but this idiot doesn't know that if Akira continues like this until the reset he will allow himself to be erased because he has no will to live and he still doesn't have that will but now he's walking but he still doesn't have that will to live.

In theory, this version of Sensei being erased might even benefit Makoto.

Considering that, like Maya Prime, Ayane and Makoto can make it to the roof, then even if Sensei doesn't, they could probably just seduce the next version of him. New Sensei probably wouldn't remember Maya Prime, and presumably the rest of the class would be reset as well, getting rid of the harem.

Then they'd just have each other to worry about, and well, Makoto's likely already thought this far ahead hence the whole betrayal stuff:

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Ayane has probably realized this as well, but doesn't want to admit it. It was implied quite a bit that she wanted to take Maya's place throughout Chapter 3:

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And for all we know, she may have played a part in what happened to Maya Prime.

Unlike Makoto though, I don't think Ayane would be able to handle Current Sensei being reset. Just finding out Current Sensei didn't remember her before Chapter 1, made her consider mental suicide:

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Kind of sucks that only straight monoamorous girls have apparently got to the rooftop so far. A "there can only be one" outcome seems inevitable.

 

[Noob Gamer 24 2402]

In theory, this version of Sensei being erased might even benefit Makoto.

Considering that, like Maya Prime, Ayane and Makoto can make it to the roof, then even if Sensei doesn't, they could probably just seduce the next version of him. New Sensei probably wouldn't remember Maya Prime, and presumably the rest of the class would be reset as well, getting rid of the harem.

Then they'd just have each other to worry about, and well, Makoto's likely already thought this far ahead hence the whole betrayal stuff:

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Ayane has probably realized this as well, but doesn't want to admit it. It was implied quite a bit that she wanted to take Maya's place throughout Chapter 3:

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And for all we know, she may have played a part in what happened to Maya Prime.

Unlike Makoto though, I don't think Ayane would be able to handle Current Sensei being reset. Just finding out Current Sensei didn't remember her before Chapter 1, made her consider mental suicide:

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Kind of sucks that only straight monoamorous girls have apparently got to the rooftop so far. A "there can only be one" outcome seems inevitable.

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