lolbob3

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If you lose your save, please don't complain here in the messages as there are 1 trillion messages warning you not to use it :)
its not about the save, i have my save but i can't see any contents from the package, i have the disabl drm gui installed
 

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I get an error when i try to load the care package on computer, is it because i'm still too early in the game?

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It's a weird error. The code looks correct, and on my machine it works. The line that gives you the error is only meant to sort the order of the care packages though, so if you don't mind the buttons not being in chronological order, removing the line might work, (or uncover another error).
Here is the .rpy file without that line. Keep a backup of your old one just in case you want to undo it.
 

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There's been some discussion in discord of who is drowning in the pool in the event Mother's Milk and Sel came out and said its Nodoka. What significance this has to the story I don't know. I try not to think about Happy Events because they make my head hurt. But I thought I would bring this up because I thought it was Maya initially and thought it was interesting.
 

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Not really, Maya is, but she is the one who is naked on the right, Nodoka is on the left
This large black figure, difficult to know what or whoever it is, but something important, holds Nodoka, I don't know if it was saving her or it was the one who drowned her, and with her other hand it makes a stop sign to Maya

This event is very important in terms of lore but difficult to decipher in my opinion, maybe someone has something more concise, but the library, Nao, wishing well, and the symbolism of the tombs in the pool,
plus the first messages with their colors representing character have a lot to do with it. Especially blue, which is Ayane's color and has phrases with a baby/himawari, green representing Maya, white sensei possibly, and Ami and Noriko in the poems...

Nao seems to be the entity with the clearest knowledge that everything is a game, do not continue any further, leaving it to be understood in parts of this event that everything is like a human having an ant farm
Emphasizing that the cycle is unbreakable, also belittling that he is not even the protagonist.

Xoanon, that is what that place is called... another detail perhaps to take into account, doing a little research, they were wooden sculptures that were used in objects of worship and temples, in ancient Greece.

Nao/Ami shape, has 4 ropes in each hand and 3 on his neck, maybe some meaning there?
Another important thing in this event is the angel hugging Ami, and that same image has been seen with Sana.
Then there is the issue of her claiming to be her guardian angel....
As for Nodoka, the theory that she could be related to Sensei comes to mind. Curiously, this event ends strongly with Nao rubbing Sekai's past in his face.

Now that I remember Nao-Chan drew the Old one, and the old one is very related to Ami(Happy) with many strings/ropes. :unsure:
Im 98% sure that is Teen Sara on the right because of the ponytail in the back
 
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It could be, although I have my doubts, I prefer to believe that it is Maya with her ribbon and different hairstyle, as well as the last Halloween 0.35, because I doubt that Sara is here, this event can be seen even if you have not fucked with Sara, it is not type like Good Boy. Where there is a correlation, and when young Sara has come out, she only comes out pixelated. If my memory serves me right.
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There's been some discussion in discord of who is drowning in the pool in the event Mother's Milk and Sel came out and said its Nodoka. What significance this has to the story I don't know. I try not to think about Happy Events because they make my head hurt. But I thought I would bring this up because I thought it was Maya initially and thought it was interesting.
Hmm I feel like Selly coming out and giving away direct info like this is quite the rare occasion.

Perhaps Nodoka's presence here, in the "Library, Wishing Well", is kinda the explanation why a mere mundane being such as herself gets to see so many strange visions that can only be surmised as tapping into the secrets of the universe; aka a visual representation of drowning in knowledge/information. Saying kinda is because it doesn't explain why her.
(also, apparently saying yes to drowning Nodoka and saying no to teen Sara then.......Sara did suffer from blackouts back then, so I guess a divine being changes its taste for its favorite toy?)

Now that Nodoka is confirmed to be in this, I wonder if it would bring new takes on the poem at the start of the event (attaching them here for ppl's convenience).
 
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Interesting then, the only connection I see is the angel, as Sara said in her main event, an angel told me, and the angel is her hugging Sana, and here she is reflected with Ami, she seems more curious to me than Nodoka. But Nodoka, with so much information about the '''world itself'', should have contact with Sekai in some way, perhaps this is it.

Hmm I feel like Selly coming out and giving away direct info like this is quite the rare occasion.

Perhaps Nodoka's presence here, in the "Library, Wishing Well", is kinda the explanation why a mere mundane being such as herself gets to see so many strange visions that can only be surmised as tapping into the secrets of the universe; aka a visual representation of drowning in knowledge/information. Saying kinda is because it doesn't explain why her.
(also, apparently say yes to drowning Nodoka and say no to teen Sara then...)

Now that Nodoka is confirmed to be in this, I wonder if it would bring new takes to the poem at the start of the event (attaching them here for ppl's convenience)
I maintain, as I said above, that the poems, due to their colors, are related to people, in these cases, Noriko, Maya, Ayane, Sensei, and Ami, deciphering what they refer to, beyond the fact that The blue poem and the baby is practically Himawari or something along those lines.
 
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Ooh, The Old One in the background. I was wondering when he'd show up.
There's been some discussion in discord of who is drowning in the pool in the event Mother's Milk and Sel came out and said its Nodoka. What significance this has to the story I don't know. I try not to think about Happy Events because they make my head hurt. But I thought I would bring this up because I thought it was Maya initially and thought it was interesting.
Definitely interesting, I had assumed it was Maya, or maybe Sara, but Nodoka actually makes a lot of sense:
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The fact she's recently joined the Swimming club, implied she's been to another world:
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And seems aware of things she shouldn't be, all could be explained by her having a connection to The Wishing Well and Nao. (She's also mentioned the World Itself and all 3 seem related)

Nodoka also happens to be around the Library alot, which happens to be another name for The Wishing Well and is where Nao is:
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The consciousnesses being ripped apart, part, could be related to Nodoka's manic episodes. Perhaps she's seeing things from other universes and timelines and it's confusing her.

Overall: Nodoka being there is very interesting, and it makes me wonder if she's related to the person that drowned in the Wishing Well, which was mentioned in the 'Miserably Ever After' Chapter 4 Main Event.
 

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Another interesting detail with Nodoka is her event Beyond the Reach of God, where sensei finds her in her manic state, and accompanies her to end up not being her. But Himawari, the most incredible thing there is that she calls Futaba, and she tells her that she is outside the barrier. She then says goodbye and Sensei returns to Nodoka in her room in an instant. It must have a deeper meaning perhaps. worthy of replay.
Not quite. The Shapeshifter and Nodoka were both there, Nodoka just ran off, then The Shapeshifter seemed to Reset things to before they left:
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The Shapeshifter also implies that Nodoka is hard to copy:
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So, chances are, she'd probably fail pretending to be Nodoka like she did being Sana, if she tried.

It's definitely worth a replay though. One of the major events that shows that Nodoka knows more than she should. Also some knowledge about Shapeshifter rules.
 
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I maintain, as I said above, that the poems, due to their colors, are related to people, in these cases, Noriko, Maya, Ayane, Sensei, and Ami, deciphering what they refer to, beyond the fact that The blue poem and the baby is practically Himawari or something along those lines.
I am skeptical about the color theme though. There are at least 3 verses (1st, 2nd, and 5th) that describe the obsession with mother's milk and companionship; it's strange if these verses that all talk about the same twisted relationship turn out to be referring to different individuals.

So if I string the first three together under the assumption that all verses come from the same person's POV, it would be something like this: I LOVE my mom and my mom's milk, but I get sad and lonely during night because she isn't breastfeeding me and instead is having sex with someone (inspired by "I listen to her moan" in the 2nd verse). My mom is pregnant and I will soon have a sister; will my little sister like me? (and I think the fear of losing maternal attention as the soon-to-be older sibling is implied as the negative emotion emanate, but I am not even 50% sure about it)

I don't know how to interpret the last two so I'll stop here, but doing this avoids assuming the 3rd verse being about Ayane, and consequently avoids forcing to assign the rest of the verses to different people with corresponding color themes (which is more often than not very dubious imo). Besides, if those colors can be used to associate with girls I'd wager that green is more Io than Maya.
 

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Interesting then, the only connection I see is the angel, as Sara said in her main event, an angel told me, and the angel is her hugging Sana, and here she is reflected with Ami, she seems more curious to me than Nodoka. But Nodoka, with so much information about the '''world itself'', should have contact with Sekai in some way, perhaps this is it.


I maintain, as I said above, that the poems, due to their colors, are related to people, in these cases, Noriko, Maya, Ayane, Sensei, and Ami, deciphering what they refer to, beyond the fact that The blue poem and the baby is practically Himawari or something along those lines.
I am skeptical about the color theme though. There are at least 3 verses (1st, 2nd, and 5th) that describe the obsession with mother's milk and companionship; it's strange if these verses that all talk about the same twisted relationship turn out to be referring to different individuals.

So if I string the first three together under the assumption that all verses come from the same person's POV, it would be something like this: I LOVE my mom and my mom's milk, but I get sad and lonely during night because she isn't breastfeeding me and instead is having sex with someone (inspired by "I listen to her moan" in the 2nd verse). My mom is pregnant and I will soon have a sister; will my little sister like me? (and I think the fear of losing maternal attention as the soon-to-be older sibling is implied as the negative emotion emanate, but I am not even 50% sure about it)

I don't know how to interpret the last two so I'll stop here, but doing this avoids assuming the 3rd verse being about Ayane, and consequently avoids forcing to assign the rest of the verses to different people with corresponding color themes (which is more often than not very dubious imo). Besides, if those colors can be used to associate with girls I'd wager that green is more Io than Maya.
Just to throw this out there, Sekai was a Mother figure to Sensei:
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As well as his girlfriend, sister, and teacher.

The Mother's Milk poems might be a young Sensei reacting to Sekai fucking his brother at night, fucking him during the day, and ending up pregnant with Ami, who is probably the baby that Sensei hopes will like him.

Not entirely sure on the meaning behind the colors, but they may represent the feelings Sensei had while writing the poems.
 
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