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Love this name, hope it takes off!
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We first see the MM note during the second reset. We don't know for sure that it wasn't there before that, because we never see the board, but it would be odd if it was there before the first reset, since it would be meaningless/confusing to Sensei.
There definitely is some connection between the den of the mole rat, the room with clocks, and the wishing well:
- The den of the molerat is a replica of Heaven. In previous events in the same classroom, it is described as being at the bottom of everything and somewhere underneath Heaven.
- The room with clocks is also at the bottom of everything. In one of the scenes there, we can see the upside down house through a window, but it's right-side up, implying the room is upside down with respect to the world.
- In "Mother's Milk", the Xoanon (the entity some people call NAO) says that "this is what Heaven looks like". It also says "I am you" but upside down, so it might be the reflection of Akira from the audio file that Moonflare mentioned. The upside down part could mean that the entire wishing well is upside down, connecting it to the house and the room with clocks.
In the wishing well, the Xoanon also says "this is where you will come when you die". This could mean literal death, as might have happened to each of Sensei and Makoto when they killed themselves. On the other hand, the normal way that Sensei "dies" in the cycle is by being factory reset, so it's possible that the old consciousness is sent to the wishing well when that happens. So maybe that's what happened (initially) to Maya Prime.
One other point I haven't thought about before now: in the wishing well, we see Nodoka and teen Sara. The presence of teen Sara might mean that time doesn't operate as usual there, which would explain how Maya Prime could appear in happy events and talk through Yasu even before her death. It might also help explain where Himawari comes from. (And it would mean it's possible that the Nodoka in the well is actually from some future event).
Personally, I believe that there isn't just one entity called AmIOkay. At different times she displays different personalities and different goals. In some later happy events we see multiple Mayas in the background, which I suspect are just different versions of AmIOkay. I've said before that I like the idea that a new AmIOkay is produced from every reset version of Maya, though I'm not sure how her Sekai connections fit into that.
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I keep reading ménage, instead of menagerie.
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Basically, there's a possibility that AmIOkay was the Maya from a previous cycle/terminal, and there's also the possibility that Amy was the Ami of a previous cycle/terminal as well. Thus, this. I mean, it's not impossible, right? Who knows...
I was also not expecting the scene with AmIOkay telling Noriko about what Amy did to turn out so creepy, but there you go.
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Another thing about the Xoanon, Mothers Milk and fixing everyone.
This is from the last updates Yasu events.
Yasu: "Take them and drown them. Hold their heads beneath the water and watch as they are healed. Fix them, for you are the reason they have broken. And you are the reason they continue to suffer."
Reads like she is discribing what could be going on during "Mothers Milk" where Akira meets Nao.
Where Nodoka gets "drowned" and Sara has to wait in the line.
Question would be if that's right, if it is already happening or what will/should/could be happening and if the Xoanon is some version of Akira.
This is from the last updates Yasu events.
Yasu: "Take them and drown them. Hold their heads beneath the water and watch as they are healed. Fix them, for you are the reason they have broken. And you are the reason they continue to suffer."
Reads like she is discribing what could be going on during "Mothers Milk" where Akira meets Nao.
Where Nodoka gets "drowned" and Sara has to wait in the line.
Question would be if that's right, if it is already happening or what will/should/could be happening and if the Xoanon is some version of Akira.
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Seeing as we are taking about the Noriko event ("Transpacific Sadness Symposium |: DEN OF THE MOLE RAT") here is a few things I noted about It. As others are saying it seems fairly clear wherever Noriko was shown/taken is the same place we have seen multiple times now.
I also got the impression that Nao-chan was the one showing Noriko this place (not sure why yet, probably something reset related though). And that Nao-chan was communicating to her through the announcements. But I'm not sure how to explain the dear parts line being brought up because I don't think Nao-chan was present during that part of the camping trip. You could still explain that in various interesting ways though, mainly relating to who and what Nao-chan might be connected to.
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AmIOkay being a Maya from another cycle is interesting but really fucks up some things.Maya has said that she has been doing this for god knows how long.So in order for THIS maya to exist that means that somewhere in the long line of cycles Maya lost her memory>Countless cycles passed>Regained it>Even more cycles passed>Game begun.Unless you want to make the argument that AmIOkay was "created" in the very first cycles of the game where Maya was still vurnerable and didnt know any better.
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I'm Just saying that most philosophical monologue in LiL reads like tedious reproduction of Notes From Underground with nothing to compare with Dostoevsky. Dostoevsky is immortal.
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Useless curiosity: On the website archiveofourown there is a fanfic where someone makes poems inspired by "The Girl Who Can't Breathe" and yes it is based on LIL.
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Also they need to hire new cleaners at the Karaoke place.
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- Jul 8, 2020
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All this talk about about ass...
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- Sep 5, 2021
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God... i could live with my face buried in that ass for the rest of my life...
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As a face guy, this is absolutely SUPER HOT.
Seems quite a short life if you just bury yourself in it forever, but a fair death, that ass is really nice.
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Nah she cheated on best homie and hid it from her.Common Otoha L
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That and 'where would the poop go?' are two very obvious problems with that train of thought, but i fully stand by it, you'd have to get a crowbar to prise my face from it.
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Ah, yes, the one "redeeming" feature of Otoha. I already hated her, but when I got to this scene on my second playthrough I was like "yeah, I get it, Akira." Being a piece of shit doesn't make much of a difference in you wanting to fuck her (when she has this ass), math checks out
Yes, but at this point Akira probably sees it as the story going one of two ways:
1. Otoha was a piece of shit to Rin (and Niki) - the end.
2. Otoha was a piece of shit to Rin (and Niki) - and I get to have sex with her.
Can't blame Akira on that one. Again, math checks out
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It took me some time, but I'm partial to the idea that AmIOkay is another Maya or part of her. AmIOkay might even be what happens if someone isn't brought back in time as has been somewhat alluded to. As far as there being multiple AmIOkays, I don't see anything stopping that from being the case, my only guess would be that AmIOkay needing to be a version of Maya that has gained enough insight into the resets and world before being reset to turn into her. I think it's also possible that her personality is simply split or erratic, and/or she's influenced by her location and possibly one of the user(s).
As far as Maya having been reset in the first place, and possibly leaving the note before-this, it might seem strange at first. But as far as I'm aware, we're not told outright that Maya has been doing this continuously, from start from cycle one. Even if she had a role to play in starting the cycles through her connection to the shrine or wish, she never says or is said to have (from what I remember, please correct) that she was there during the first reset or caused it, and hasn't stopped. She's just been doing it for a long time, but a long time out of an uncountable or an infinity is still just a small percentage. Even if she thinks she saw the first cycle, it's possible that she's wrong, if her memory of previous cycles was gone.
As far as the note, it might not seem like it makes a lot of sense either, but I think there's a couple ways to justify it being there. One is that the board seems to be an afterthought, for Akira specifically, just a board with old sticky notes on it that he only really looks at with much care during resets. Another is if Maya really has been reset, it's likely she's gotten to a point of trying to do something about it before. Like I said I think having enough knowledge or otherwise would probably be a prerequisite to having an AmIOkay appear after you're reset. Maya Prime had seemingly tried everything she thought of to fix things, which would give her reason to leave the note, but also call into question why she never did but a previous Maya did. Maybe Maya Prime is a dumbass. This is all a little speculative, though.
As far as these several hidden places go, they may not be the same exact thing, but I feel like they all have to have some correlation. Aramaug summed it up better than I can. It just irks me. I'm a sad boi. Had a train of thought before being dragged to the bar against my will last night. Must think more about what these places mean metaphorically.
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Didnt she say what we(aka her and akira) were there from the beginning?Like word for word.Thats where im basing this of off at least.