No, not in my theory, either. Instead, each USER is entirely separate with their own ego, superego, and ID. That means this one guy has potentially five sets of ego, superego, and ID that switch out at completely unpredictable moments, potentially splinters of the original that encompass different parts of the original ego, superego, and ID of the person they are a part of. I still do not believe Maya to be a USER at all, though I do believe her to be aware of them.
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Hmmm ok. I really dont get all the stages of ego stuff. Thats way to elaborated for me, and as i stated i don't see that much in all the metaphorical, philosophical, religous stuff, espacially in the happy scenes.
One thing for now though. If we have some entities representing those users in connection with the gods/religion stuff. Callous one, caring one, forgot if there was a third or more and who they were called. Think about which persons and maybe Hope as a possible user, would fit those names. Who's callous? whos caring (for whom)... just some thoughts thrown in.
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Oh my
As I said previously, I disagree. We may not be right with our theories, and probably won't be, but I don't think it's too early to seriously theory craft. It is more or less throwing everything at a wall to see what sticks, but it has its fun aspects to it.
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how the fuck do youy trigger events? for example Maya... affection around 281 according to wiki I have to go to the shrine but same shit always...
Check the requirements on the right side of the page, there are more requirements than only affection - you also need to have seen certain events
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That's almost certainly the case.
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You're blocked on someone else's event then.
It's the usual "sandbox grind" stuff. The events trigger each other. Dig around in the girls (both main and side) and see who has untriggered events, then go bother them at their jobs, in their dorm room,call them, invite them. Different colors are different things (blue is an "invite" event, for example). Dorm events only happen on certain days of the week, and if it is a weekend event might be at certain times of day.
They all seem real and the time loops are starting to seem like some sort of in and out of reality situation where player Sensei sometimes starts seeing things that didn't actually happen, but then he snaps back to reality, causing a reset. Kind of like how clairvoyance type powers, the kind that can see the future, are often portrayed, but he's not seeing an actual future. This whole thing seems less like a simulation and more like a prolonged mental breakdown that Maya is trying to prevent from going into full effect and Noriko is causing to worsen with nearly every word out of her mouth.
Yeah this is the vibe I'm getting too, except that there are things like... well lets leave it at Bluejay and everything that happens surrounding that. I mean it's hard to argue that that didn't happen, or happened a different way. It really seems like that happened and then got reset. Honestly, at this point, my biggest gripe of the game though is Sensei's age. It doesn't work with Niki and Noriko. I think it was kind of a mistake for Selebus to say his age, but he definitely threw out too high a number. I mean, Noriko has said as young as 3 he was around her, but it has been implied maybe since birth. He dated Niki for 5 years, and he started tutoring Maya and Noriko at age 6, and continued until at least age 10, when he taught them about Orwell. A couple issues with that, first being that that makes all of those events only about 5 years ago, but Ami has been living with him pretty much forever. Secondly, Niki became a pop star after Sensei, but around 18, which would mean about 11 years ago. This is MUCH more consistent with when it is implied Ami would have started living with Sensei, but would mean Sensie disappeared when Noriko was like 7, being REALLY generous with her age and pretending all the girls are 18+, or 5000 year old wizards, however most likely she would have been younger than that. Anyway, only reason I bring this up, is that either Selebus maybe needs to look at how the game has evolved due to stretch goals on Patreon and double check the cohesiveness of his story, OR these inconsistencies aren't inconsistencies, and they're stand-ins for various psychological issues, so there can be inconsistencies, like going to the beach last summer, except that they wouldn't have been in his class then, except they were because reset. I dunno... it's a lot to try to consider, and I can't wait for more.
Edit: grammar
Edit2: doh, added reason #2 for my issue with Sensei's age.
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Use a save editor (the online one) to get max stats
Also skip text that you've already read
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It's useful to use the wiki. Otherwise you could grind forever and make no progress, as the story sometimes requires you to complete certain events and not only have high affection scores. But the wiki helped me massively. There is also a guide
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Actually, it's quite likely that "reality" absolutely isn't. The resets and happy events might be the closest thing Sensei experiences to the real world.
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when you're game is so good, at some point it'll get people to discuss more and form theories about the plot. None of them might turn out to be true, but you're so into the game that you just can't deny the need of showing some of the ideas and thoughts of your own, imagining the story playing out just like what you had in mind, that's priceless.
Selebus should be proud. (might already)
Wiki is why I missed damn events.. None of the missable ones was put into the events list of the main page! Why it makes no sense. So Wiki is broken since it has missed events. I had to do the horrible method to make sure NOT to miss anymore events.
1. Select first option
2. Select first option (if skip was not grayed out roll back)
3. Select second option (keep repeating process for EVERY single option)
This prevents missing anymore events but takes eternity all because someone decided to not include the missed events into the main wiki page that shows all the girls. Events from some girls did not show up on wiki at all UNLESS I manually searched for them. That is a broken site.
Tip: If you are just looking at this game for the first time playing and UNLESS your have 40+ hours to go through this game don't even consider starting it! The Wiki will have you missing events as it's not properly complete. You can follow the Wiki straight through to v0.6.0 but after that the events that can be missed come up and make you miss them. So stop at v0.6.0 in the wiki.
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This is my current theory for the game:
My current theory, is that it's some form of experiment by a secret organisation. I mainly think the experiment could either be either to create changes in the personality in an individual (In this case Sensei) and to control his mind; or to combat the effects of a mental illness, likely schizophrenia, in order to try and save Sensei from that very condition. Of course, the setting of this experiment is taking place in an alternate reality, with both Sensei and all of the other characters connected to it, likely by different machines which keep their consciousness within this reality. This would also explain the constant references to wires, as all of them could be connected to the machines which keep them trapped in there. An additional point, it would also explain why the girls can't get pregnant. This is because while their minds are connected in this alternate reality, their physical bodies are not.
I've heard that people think Sensei has some form of mental illness, such as schizophrenia, but maybe the organisation is actually attempting to cure it or else cause it. Or maybe they want to develop mind control techniques, in an alternative reality setting which they can simply carry on resetting the world on an unaware person for the sake of convenience. If he were to be suffering from some form of personality disorder, it's safe to assume those personalities could be entirely different from one another, which seeing as current Sensei is nothing like old Sensei, and there is potentially a next Sensei when the current Sensei is lost, it would explain why they are so different. Each personality would then progressively become more evil, as it can be assumed that his mental illness is becoming worse and less stable (Judging from the happy events and world resets). Seemingly the worst that the old sensei did was give detention to the students, especially Yumi, and obviously this sensei has done far worse than that.
It would also explain why when Sensei does lose control, such as when he kisses Yumi and when he has thoughts of killing people, it is a more evil and less controlled version of himself. He has no memories of these events, because in his mind he was another person, another personality in which he has no control over.
As well as that, it explains why Maya is desperate for the older Sensei to come back. The people are all trapped within this alternate reality, potentially a new version of Sensei could destroy both himself and the world. The current Sensei is a lot darker than the old Sensei, which is why she both mistrusts him, and partially blames him for what's happened. Yet she does understand it isn't entirely his fault, she knows it is her responsibility to somehow fix the impossible.
Next, the organisation may be good or evil, and either can greatly affect the rest of the theory.
If the organisation is good and they are trying to cure Sensei of whatever illness he has, then possibly when Maya prays during a world reset, her thoughts directly travel to the workers in the organisation, they listen to her warning about the world breaking and reset it, ensuring that both the world and Sensei are safe. She has stated multiple times she does not believe in god, and yet she prays anyway and her prayers are answered to reset the world. This could indicate that it is people who are controlling the reset, and not a 'god'. But of course, this causes malfunctions and Sensei temporarily loses his mind as they are not yet able to stop or cure whatever mental illness he has. Whenever Sensei's personality changes, this could be simply the schizophrenia taking control and attempting to destroy either Sensei's remaining sanity or the world. Moreover, the different 'Users' may be various workers in the organisation taking direct control of the situation, in order to save Sensei. The evil 'God' or whatever he is that is referenced quite a few times, could be a metaphor for the root cause of his mental illness. It could be a symbolisation for trauma, or the schizophrenia that is keeping him in this state. And of course, this evil god makes his life hell inside this alternate reality, because it is the very reason that he is there in the first place. So in a way, Sensei is himself that being, and he is slowly destroying himself. Which is why if the organisation is good, they are doing this experiment to save him.
If the organisation are mostly evil, then I think they are attempting to control Sensei and damage him beyond repair, or else develop a mind control technique which they could then use on people in the real world. And of course seeing as this is experimental technology, the alternate reality breaks because they can't fully control it. Maya can be assumed to be a 'good guy' and here to try and save Sensei, but she has to ensure that Sensei does not understand what is happening or he would truly lose his mind, and her resetting the world is simply buying time until she can find a more permanent solution to the entire situation. Maybe she knows someone inside the organisation that is on her side, and they implement the reset for her, but of course seeing as they don't have full control over the experiment by themselves this would explain why each reset can be very different from the last. Alternatively, the organisation could simply be creating the resets themselves until they have completed their objectives, which is to truly control the mind of another person (Sensei), or to create something else entirely with his consciousness. In any case, I think the latest characters will have a very large part to play in relation to this part of the theory being correct.
But with writing all of this, I have not yet completed the most recent updates, and my thinking may be massively different in the future. This is just the general picture of what I think could be happening
My current theory, is that it's some form of experiment by a secret organisation. I mainly think the experiment could either be either to create changes in the personality in an individual (In this case Sensei) and to control his mind; or to combat the effects of a mental illness, likely schizophrenia, in order to try and save Sensei from that very condition. Of course, the setting of this experiment is taking place in an alternate reality, with both Sensei and all of the other characters connected to it, likely by different machines which keep their consciousness within this reality. This would also explain the constant references to wires, as all of them could be connected to the machines which keep them trapped in there. An additional point, it would also explain why the girls can't get pregnant. This is because while their minds are connected in this alternate reality, their physical bodies are not.
I've heard that people think Sensei has some form of mental illness, such as schizophrenia, but maybe the organisation is actually attempting to cure it or else cause it. Or maybe they want to develop mind control techniques, in an alternative reality setting which they can simply carry on resetting the world on an unaware person for the sake of convenience. If he were to be suffering from some form of personality disorder, it's safe to assume those personalities could be entirely different from one another, which seeing as current Sensei is nothing like old Sensei, and there is potentially a next Sensei when the current Sensei is lost, it would explain why they are so different. Each personality would then progressively become more evil, as it can be assumed that his mental illness is becoming worse and less stable (Judging from the happy events and world resets). Seemingly the worst that the old sensei did was give detention to the students, especially Yumi, and obviously this sensei has done far worse than that.
It would also explain why when Sensei does lose control, such as when he kisses Yumi and when he has thoughts of killing people, it is a more evil and less controlled version of himself. He has no memories of these events, because in his mind he was another person, another personality in which he has no control over.
As well as that, it explains why Maya is desperate for the older Sensei to come back. The people are all trapped within this alternate reality, potentially a new version of Sensei could destroy both himself and the world. The current Sensei is a lot darker than the old Sensei, which is why she both mistrusts him, and partially blames him for what's happened. Yet she does understand it isn't entirely his fault, she knows it is her responsibility to somehow fix the impossible.
Next, the organisation may be good or evil, and either can greatly affect the rest of the theory.
If the organisation is good and they are trying to cure Sensei of whatever illness he has, then possibly when Maya prays during a world reset, her thoughts directly travel to the workers in the organisation, they listen to her warning about the world breaking and reset it, ensuring that both the world and Sensei are safe. She has stated multiple times she does not believe in god, and yet she prays anyway and her prayers are answered to reset the world. This could indicate that it is people who are controlling the reset, and not a 'god'. But of course, this causes malfunctions and Sensei temporarily loses his mind as they are not yet able to stop or cure whatever mental illness he has. Whenever Sensei's personality changes, this could be simply the schizophrenia taking control and attempting to destroy either Sensei's remaining sanity or the world. Moreover, the different 'Users' may be various workers in the organisation taking direct control of the situation, in order to save Sensei. The evil 'God' or whatever he is that is referenced quite a few times, could be a metaphor for the root cause of his mental illness. It could be a symbolisation for trauma, or the schizophrenia that is keeping him in this state. And of course, this evil god makes his life hell inside this alternate reality, because it is the very reason that he is there in the first place. So in a way, Sensei is himself that being, and he is slowly destroying himself. Which is why if the organisation is good, they are doing this experiment to save him.
If the organisation are mostly evil, then I think they are attempting to control Sensei and damage him beyond repair, or else develop a mind control technique which they could then use on people in the real world. And of course seeing as this is experimental technology, the alternate reality breaks because they can't fully control it. Maya can be assumed to be a 'good guy' and here to try and save Sensei, but she has to ensure that Sensei does not understand what is happening or he would truly lose his mind, and her resetting the world is simply buying time until she can find a more permanent solution to the entire situation. Maybe she knows someone inside the organisation that is on her side, and they implement the reset for her, but of course seeing as they don't have full control over the experiment by themselves this would explain why each reset can be very different from the last. Alternatively, the organisation could simply be creating the resets themselves until they have completed their objectives, which is to truly control the mind of another person (Sensei), or to create something else entirely with his consciousness. In any case, I think the latest characters will have a very large part to play in relation to this part of the theory being correct.
But with writing all of this, I have not yet completed the most recent updates, and my thinking may be massively different in the future. This is just the general picture of what I think could be happening
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It actually isn't very hard if you take mental breakdown into account. "Bluejay" and every reference to the not so pleasant part are all in his head, he's seeing them, but they aren't actually happening. All this while a different thing entirely is going on, which is what we see directly in the wake of each reset.
I get the feeling these perceived inconsistencies are actually intended and are yet another result of mental issues.
There's A LOT of content at this point, so it would take some time on even a play through where you literally skip everything and that's not taking into account getting stuck because of the skipping.
In a sense, yes. The way I see it now, he's under a severe amount of mental stress and that is taking its toll in the form of a number of mental issues, including seeing things that didn't actually happen and then snapping back to reality after each episode, AKA resetting. I'm not even sure if he actually jumped or fell at the beginning anymore or if that was yet another episode.
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To add to a confusion, Noriko says that they last saw each other almost 3 years ago.
Maya did casually dropped the word "timelines" the first time Noriko appeared, so...
In a "Abyss" event, when Sensei blacked out before Yumi, an unknown entity tells him that Yumi looks scared, just like Sensei was, when he was with "the world" (Sekai).
I believe this is her.
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On the side note, I've recently remembered the manga I read long time ago, even found it's name again - Classmate, Kamimura Yuuka wa Kou Itta. It's has a high school setting, everybody is a robot (or rather complex, human-like androids), including MC, except for one human girl, who they all programmed to ignore. It turned out that before they were all put in high school, they lived in different simulations, had different lives names and duties.
This game recently start to remind me of this manga. I thought it was suspect, when Maya made direct parallels between how computer works with memories and how normal brain does, and then she immediately insinuated that girls work with memories they have much like computer do. Also in the Yumi's event Abyss, a Purple Smile...thing said that it knew Yumi by different name. In that same manga I was talking above, some androids were put in war setting, which reminds me of Miku situations, her ptsd and "night-vision" references, that keeps popping out.
Would be hilarious if it turned out that Selebus used this manga has one of inspiration sources.