akselx

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So. Here's my guess on what the deal is. Judging from what we've seen.

Maya is obviously the starting off point.
Not necessary. In my earlier theories, I was convinced that Maya and Amiokay girl are two distinct characters, with the latter being the original and Maya being the...I don't know, substitute maybe? Amiokay called Maya her better version and Ami in a Happy scene said that Maya is a dream baby, as in being conceived in a dream. What the hell does this make her?
So, Amiokay, if it's not Maya herself, is a starting point. Maybe she's that someone "so lonely it shakes the earth to the core", that Yasu was talking about, someone hanging around Sensei in the aether, some, whose arms are always wrapped around his shoulders.

Something went to shit and she prayed (or something) for a chance to correct it. or something.
Sensei might have been the one who initiated this whole thing.

But what happened? My guess? She and Sensei were dating. Noriko showed up or got involved, due to her childhood crush.
It seems to me, that both hers and Noriko's involvement with Sensei happened in one of the cycles, not in a "reality", if such thing even exist for them. The whole time inconsistencies in their explanations seems to indicate just that.

Probably wearing the green and white scarf. Maybe by jumping off a building (the first thing you did in the game was jump)
Green scarf significance is that Maya(?) was wearing it when Sensei(?) answered to her confession.
Sensei definitely jumped. He even called himself an isekai protagonist through suicide, because this guy actually knows and remembers everything and just pushes it down.

Explains maya's hostility to Noriko.
All we know is that Noriko "ruins everything" given time. That's it for now.
Personally, I think that Noriko messed up some of the things Maya was trying to do in pervious loops to bring back Sensei/keep him in a loop/whatever it is that she was trying to do.
Also, there might have been an intense rivalry going on between them when they were kids. Such feeling may occur when your rival in the same exact situation as you, basically your reflection.
Hence my theory that Sensei was in love with Maya's sister (and she knew), that coincidently also was Ami's mother (he was at the scene of the accident and even removing metal that pierced her body). Sensei's uneasy feelings towards his brother were mentiond at some point, inferiority complex, i think.

so, a new world. But something went wrong. The Sensei wasn't *HER* sensei.
According to Yasu, since nobody dies, they just hang around in aether. So, whatever her/Amiokay/Sensei did, Sensei's body was alive and well after a "suicide", but his soul was "on rotation", I guess.

She's gone through multiple iterations of the same events, keeping "sensei" at distance because it's not HER sensei, despite looking like him.
I think her attitude and general strategy to keep fending off "Sensei" bitten her in the ass, when she got a scarf as a present from him and realised that it might have been the real Sensei.

But because it's her world that was created to save the Sensei, the rest of it molds around him. Like the girls getting insta-attached to him, him getting away with pretty much anything etc. All the while Maya watches helplessly, knowing that it's all her fault.

But I guess OUR sensei is special. and Maya is about to flip out completely. This is her personal hell, but suddenly she's no longer the nexus of it all.

The game ends when Maya finally comes to terms with her loss, maybe by falling for "our" sensei. Or something to that effect.

Thats my quick theory.
I think that a deal was made with one of the "Gods" (wired Tree-computer, most likely) to make Sensei's body a vehicle for a God to experience things, with a random soul "driving" the body around. Now it's a real Sensei's turn.

Sensei used to take tuitions, while being in a relationship with Niki, and used to live in the old part of the town
Maya and Noriko were his students, and both of them developed crushes for Sensei
Ami's parents die, which forced Sensei to move to the new part of town to take care of her. He stops taking tuitions, and disappears from the lives of Niki, Noriko and Maya.
Sensei takes a new job in a school, Maya somehow ends up in the same school, and somehow Sensei and Maya end up in a relationship
I wonder if it all happened in "reality", single cycle, or between several cycles.

Maya is his subconscious, who is slowly helping Sensei to heal his mind.
She also said that she wants him to keep doing what he's doing, stop asking questions and just enjoy an endless school year. I think she's just afraid that he will snap and his soul will go on rotation again, with someone else taking his place for gazillion more cycles, before Maya will be able to do whatever it is she's trying to do.

She is scared of Noriko, because Sensei must learn about himself on his own, and Noriko telling him what happened might destroy his mind.
So far, only Maya causes him to trip, though.

HOPE is the intact part of his mind, HOPE has locked out Sensei's memories as a means to save his mind. The "wire god" is the machine Sensei is hooked to in the real world keeping him alive.
What do you think of the angels? Yasu wants to become one and I remember Maya/Amiokay mentioning that she's an honorary angel.

The game will end once the Sensei successfully regains his memories, and comes to terms with what transpired in the events leading to his suicide.
I think part of the reason Maya wants him to stop asking question is to prevent him from gaining memories, something she straight up admits.
I think that is due to some of "real Sensei" iterations (assuming there were some before this one, which I think there were) completing the whole cycle and jumping from a roof again, restarting this whole thing.

Speaking of memories, I think he's got them alright (Maya seems to think so), he just pretends (or rather convinces himself) that he doesn't. Maybe the Wire God connection blocks them (maybe that was part of the deal, something Sensei wanted himself), but every time they go out of synch, memories resurface, or/and the opposite: every time memories resurface, they go out of synch.
 
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n0xx

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Just an opinion, but, um... Ayane won the rap battle? Her rhyme scheme was tighter, her joke bars were clearer, and her put-downs didn't cross lines. Plus, everybody loves gun bars, and Ayane actually has the chrome to back em up.

To my mind, Uta was really reaching for some of her rhymes, her rhythm was off, and she came off more smug than actually superior.

If I were judging, I'd have given it to Ayane.
 
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Can someone briefly describe Ayane's lust event? I finished all events and don't have any saves before to gain Kirin lust so it seems I lost it forever, but people say something crazy happened there
 

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Is there any way to see all the scenes or do you have to make multiple saves?
Yes. Level up all characters equally, check the triggers for Happy Scenes on wiki page, don't do Chika's Shadenfreude event before Beach trip, level up lust to 15 or so as soon you get acess to this stat for a character.
Can someone briefly describe Ayane's lust event? I finished all events and don't have any saves before to gain Kirin lust so it seems I lost it forever, but people say something crazy happened there
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Yes. Level up all characters equally, check the triggers for Happy Scenes on wiki page, don't do Chika's Shadenfreude event before Beach trip, level up lust to 15 or so as soon you get acess to this stat for a character.
Thanks man. This all I need to do to not miss any scenes? If so will do!
 

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Yes. Level up all characters equally, check the triggers for Happy Scenes on wiki page, don't do Chika's Shadenfreude event before Beach trip, level up lust to 15 or so as soon you get acess to this stat for a character.

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Your spoiler is putting it lightly, too.
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There's actually quite a bit of replayability once you take into consideration the full extent of the game Selebus has planned. For example, the purity routes will likely be something that, for once, cannot be fully done with everyone on a single play through because of their individual nature.
That will be interesting to see, how exactly it will be done. If you have a different game with few different paths to take, and whole thing is few hours long for each, it's no problem. But here the length is supposed to be crazy (and that doesn't describe it enough), and without counting exactly, I'm sure that I have at least ten very favourite girls who I can't miss. Will I have to take a year long vacation for it? o_O

There will be no streamlined mode, that would essentially just be reading a book in computerized form, AKA a kinetic novel, which is not the kind of thing Selebus has shown he wants to do. Also, that would get real boring real fast with no element of consequence and no way to make any changes, you would just be following what the Selebus would do, not what you would do.
There could be just important choices that change something. Take the game's "daily routine", you need to choose if you call someone or go somewhere, and it's not like every single of those choices is important every single time. Quite the opposite.
 

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Just had to say that and get it off my chest I know most of you are really disappointed in Kirin
 
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That will be interesting to see, how exactly it will be done. If you have a different game with few different paths to take, and whole thing is few hours long for each, it's no problem. But here the length is supposed to be crazy (and that doesn't describe it enough), and without counting exactly, I'm sure that I have at least ten very favourite girls who I can't miss. Will I have to take a year long vacation for it? o_O


There could be just important choices that change something. Take the game's "daily routine", you need to choose if you call someone or go somewhere, and it's not like every single of those choices is important every single time. Quite the opposite.
A vacaton might be a bit too drastic a move, even for this game. I would say doing it over a long time during periods of free time would suffice.

Actually, even those are important. Remember, there are events that have a 'mark as missed' requirement tied to seeing a certain point in the main event line. In other words, get to the point in the main events and you miss the one with that 'mark as missed' requirement. The daily routine is how you stop that from happening by grinding the stats it looks at to determine if the event is missed.

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Just had to say that and get it off my chest I know most of you are really disappointed in Kirin
Wait, I thought S was the top, how can one be demoted to S if there is nothing above it? I honestly can't say I'm disappointed, I knew already she was capable of this and was fully expecting her to do something like this as far back as the beach event because of what she did there.
 
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KnowNoHope

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Wait, I thought S was the top, how can one be demoted to S if there is nothing above it? I honestly can't say I'm disappointed, I knew already she was capable of this and was fully expecting her to do something like this as far back as the beach event because of what she did there.
no the rank system goes best girl, S,A,B,C,D,F
 

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no the rank system goes best girl, S,A,B,C,D,F
With F being the lowest and S being the highest usually. Like from , though best girl being a category to itself is new, I've never seen that. I had made a list myself to serve as a visual example, but F95 seems to be having image uploading issues. Even direct screenshots aren't working and those are something I upload quite a bit for bug hunting.
 

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Evidently, the guide and wiki are wrong as this has happened multiple times. Oh well, just gotta do as much content as possible first I suppose.
They aren't "wrong," per se, you've just run into a version difference.

The guide and wiki are for 0.16.0p2. The Maya event requirement was added in 0.17.0.
 
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God3333

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I know this may sound silly, but I hear people saying that using cheats marks your character save as a cheater which could cause issues later on. Now, I think Renpy is coded in python (which I'll admit is not my area of expertise), but has anyone tried actually finding the variable and switching it or removing the code that looks for signs of cheating?

Assuming the cheater bit is stored locally in the persons own game files surely they could just change the variable and then do an Output cheater status or whatever said variable is caused to check if it updates ingame?

I'll stress, I know little to nothing about python and Renpy, I do Java so python is relatively unknown to me, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

Obviously, finding the code would be a bit of a pain having to unpack everything and search through it, especially if the dev is un-documenting when it comes to code explanation, which would make sense as he's not expecting you to look at the code, but surely this would resolve the possible issue of being marked and it impacting the game

Hmm, if the cheat was constantly running then we'd probably need to remove the code to check if a cheat if active. Like if you turn on god mode the game can see you are actively running the god mode code and can flag that you cheat, however, if you spawned an item in via cheats the flag would only get raised when it was spawned in so logically if you used cheats to set relationship level you'd only have to just change the cheat flag, right?
 
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I don't suppose someone could provide the v17 Progress and Guide mod somewhere other than F95Zone (nopy, for example)? The attachment server's down and I can't grab the zip. :-(

EDIT: Well, I'm off to bed. Perhaps the server'll be fixed in the morn.
 
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