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So, the next update going to be about beach and its going to be huge? Well, at least I dont have to skip for long since I really wish to see all the differences if there was a win for 1st/2nd or a draw)
I think its two updates into the future, not the next update. Attatched is a picture of the last time Selebus posted his schedule.So, the next update going to be about beach and its going to be huge? Well, at least I dont have to skip for long since I really wish to see all the differences if there was a win for 1st/2nd or a draw)
Also, playing this game while understanding japanese makes it hit much much worse.
Next update is a few main scenes and a handful of side characters.So, the next update going to be about beach and its going to be huge? Well, at least I dont have to skip for long since I really wish to see all the differences if there was a win for 1st/2nd or a draw)
Well, most of my posts are not dead serious, quite the opposite, but there was some truth in this one."I'm okay with him doing sketchy shit and being a borderline rapist, but fucking fat chicks, no, that's too far." I get it, really do, poor wording, but, by God, that made me laugh.
Good thing I decided to read the spoiler, since I would've probably never done it otherwise and missed it as well
I'm about to start nothing was missing myself and I already don't want to
Also, playing this game while understanding japanese makes it hit much much worse.
I've been using Google Translate for the Japanese text in the Happy Scenes, but I know it's not the best at translation.Please elaborate, I am genuinely curious, as I don't understand the language.
I have to admit, after continuing Futaba's arc after the beach vacation, I was thinking some rather uncharitable thoughts about the lot of you! Even though she can't read your comments here, it feels like you all are making it worse for her, like you're somehow giving Yumi even more power. Futaba invokes something in me--I just want to help her and protect her (Rin as well).But then comes Futaba and [fatal error, does not compute]. If I'm such pervert, why would I go after her sexually, if I could go after 20+ other girls or women who are hot? The conclusion is that Sensei can't be serious with her, and it's not fair, especially when she's portrayed as nice and sensitive. I have similar problem with Chika. She's hot, that's not it. But it seems that she expects too much from Sensei, and he doesn't say no. I don't believe him that he's ready for it, so it also won't be fair if he ends up disappointing her. It's slightly different from Ayane, she also seems to expect too much from him, but there I'm not sure how much I believe her, with her being all theatrical about it.
Please elaborate, I am genuinely curious, as I don't understand the language.
Most of the time it's mysterious stuff, things that don't make sense at that point in the story (like "shall we look for it?", or maniac laughing), but some other times like in the second happy event, whoever that girl is in your dreams saying she doesn't want to die or begging you to help herI've been using Google Translate for the Japanese text in the Happy Scenes, but I know it's not the best at translation.
Or are you talking about Japanese culture with the pressure on kids and the suicide rate there?
I wouldn't call her weight outright unhealthy by itself, not yet anyway, but I would call it borderline as it can still lead to other issues. Strain on the body resulting in harder work for the circulatory system and, if it works hard enough, that could overwork the heart and cause damage to it which could be fatal.Futaba isn't fat by any real definition of the word. She doesn't even look close to an unhealthy weight
The heart is a VERY delicate muscle that can be affected by such things and given how much this game makes its players care about the characters, it makes sense that people would be concerned about this with Futaba. Selebus has done an incredible job at making these girls as human as he can and that comes with the potential to make us concerned for their well being not just based on events, but based on health and other issues that really only affect real people, not that Futaba could die due to strain too great for the heart to handle since she's still not real and doesn't actually have a heart to strain, but the game has such quality writing as to make us feel as though she is someone who could because of how human she is written to be.The above does remind me of how great the lengths some with go to to justify putting down or even discriminating against those who are heavier than they think they should be. We've had to live with such words from "Concern Trolls," people who will insist that they are putting us down "for our own good," for much of our lives.
I think you misunderstand. I have seen many on this thread citing "she's unhealthy" as the reason to reject her. How is that a "concern for [her] well being?" If you were not writing in support of those who would reject Futaba, then I misunderstood you intention. I'm sorry if I did. Your arguments seemed, to me, to be supporting the anti-Futaba, "No fat chicks," contingent.The heart is a VERY delicate muscle that can be affected by such things and given how much this game makes its players care about the characters, it makes sense that people would be concerned about this with Futaba. Selebus has done an incredible job at making these girls as human as he can and that comes with the potential to make us concerned for their well being not just based on events, but based on health and other issues that really only affect real people, not that Futaba could die due to strain too great for the heart to handle since she's still not real and doesn't actually have a heart to strain, but the game has such quality writing as to make us feel as though she is someone who could because of how human she is written to be.
Not everyone knows what the point at which the body starts to take adverse effects from weight is and the people who don't aren't going to necessarily judge by how healthy she actually is, but by how unhealthy they think she looks based on their lacking knowledge. They would then reject her based on this, admittedly currently false, assessment.I think you misunderstand. I have seen many on this thread citing "she's unhealthy" as the reason to reject her. How is that a "concern for [her] well being?" If you were not writing in support of those who would reject Futaba, then I misunderstood you intention. I'm sorry if I did. Your arguments seemed, to me, to be supporting the anti-Futaba, "No fat chicks," contingent.
I agree. Above the "standard" weight or whatever that might be called, maybe, but fat? No.Futaba isn't fat by any real definition of the word. She doesn't even look close to an unhealthy weight
Agreed.I agree. Above the "standard" weight or whatever that might be called, maybe, but fat? No.
And adding a bit to the discussion below, while I agree that health is an important issue: First I don't see futaba being unhealthy. And second so long as you're healthy enough (and yes, enough. Nobody is perfectly healthy and living your everyday thinking about what's healthy and what's not is a pain so screw it) and comfortable with yourself I don't see the problem.
Agreed, I'm technically the opposite, considered underweight by medical standards, but not enough to be an immediate concern. I don't take any specific measures to try and raise my weight because I have not been told I am in danger from being underweight. If I was in danger, I would do something about it immediately, but I don't see a point in putting in extra effort without an imminent threat.I agree. Above the "standard" weight or whatever that might be called, maybe, but fat? No.
And adding a bit to the discussion below, while I agree that health is an important issue: First I don't see futaba being unhealthy. And second so long as you're healthy enough (and yes, enough. Nobody is perfectly healthy and living your everyday thinking about what's healthy and what's not is a pain so screw it) and comfortable with yourself I don't see the problem.
I definitely see that happening, maybe it will be more about improving how she handles herself socially than it will be about how she handles her appearance and apparent health. She seems a bit too cowardly and mousy at the moment for her own good. I mean, what if we see a new character come in and do the same thing Yumi does for actual nefarious purposes? She isn't currently able to stand up for herself and put her foot down against someone like that, so that is the most imminent threat to her right now, not her weight or any health concerns she may be at the mercy of sooner or later.Agreed.
I think Futaba's story is gonna be a lot more about improving her self-image and her self-confidence, over actually losing weight to "improve herself". The only thing really "unhealthy" about her at this point is her attitude towards herself.
She isn't really above average either. She's got big boobs and a large frame which apparently on the internet makes her a whale. You can only really describe her as big in comparison to her classmates. Her poor health, so far as we know, is due to her self-image causing her to starve herself so kinda the opposite of being caused by excess weight.I agree. Above the "standard" weight or whatever that might be called, maybe, but fat? No.
And adding a bit to the discussion below, while I agree that health is an important issue: First I don't see futaba being unhealthy. And second so long as you're healthy enough (and yes, enough. Nobody is perfectly healthy and living your everyday thinking about what's healthy and what's not is a pain so screw it) and comfortable with yourself I don't see the problem.
I agree. Above the "standard" weight or whatever that might be called, maybe, but fat? No.
And adding a bit to the discussion below, while I agree that health is an important issue: First I don't see futaba being unhealthy. And second so long as you're healthy enough (and yes, enough. Nobody is perfectly healthy and living your everyday thinking about what's healthy and what's not is a pain so screw it) and comfortable with yourself I don't see the problem.
I think a lot of my reaction this week has been about Futaba's story after the beach vacation, trying to take unhealthy steps to change her body. I made me feel so much compassion and empathy for this fictional character. I didn't want anyone putting her down!Agreed.
I think Futaba's story is gonna be a lot more about improving her self-image and her self-confidence, over actually losing weight to "improve herself". The only thing really "unhealthy" about her at this point is her attitude towards herself.
The question is, how much can we trust a developer who has a name that sounds like that of a demon? Perhaps the demon of class subject outlines...It's all up to Selebus how that gets handled.