The Happy scenes are definitely part of the overall story. You didn't like it, and that's fine, but I thought it might be helpful to try and give my perspective on them.
Yeah, i feel like 3~4 chapters should be the target.
It doesn't need it, but we're doing it anyway, now by developer request, you could say. It isn't about changing minds for me, it's about letting people know what negative effects are going on as a result of their actions. Education is effective on any topic, getting them to stop would be a bonus, though.Noble words spoken in a piracy forum.
Why does this thread need regular piracy discussions? It's not like anyone changes their mind. Some will never pay and will always pirate, some will always pay and some only pay occasionally.
It's almost as bad as the NTR discussion that some threads here can't go without.
I prefer the weird LiL Lore discussions in this thread, even though I can't even keep up most of the time.
This game is VERY effective at playing with your very real emotions, you don't want to know how genuinely angry I get at player Sensei sometimes.
Saying 'a lot' would probably still be an insane understatement. This thing seems to be essentially going fora novel in VN form, though the word count has already passed some of the highest count works known to mankind, like the bible. Who knows, he might be well on his way to setting a record with it.
Well said, this perfectly sums it up.
Nah, it won't. I have total confidence that Selebus will see this through with the same quality from start to finish. It's not like this is a money project, he's making it because he wants to, the money aspect only comes in where we get involved, but he has every intention of finishing the game. It is a passion project.
Yeah i'm totally cool with others liking it, we're all different people. Thanks for being respectful, i was honestly expecting to cop some serious hate for saying something negative, as usually happens on the internet. Anyway, good luck to everyone who likes this game.
Nah, this game, and the Denpa genre in general, just isn't for everyone. There's always going to be people who don't like something, there would probably be people who don't like that it wasn't a Denpa game if it wasn't one. You can't please everyone and the game typically suffers in general if a developer even tries to.
I don't expect to change anyone's mind, but I respect Selebus' work enough to try. I am always amazed by the mental gymnastics that people can go through to argue that a) piracy somehow isn't wrong, or b) piracy is wrong, but this specific form of piracy I am doing is somehow not wrong.
Hey, I love this game and I can't guarantee that when we get to the really bad parts I will be able to stay with it, so I totally get your point.
For me, I interpreted Selebus's most recent comment as him outright wanting us to speak out, so I am doing as he wants. That said, my only intent is to educate about the harm it causes. I actually haven't heard a whole lot of argument A here, other threads, yes, but here it's mostly the use of the 'this is a piracy forum' argument, which doesn't really do much. I have actually never heard argument B, everyone here does seem to acknowledge what they are doing is wrong.
I've pretty much vowed to stick with it even if I get seriously uncomfortable. I've already had some discomfort from some of the 'happy' scenes, but you already kind of said it, the most severe is yet to come. This ride is far from over.
1. As would I be if I wasn't a patron. In my defense, as weak as my defense is, I didn't know it was getting a free release at all when I was pirating this game.
It's just going to keep coming back up for as long as the leaks persist. Are you sure the horse hasn't fossilized at this point?
I keep my piracy to absolute last resort territory. If I cannot ever legitimately get a game, I pirate it. Games like this, knowing what I know about it now, I would not because there is no reason driving me toward piracy. The other case would be one where, even with the funds to buy it, I cannot because it is not available to me legitimately, but this only has a time limit.
Yes, I can. It got exposure, which is a positive. It cost the game new patrons, which is a negative. Those cancel out to become neutral. Now, without the positive of exposure, it is serving a negative purpose. 1.6K patrons of 3M views is ONLY 0.053333333333333%, not even 1% are patrons, so the views are meaningless, and that's not taking into account that not every single patron came from here, which lowers the number even further. You're giving wait too much credit to the pirate community, myself included. Sure, some will do what you say, but most won't because it goes against their reason for pirating in the first place. The pirates who only do it out of a lack of legitimate options are not in the majority.
I know I'm nitpicking on this, but the way you worded it makes it sound like the people who "didn't enjoy it that much" can't pay when that isn't necessarily true. That's not a case of can't pay, that's a case of won't pay, there is a major difference. I mean, yeah, this is a pirate site, so that's fine, sort of. It isn't morally correct and it does harm the developer economically as he does lose potential patrons when people decide to pirate instead. I'm just pointing that out, though, the people that won't probably can pay and just refuse.
No, what made him succeed is his hard work and dedication to the project even in the face of the leaks.
This is not and has never been true. Piracy is a bad thing no matter how you try to justify it. Theft of any kind is bad.
His Itch.io, Patreon, and SubscribeStar are all publicly accessible, VNDB has a page about the game, there are several non-pirate sources of information.
Trust me, absolutely nobody is prepared for those going into this game, even having read the tags.
She's still at the bottom of my list, right next to Sensei. She is improving, though, while he seems to have moments and then almost immediately slips right back
