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Why stop at Kaori?I think more in terms of this:
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Yumi walks in on Akira and her dad.
Why stop at Kaori?I think more in terms of this:
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YesLooks like Sel met his 10k stretch goal. That means the bonus Rin and Sana animation will come with the next update.
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No. He has to many excuses not to use themThat means the bonus Rin and Sana animation will come with the next update.
Sounds like all of them are cloning lilNo, that song is considered to be the first "robot" song or something like that. That's why it's widely used among some creators.
Sorry if you've already explained this somewhere else, but my thought was that she is Akira and Ayane's child that got "erased" from the time skip.You guessed it, it's time Moonflare ranted on why Himawari's name is Ami again. This will be kindashort(I tried guys) since it's just a new piece of information to add to the rest (there is a second one at the end though).
Well, there are a few things of note. It's not impossible that Himawari is the baby that was taken with the reset, but it's just as likely that she isn't because she already showed up way before it, as early as "the room with clocks"/"scientific research". So, if she had to time travel to show up before our Ayane got pregnant, then it's just as likely that she could be the baby of a million other Ayanes, or this one in a later point in time. If not, then we'd have to assume that Himawari's first existence is within our current cycle and that she somehow time-travelled. If she was the baby of another Ayane at another time, then she grew up in her own time and it's acting in this new cycle as well (after all that happened). I don't see enough evidence yet to declare it either way.Sorry if you've already explained this somewhere else, but my thought was that she is Akira and Ayane's child that got "erased" from the time skip.
That would explain why she refuses to take on Ayane's form as the only stipulation of what she won't do. They also allude to how she is not supposed to "be there yet". I took that as that was her from "the future" if it had ever come to pass. But since she was swallowed by the time loop, that she could be any age technically.
Then she jumped in and helped Ayane out after Ami abandoned her in the woods. (I could see the Ami argument kind of here, since maybe she explained to Ayane how she was the real Ami and told her some information that gave her the confidence to confront "Ami").
The fact that you gave a name earlier too, made me feel that the name reveal for her would be whatever name you gave before when it asked.
Edit: I see Moonflare posted before me, but I think this still might help clarify things.Sorry if you've already explained this somewhere else, but my thought was that she is Akira and Ayane's child that got "erased" from the time skip.
That would explain why she refuses to take on Ayane's form as the only stipulation of what she won't do. They also allude to how she is not supposed to "be there yet". I took that as that was her from "the future" if it had ever come to pass. But since she was swallowed by the time loop, that she could be any age technically.
Then she jumped in and helped Ayane out after Ami abandoned her in the woods. (I could see the Ami argument kind of here, since maybe she explained to Ayane how she was the real Ami and told her some information that gave her the confidence to confront "Ami").
The fact that you gave a name earlier too, made me feel that the name reveal for her would be whatever name you gave before when it asked.
That part about the kick to the shin finally made sense to me, thank you. Sometimes I can really picture Himawari being the first "normal" person in their family, born at a time after all the fucked-up shit.Edit: I see Moonflare posted before me, but I think this still might help clarify things.
Yes, the consensus is that she is Akira and Ayane's child. I haven't seen anyone seriously argue otherwise. What isn't certain is her real name. What Moonflare is arguing for (and I also support this position) is that her given name is Ami, i.e. she has the same name as her cousin/half-sister.
As a preliminary, if you're not already aware, the community refers to her as "Himawari" (Japanese for sunflower) because she tells Akira to name her after his favorite flower, which is later established to be sunflowers. There are also a few references to Himawari in the game, such as HimawariCo.
To be really brief, this is what I think is the strongest evidence for her actual name being Ami:
I would say that the last one also makes it definitive that Himawari has a particular name, it's not just up to the player.
- Ayane talks about the possibility of giving the name Ami to a future child on three separate occasions.
- During the Untitled Children's Show, Himawari as Ayane says that she picked a name for her baby that she knows Akira would like. As far as we know, Ayane doesn't know about Akira's love of sunflowers.
- At some point (I think in Maya's festival), Himawari tells Akira that her name is "hilarious, a real kick to the shin". "Himawari" isn't a funny name, but being the second person named "Ami Arakawa" would be.
Assuming that she's the narrator who calls herself "your kick to the shin" in Chapter 4, it does seem like she has good memories of a wholesome relationship with her father. So I'm hopeful that we'll get to see that, maybe in Ayane's purity route.That part about the kick to the shin finally made sense to me, thank you. Sometimes I can really picture Himawari being the first "normal" person in their family, born at a time after all the fucked-up shit.
Can you imagine the little trickster being like "yeah dad, you have two daughters and they both have the same name, real kick to the shin that one, hilarious! You're not at all a goober for that, no sir!" then she also maybe had a knack for imitating all their friends, and would like to dress up... Akira and her would have no sexual vibe at all, and she'd know how to deal with his blackouts.
Man, I really want that day to come - and if it came to pass, it would perfectly sum up the "I'm all you never wanted, and everything you'll ever need" - with her being a normal daughter in a healthy relationship.
Also dont forget the fact that during one of those happy event sequences where it was revealed that Himawari has a contract with these disgusting gods it was confirmed that Ayane was pregnant but didnt tell Sensei!Edit: I see Moonflare posted before me, but I think this still might help clarify things.
Yes, the consensus is that she is Akira and Ayane's child. I haven't seen anyone seriously argue otherwise. What isn't certain is her real name. What Moonflare is arguing for (and I also support this position) is that her given name is Ami, i.e. she has the same name as her cousin/half-sister.
As a preliminary, if you're not already aware, the community refers to her as "Himawari" (Japanese for sunflower) because she tells Akira to name her after his favorite flower, which is later established to be sunflowers. There are also a few references to Himawari in the game, such as HimawariCo.
To be really brief, this is what I think is the strongest evidence for her actual name being Ami:
I would say that the last one also makes it definitive that Himawari has a particular name, it's not just up to the player.
- Ayane talks about the possibility of giving the name Ami to a future child on three separate occasions.
- During the Untitled Children's Show, Himawari as Ayane says that she picked a name for her baby that she knows Akira would like. As far as we know, Ayane doesn't know about Akira's love of sunflowers.
- At some point (I think in Maya's festival), Himawari tells Akira that her name is "hilarious, a real kick to the shin". "Himawari" isn't a funny name, but being the second person named "Ami Arakawa" would be.
Nah but if himawari being Akiras and Ayanes child from a previous cycle happens to be true,that means that Ami allowed that to happen.Crazy stuff.That part about the kick to the shin finally made sense to me, thank you. Sometimes I can really picture Himawari being the first "normal" person in their family, born at a time after all the fucked-up shit.
Can you imagine the little trickster being like "yeah dad, you have two daughters and they both have the same name, real kick to the shin that one, hilarious! You're not at all a goober for that, no sir!" then she also maybe had a knack for imitating all their friends, and would like to dress up... Akira and her would have no sexual vibe at all, and she'd know how to deal with his blackouts.
Man, I really want that day to come - and if it came to pass, it would perfectly sum up the "I'm all you never wanted, and everything you'll ever need" - with her being a normal daughter in a healthy relationship.
I agree with you generally, but also see where he's coming from. There has to be a purpose as to why something is or isn't explained in a story, and getting it wrong ruins it. We leave things ambiguous or unknown to heighten intrigue, prolong reveals, encourage speculation, and to keep consequences unknown (e.g., if we're just told who is the mastermind of an event and that they just did it because they're a dick, then this thread goes from 2000 pages to 100 and the game becomes half the length, and boring.) The problems come when things aren't unexplained, but an (appropriate) explanation is needed or earned. Then we're left with contrivances, shattering of immersion, a purposely vague story that's unrewarding, and the feeling that we got cheated out of part of the story and its justification. We're left feeling like the writer just wanted something cool to happen no matter how stupid it is, or how little reason for it exists. Oh hey, Palpatine's back!About a subject someone mentioned earlier. Sure we don't need everything answered but if by the end we still are mostly unsure about the major points then that will suck.
I can't believe I saw what you wrote, and still just instinctively opened the spoiler. Monkey brain needs to slow downI don't make pony porn. I just make cute ponies and centaur/horse girl porn.
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Or you should just trust your intuition and enjoy itI can't believe I saw what you wrote, and still just instinctively opened the spoiler. Monkey brain needs to slow down
How is Akira's deceased older brother and pareidolia even related? I've completely lost track of what's going on with the theories in this thread latelyBut to whom did 79 and Moyo serve to? Pareidolia or Nozomu?
79 and Moyo are "freelancers" aka supernatural entities that call themselves "children of the clockwork", and seem to change allegiances between gods throughout the game. They are seen (presumably) serving HOPE multiple times (like collecting Akira's sperm inside his church).How is Akira's deceased older brother and pareidolia even related? I've completely lost track of what's going on with the theories in this thread lately