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I'm telling you, it's peak comedy today. Weren't the guys from that band the ones that contacted Selebus in the first place because they were fans of the game?
"How do you do fellow musicians? Totally radical concert by the by, but i have to inform you of some unsavory villain using your sweet tunes in his degenerate porn game *tips fedora*"
"Excuse me how the fuck did you break into this room?"
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Hmm. I think the point of divergence IS important — but I guess we don’t have that information. And unless Maya-in-Heaven manages to stop crying long enough to share that, I don’t know how we’d find out
I see what you did there. lol
Big W if true tbh. People need to be more open about their interests.
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The Mug Menace is at it again.
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TSS 4: Den Of The Mug Monster
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Well, someone got their
Obscure reference, but everytime I see Nao-chan and her mugs I'm reminded of Muggy, from Old World Blues DLC for Fallout New Vegas.
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Just to give my 5 cents on the Good Kid discussion:
I don't mind their music, it's quite alright actually. But it just felt like it doesn't fit the game, neither thematically, nor musically. It was just too wild, loud and distracting.
And the constant 4th wall breaking was cringe and needlessly broke immersion.
I treat the whole Imani Wars episode as a fever dream that never really happened.
Also:
One thing that always bugged me is that Prime Maya has supposed to have lived through thousands if not millions (!) of resets. And it has been repeated enough for me to assume this is not supposed to be treated as a hyperbole.
Now, I will just assume that Sel has not thought it through and my annoyance with this is futile. But there is simply no way that this would be anywhere near possible.
First off, having lived through millions, or even a few thousand, of resets, would make Maya's (mental) age exceed any human being by far. Not only would that have enormous negative effects to one's mental state (and by that I don't mean making Maya "cool and reserved" and somewhat arrogant and all-knowing), it would also make it near impossible for her to reliably remember anything about any previous resets, let alone small details like if Ami ever worked as a maid just once during the previous million timelines.
I just don't understand why Sel chose such a ridiculous amount, and again, if there is any indication that this is meant to be highly exaggerated, please let me know.
Because either, Prime Maya was actually massively mentally fatigued, to the point that she must have been probably hallucinating half of the time, as her capacity for retaining memories would have had to be exceeded at least tenfold. Or, it just felt like she lived through millions of resets, and actually there were only a couple hundred that lasted like 3 days (she did mention that she often just fucked the "bad" Akiras and made them disappear in front of her, I assume making people disappear liek that accelarated the resets? I might remember wrong) and maybe around 50 full on (almost) 1- school-year worth of resets. Which would still make her extremely frustrated and emotionally vacant, but at least to a realistic extent that would be plausible.
Unless those agonizing millions of resets... *puts tinfoil hat on*... made her into a makeshift god/timeless narrator. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/rant over
I don't mind their music, it's quite alright actually. But it just felt like it doesn't fit the game, neither thematically, nor musically. It was just too wild, loud and distracting.
And the constant 4th wall breaking was cringe and needlessly broke immersion.
I treat the whole Imani Wars episode as a fever dream that never really happened.
Also:
Huge if true. I always wondered if smaller musicians reach out to some of their favorite creators to be included without having to pay for licensing. Though I imagined it's more difficult when it's for an adult game, given that it could be more bad than good publicity.
I'm quoting you only symbolically, because the whole discussion "what does Prime Maya consider new" etc. brings me to a topic that I meant to bring up for the longest time:
One thing that always bugged me is that Prime Maya has supposed to have lived through thousands if not millions (!) of resets. And it has been repeated enough for me to assume this is not supposed to be treated as a hyperbole.
Now, I will just assume that Sel has not thought it through and my annoyance with this is futile. But there is simply no way that this would be anywhere near possible.
First off, having lived through millions, or even a few thousand, of resets, would make Maya's (mental) age exceed any human being by far. Not only would that have enormous negative effects to one's mental state (and by that I don't mean making Maya "cool and reserved" and somewhat arrogant and all-knowing), it would also make it near impossible for her to reliably remember anything about any previous resets, let alone small details like if Ami ever worked as a maid just once during the previous million timelines.
I just don't understand why Sel chose such a ridiculous amount, and again, if there is any indication that this is meant to be highly exaggerated, please let me know.
Because either, Prime Maya was actually massively mentally fatigued, to the point that she must have been probably hallucinating half of the time, as her capacity for retaining memories would have had to be exceeded at least tenfold. Or, it just felt like she lived through millions of resets, and actually there were only a couple hundred that lasted like 3 days (she did mention that she often just fucked the "bad" Akiras and made them disappear in front of her, I assume making people disappear liek that accelarated the resets? I might remember wrong) and maybe around 50 full on (almost) 1- school-year worth of resets. Which would still make her extremely frustrated and emotionally vacant, but at least to a realistic extent that would be plausible.
Unless those agonizing millions of resets... *puts tinfoil hat on*... made her into a makeshift god/timeless narrator. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/rant over
Yo this is so good, I love Twin Peaks and David Lynch. Did you edit that Wrigley's gum package or did you find it somewhere?
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No, I just put Himawari's face on it. I was also impressed by its quality.
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The wording of "animal stretch goal" makes it sound like an animal is getting stretched rather than doing the stretching.
Which would mean that my man Noodles is finally getting his well deserved lewd scene with Akira. (orgasm scene excluded, that was just some light petting)
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Maya Prime was actually considered "Broken beyond repair":
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She was probably just so used to being insane that it became normal. For example, Himawari couldn't keep up with her mind:
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Beyond a few outbursts, and hints at her killing others, and destroying everything:
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Of course, she could just be programmed to think she's been around that long:
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Then there is that whole MM note thing, which remains mysterious, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around her apparently triggering Psycho Ami, for centuries:
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Then again there's always M̶a̶d̶n̶e̶s̶s̶ false memories, so... maybe that could explain some things.
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I think Dean raises a good point, and it's something that I lightly touched upon when I talked about the philosophical implications of someone becoming someone else by losing their memories, to such an extent that it becomes a possible focus of discussion in a plot, but that I don't think Selebus intends to focus on.
DeSkel's explanation seems to be what's intended here: Maya Prime was broken, however that wreck was never meant to be seen by us in its true form, and very likely not even by her. I tend to think that it's either that her mind erased most of her memories naturally (for lack of capacity to hold them)/aided by her being unable to truly break since she's inside kumon-mi; or that she was tampered with by the mechanisms of the resets/makeshift gods (as Tsuneyo implies).
If Maya truly held to all those memories she'd have gone beyond the human condition a long time ago, as people simply cannot retain hundreds of years of memories. Borrowing from both time travel literature, as well as literature that portrays long-lived species such as elves and dragons, an often used explanation is that all those memories are there somewhere, but they get tossed into a sort of archived repository that isn't used in the day-to-day, like a locked partition. I also recall a story in which the immortal had thousands of notebooks about their own life, since they couldn't hold any memory over a thousand years of age (it'd be interesting if that's what's in her box, but no, that's unlikely for a variety of reasons).
On a final note, I'm pretty sure Maya said at one point that she didn't hold that many memories. Like, she remembered overall important points, but everything else became a blur. Which would be a fair explanation for it. But I don't recall when she said this, so it might be my imagination.
You know. Ill give it to this game. Ive never been much for feelings.
But ive found a new one. I didnt think i would ever feel homicidal rage. Let alone towards a bunch of fake gods just as fake as the ones we make up here.
Some things are just wrong. Ive seen actual crimes that have evoked a fraction of the agony ive just felt. And yet i yearn to devour more if only to see if one day even these shitty spectators might get what they deserve.
But ive found a new one. I didnt think i would ever feel homicidal rage. Let alone towards a bunch of fake gods just as fake as the ones we make up here.
Some things are just wrong. Ive seen actual crimes that have evoked a fraction of the agony ive just felt. And yet i yearn to devour more if only to see if one day even these shitty spectators might get what they deserve.
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The game can invoke nice feelings though, like Akira actually trying to comfort Wakana with no ulterior motive, like an actual friend.
Weird that that moment was allowed to happen without some existential fuckery or anything malicious happening.
Weird that that moment was allowed to happen without some existential fuckery or anything malicious happening.
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YET. You forgot to say yet.
Shhhhhhh.
I think the thing that keeps me coming back to this weird lil' game is exactly those visceral reactions. Whether they're positive (that Wakana scene, or the one with Osako), protective (many of them), appalled (Stomachache), or furious (again, many), LiL has made me care and respond over and over again. Astonishing, given that I don't even like the protagonist very much.
Can't say the gods in particular have ever gotten that reaction from me, though — I'm still not convinced they're not aspects of Akira's own f#$#ed-up mind, and to be honest when they show up, my main reaction is a groan of annoyance.
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Some things to add to the Maya memory stuff.
In "Rascal doesn't dream of Bunny girl senpai" anime, the MCs little sister loses her memory for two years and becomes a almost complete different person, and when she finally becomes her former self, it has a huge impact on her brother, who got used to her new self.
In "Farming life in another world" anime, a vampire says he has to erase most of his memories every 200 years, so he won't go insane.
Most importantly in LiL itself, Maya compares the tampering with the girls memories as "only one hard drive the whole household is using", "so it's expected to get full rather fast", "and some data has to be removed", or i guess get compressed.
That neither Sel nor Maya as a character, brought that idea up for her/herself is quiet interesting.
She should have had an "Oh wait" moment then and there.
In "Rascal doesn't dream of Bunny girl senpai" anime, the MCs little sister loses her memory for two years and becomes a almost complete different person, and when she finally becomes her former self, it has a huge impact on her brother, who got used to her new self.
In "Farming life in another world" anime, a vampire says he has to erase most of his memories every 200 years, so he won't go insane.
Most importantly in LiL itself, Maya compares the tampering with the girls memories as "only one hard drive the whole household is using", "so it's expected to get full rather fast", "and some data has to be removed", or i guess get compressed.
That neither Sel nor Maya as a character, brought that idea up for her/herself is quiet interesting.
She should have had an "Oh wait" moment then and there.