KnowNoHope

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A trinity is possible, and I've theorized about trinities in the past (the Maya/Long Maya/Moyo thing feels like one), but we're missing a third.

Unless, of course, Sensei is the third, which I guess is possible. It definitely feels like HOPE is trying to wake up something up within Sensei, so it would fit.
i'm going to stick with trinity idea, it meshes really well with my Id, Ego, Superego theories. that and add in all the visual representations that overlap with christian dogma for whatever reason, dead trees on hills with poetry on it, repeated uses of the cross, hands and birds been represented well haven't seen a crown yet.
all we need now is a triquetra showing up randomly, were there any in the church?
 
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akselx

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have you considered these entity's are all one in the same but different persona's... lots of religious christian overtones in this game referencing the trinity.
I don't think there's a need to go this far into metaphysics for the purpose of the discussion. It's better to treat them as separate entities, as they seemingly oppose each other and are distinctive enough from one another.
 

barglenarglezous

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Do we? I feel like we've been introduced recently. The fumbling narrator that doesn't have his own season. He's a concerned god, while others two a callous and indifferent (that was the epithet used, i think). Also, 3 users.
We have been introduced to three gods - Nozomu, the God who fucked the world into existence, the God of Wires, whose roots grew into the world from his mother's basement, and a much less vocal third god, who tries to find patterns in the chaos or somesuch.

But if the first god is himself a trinity, as was suggested in the comment I was responding to, we have only met two of its faces -- the voice that speaks through Yasu (which is also the one that Sana met), and HOPE.
 

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I don't think it is. After he did his purge, I still had access to public channels, but not subscriber channels. I had to link my Subscribestar account to get that back. So there is a non-subscriber role.

But after all the burned bridges, there may be some kind of vetting process to get on now.
ok when he burn it why did he do it? Mhh I normal do it when i dont want to get other into crossfire. Protect this people . but he is dev. so mhhh strange way to say it.... or not?
 

akselx

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whose roots grew into the world from his mother's basement
I don't remember this part. Remember where it's from?
But if the first god is himself a trinity, as was suggested in the comment I was responding to, we have only met two of its faces -- the voice that speaks through Yasu (which is also the one that Sana met), and HOPE.
Gotcha, you meant, like, "physically" met?
I am pretty sure one of the narrators is Daisy.
How so? Also, I'm pretty sure her name is Himawari.
 

barglenarglezous

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I don't remember this part. Remember where it's from?
The exact scene by name, no.

But when the God of Wires was introduced as concept, I remember there being a story about a man who shut himself into a dark room and watched the world through the internet, and he was in his chair so long he took root, and those roots grew into the world like wires. The "mother's basement" part might have been added by me because it's part of the otaku/gamer stereotype, and I mushed them together. My brain does stuff like that.


How so? Also, I'm pretty sure her name is Himawari.
That's a good option, actually. When she said her name was his favorite flower, I'd figured either Sakura (since he has talked about the cherry blossom shampoo she used more than once), but the fanbase had already been using Daisy for her name. The sunflower motif in some of the transition art would definitely support that name, though.

Sometimes when the narrator is speaking, the voice is almost identical to how she speaks to Sensei when they encounter one another.
 

akselx

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That's a good option, actually. When she said her name was his favorite flower, I'd figured either Sakura (since he has talked about the cherry blossom shampoo she used more than once)
That's was my exact train of thoughts.
Sometimes when the narrator is speaking, the voice is almost identical to how she speaks to Sensei when they encounter one another.
Need to re-watch to compare. But the reason I think one of narrators is Sekai is because from time to time, usually after big updates like this one, narrator starts going off in a really mentor tone, teaching us this and that. This has been the case since the very first beach update, it's even clearer at the end if this one. At first I thought it was Selebus breaking the forth wall, but there was a curious line at the end of this update, how the narrator is jealous of Yumi's chest. Ami's mother (as I'm still not convinced her name is Sekai) is, while bigger, of the similar delicate build and, since she was Sensei's Teacher, they might be a lot alike and it makes sense that sometimes it's hard to tell exactly when Sensei's narrations stops and her begins.
 
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barglenarglezous

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Looking forward to what you theory guys make of this update, i saw a few codes and what read like disguised data drops in the narrator's philosophical musings. Sekai being... i dunno... reborn? With powers? Just another facet of Sensei's broken psyche asserting itself as he is slowly piecing himself together? As i've said many times, this shit is beyond my feeble mind, i rely on you guys to write shit about them that makes me go "oooooh... intredasting...".
I am now conceding the point that Sekai is actually her name after getting called out like that (just @ me next time Selebus, sheesh), even though we are told very explicitly not to take everything at face value and then given an obvious metaphor, so of COURSE us overthinkers are gonna chase that. Digressing.

Now we have a complication with regards to her appearance in this update, however, because we have an established character who can wear anyone's face. I'm not suggesting it was ONLY Doppelganger Flower Girl, but at any point in time, it COULD be. And i'm going to need to go through this a couple more times before I'm comfortable saying definitively whether or not Doppelganger Flower Girl was posing as Sekai at any given point during this update.

Sekai has the same power the angels do, apparently. That could be fun.

I am very interested to see if this means that Makoto and Futaba can now see the Angels the same way Sana can now.

I think we're getting very close to the end of Chapter 3, and I'm going to be spending the two months before the next update going back through the game to take better notes (I say that, I always forget to actually take them). I definitely need to pore over the game to note whenever I think Doppelganger Flower Girl is posing as someone, been wanting to do that ever since we got that reveal.
 

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That's was my exact train of thoughts.

Need to re-watch to compare. But the reason I think one of narrators is Sekai is because from time to time, usually after big updates like this one, narrator starts going off in a really mentor tone, teaching us this and that. This has been the case since the very first beach update, it's even clearer at the end if this one. At first I thought it was Selebus breaking the forth wall, but there was a curious line at the end of this update, how the narrator is jealous of Yumi's chest. Ami's mother (as I'm still not convinced her name is Sekai) is, while bigger, of the similar delicate build and, since she was Sensei's Teacher, they might be a lot alike and it makes sense that sometimes it's hard to tell exactly when Sensei's narrations stops and her begins.
I definitely agree that Sekai is the endgame narrator for this update. There's also the fact that narrator concludes her introduction to the Maya epilogue with "it's okay to cry, even if there's nothing to cry about" and then Ami says the exact same thing.
 
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Raf-Raf

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Hmmm reloaded my saves a few events backwards and I can't seem to get the last Kirin event even with the correct choice.
Do I need more than 30+ lust stat or smth?

I only have her at 30...
F- I needed Miku lust to 10, I didn't even know you can raise hers, *screaming.exe plays*
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


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Raf-Raf

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A'ight that's it.
Just like in-game, time to do a reset...
Time to make a new fresh save all because I missed a single f-ing event, not gon' resort to save editing.
It's kinda good 'coz this way, I can compile all the answers for the resets / IQ TESTS from my own POV.

FU## MY LIFE!!!!
 

TheGuyWithB

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A'ight that's it.
Just like in-game, time to do a reset...
Time to make a new fresh save all because I missed a single f-ing event, not gon' resort to save editing.
It's kinda good 'coz this way, I can compile all the answers for the resets / IQ TESTS from my own POV.

FU## MY LIFE!!!!
Same thing happened to me with a Yumi event, thankfully i save pretty often and i had a save on the exact spot where it cuts you off thankfully, but holy shit did that almost kill my motivation to play the game
 
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