JohnnyRazer

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My man, I get you on so many levels. Thanks for voicing this. Have a spare place on the fence?

Anyway I read his rant and while I do agree with some points, it's overall an undisguised conceit. Well, whatever suits the man. I too don't intend to waste anymore time on this pointless dispute.

Also, as I got it, he will try to implement some kind of DRM in the future. I just want to believe he has decency not to stoop down to any malware.
 

Plant Number 2

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Anyone willing to post any good screenshots of Selly melting down on discord? I'd go and have a look myself but you need a proper account with a phone number to get past the welcome mat and like hell i'm giving discord my number. I need more popcorn entertainment.
Believe it or not he's actually been pretty composed on discord, he has only really posted a super long announcement post talking about the situation:

 

worthlesspeon

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Also, as I got it, he will try to implement some kind of DRM in the future. I just want to believe he has decency not to stoop down to any malware.
He's frankly not skilled enough to implement any real DRM. That much should be apparent just by looking at the spaghetti of "code" in this game. He's also very much against asking for help. So there'll never be any noteworthy DRM.
 

ocworld

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Also, as I got it, he will try to implement some kind of DRM in the future. I just want to believe he has decency not to stoop down to any malware.
You just give him idea.Also why he start saying the piracy is bad,yes piracy is bad but even developers forums indie developers trying put some ground discussion.
 
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ocworld

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I went to college for game development, and whenever the question of piracy came up the answer was always the same: "Piracy is a nice problem to have"
People only pirate popular games.
And the only people who actually believe piracy leads to lost sales are out-of-touch business executives. Most developers shouldn't even bother with DRM.
 

JohnnyRazer

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You just give him idea.Also why he start saying the piracy is bad,yes piracy is bad but even developers forums indie developers trying put some ground discussion.
I didn't give him an idea, because it's already there. Normally I wouldn't even doubt in his decency, but recent events and a few posts from him I saw on Discord gave me some minor concerns.

I went to college for game development, and whenever the question of piracy came up the answer was always the same: "Piracy is a nice problem to have"
People only pirate popular games.
And the only people who actually believe piracy leads to lost sales are out-of-touch business executives. Most developers shouldn't even bother with DRM.
Well, good luck with telling Selebus that.

He's frankly not skilled enough to implement any real DRM. That much should be apparent just by looking at the spaghetti of "code" in this game. He's also very much against asking for help. So there'll never be any noteworthy DRM.
I certainly don't want to verify it. And didn't he get some help with the website?
 

LooLoo Baloo

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A statement made by Selebus on discord following the recent events. Now with 40% less hostility.

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I'll focus on the sentence where he says it isn't greedy for him to want to have people pay for a product he's selling, because it's the only important thing in his rant. So yet again he's shot himself in the foot. The fact he freely admits to committing and profiting from piracy while trying to say he's a victim of it wasn't the brightest thing to do. Especially in a statement from his personal account like this.

The reason why this and any other game like it won't ever make it to steam, is because Illusion would demolish them in court and take everything that they have. For stealing from them and committing piracy. The reason why indie developers like Selebus get away with robbing the company's assets and selling it on as their own is because getting paid monthly donations on Patreon or SS isn't legally the same as directly selling it on the market with a set price to be paid. He is without a doubt the most toxic, self destructive and un-self aware developer I've ever seen in my life.

Nobody asked him to send his minions to harass an entire forum, or to share the mods email in his discord and tell everyone to mass spam it. He did that himself. And now he complains like a baby when attacking the people he hates doesn't work out for him. He needs to live with his choices.
 

Black Raven

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He's on a break, but he's coordinating hate raids and you yourself reposted the gigantic rant he just wrote
Well he's entitled to do whatever the fuck he wants while on his break ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm sure you're also grossly overestimating the time all of this actually took him, can't be more than a few hours total.
 

vehemental

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I think vitriol might be an understatement given that several discord members in Pat Chat wanted to zipbomb F95 users.
Very well-reasoned, high-level discourse. Man, isn't it the peak of irony that literally every single person there values their account here too much to bring that kind of rhetoric outside of their hugbox? Incredible :ROFLMAO:
 

jamyong

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this thread is so much better when the discussion revolves around lore theory and predictions about the game. even the constant requests for puzzle answers and how to escape the broken world is better than a lot of the moral grandstanding that these Selebus vs The World discussions tend to produce. I admit it can be entertaining but it definitely drags on for far too many pages everytime this thread gets off track.

a lot of yall seem to not only be obsessed with Selebus drama, but also with other users here and their positions within that drama. it's kind of weird
 

jamyong

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So... will Yumi get her 10k$?
and if so...
What's she gonna waste it on?
I sure hope she does. I feel like she would help Chika with some expenses, or maybe even help them get a new apartment. She might get Sensei a present as well, which would be an adorable scene that he definitely does not deserve.

I could also see her buying a bunch of shit to resell at a higher price. She is a businesswoman, after all.
 

worthlesspeon

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this thread is so much better when the discussion revolves around lore theory and predictions about the game. even the constant requests for puzzle answers and how to escape the broken world is better than a lot of the moral grandstanding that these Selebus vs The World discussions tend to produce. I admit it can be entertaining but it definitely drags on for far too many pages everytime this thread gets off track.

a lot of yall seem to not only be obsessed with Selebus drama, but also with other users here and their positions within that drama. it's kind of weird
I'm sure there'll be more game discussion when there's more updates released. Pretty much every thread goes off topic when there's a hiatus.
 
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