Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[ReegusLeroy]

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After all this talk about Selebus and how his atitude towards this forum changed
I was looking up his old posts just to see how it was like
Imagine my surprised to found out he used to dub some "hardcore gay sex scenes"

And I know that some people here already knew this
but NGL I was really not expecting it ,
So if you are curious,

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's a sample (he's Gust and don't worry, this one is SFW )

Now I'm really tempted to run his voice through that new voice acting AI and make shitposts with it.

 

[Black Raven]

Damn which masseuse gave you such a bad handy that you began to dislike them and want people to get caught out stealthily engaging in asymmetrical polygamy that you want shit to hit an actual fan? We need to know for our sakes and the sakes of others.

It was Tatiana from the "Mon Amour" massage parlor in Bucharest, Romania. It is my life's defining trauma, i can't seem to get over it even after 12 years of therapy. And if i can't get a happy ending then why should any of you ? It's straight up unfair.

 

[leo18002]

whats the password for the care packages

 

[alex2011]

... anyone else wonder what would happen if you feed an AI writer the entire text and context of LiL and then told it to write an update...
I think that would be pretty funny
i wonder how many 4th wall breaks, unwanted advertisements, and random rants would be in it

Or it would break into a completely nonsensical line of plot, not kidding, AI has a tendency to break from the confines of existing lore and plot into things that make absolutely no sense. I've seen it happen in real time on more than one occasion, it's pretty funny, at least once you get around the frustration that it isn't doing what you want based on the parameters that already existed.

 

[akselx]

Or it would break into a completely nonsensical line of plot, not kidding, AI has a tendency to break from the confines of existing lore and plot into things that make absolutely no sense. I've seen it happen in real time on more than one occasion, it's pretty funny, at least once you get around the frustration that it isn't doing what you want based on the parameters that already existed.

You're wrong and "Harry Potter and the Portrait of what Looked Like a Large Pile of Ash" is a masterpiece.

 

[dantarium]

i dont know what would happen if you fed Lil to AI, but given the state of some make your own story/adventure D&D likes platforms there are: I am morbidly tempted to see iit will make Sana go on a rant about spagetti while Sensei the cat drinks a bottle of soda on Paradoias lap

 

[Black Raven]

Well now would be a good time to mention that something like this exist on discord (as a subscriber-only feature).

Frequently Asked Questions about AI
How does the AI work? The AI commands leverage OpenAI's GPT-3 to produce human-like text based on a user-provided prompt.
What's the difference between /ask and /ask-nodoka? /ask allows you to ask a question directly to a character from the game. The AI model was fine-tuned using the entire LiL script (as of February 2022) and will try to match the writing style of each character.

The results are often...Interesting.

(Can't pirate that now can you ? Suckers)

 

[KnowNoHope]

Or it would break into a completely nonsensical line of plot, not kidding, AI has a tendency to break from the confines of existing lore and plot into things that make absolutely no sense. I've seen it happen in real time on more than one occasion, it's pretty funny, at least once you get around the frustration that it isn't doing what you want based on the parameters that already existed.

and LiL... currently makes sense...
we the fans make shit up all the time to justify the nonsensical BS that happens from time to time
add in the unwanted rants, coke/shadow legends ads, and such... I dont think the AI could go off track to much... who knows maybe this is how Selabus actually wrote this game

 

[KnowNoHope]

Well now would be a good time to mention that something like this exist on discord (as a subscriber-only feature).



The results are often...Interesting.

(Can't pirate that now can you ? Suckers)

sounds cool, lets pirate the AI

 

[alex2011]

Well now would be a good time to mention that something like this exist on discord (as a subscriber-only feature).



The results are often...Interesting.

(Can't pirate that now can you ? Suckers)

Wait, what? I had no idea it had a function like that, I actually have a reason to use it now.

and LiL... currently makes sense...
we the fans make shit up all the time to justify the nonsensical BS that happens from time to time
add in the unwanted rants, coke/shadow legends ads, and such... I dont think the AI could go off track to much... who knows maybe this is how Selabus actually wrote this game

When I say it doesn't make sense, I mean in the sense that you could be asking it to write a story about a modern day society with no fantasy elements and suddenly your story's society is getting raided by orcs, a fantasy race. AI has a tendency to break out of what it was told to do and go in a direction it was told not to. That example comes from experience, it wasn't a modern day society, but there were no orcs in what I was designing until the AI suddenly put them in out of nowhere.

You could ask it to write an update, but don't be surprised when suddenly there are things that don't mesh into the story or universe of what you are updating. It's just one of the kinks that need worked out of AI at the moment, it will get fixed eventually.

 

[g6107419]

Well I took an interesting time to take some time away, came to quite the mess.

I've been supporting sel, I dislike the guy personally but find that the content is good. I can't really support it anymore, his actions are becoming borderline mental illness. I'm happy with the admins of the site, they did a great job at managing this odd event.

 

[Black Raven]

Well I took an interesting time to take some time away, came to quite the mess.

I've been support sel, I dislike the guy personally but find that the content is good. I can't really support it anymore, his actions are becoming borderline mental illness. I'm happy with the admins of the site, they did a great job at managing this odd event.

But don't you think it takes that kind of person to make that kind of game interesting ?

Selebus' adorable little quirks fuel his art. If you can't handle him at his worst you don't deserve his best.

 

[MagnusAxess]

Well I took an interesting time to take some time away, came to quite the mess.

I've been support sel, I dislike the guy personally but find that the content is good. I can't really support it anymore, his actions are becoming borderline mental illness. I'm happy with the admins of the site, they did a great job at managing this odd event.

Wait I haven't really paid attention to this in a long time what did I miss?

 

[KnowNoHope]

But don't you think it takes that kind of person to make that kind of game interesting ?

Selebus' adorable little quirks fuel his art. If you can't handle him at his worst you don't deserve his best.

not really, you have a ton of devs that dont behave like this. prima donna syndrome only leads to horrible things like a bunch of them banding together to eliminate everyone that isn't a prima donna and gate keeping the industry/community from anyone that doesn't want to like suck their toes or whatever it is they want
dont really think sel is that far gone but it is a slippery slope and shouldnt be encouraged

 

[Black Raven]

not really, you have a ton of devs that dont behave like this.

Obviously but none of their games are as good as Lessons in Love.

prima donna syndrome only leads to horrible things like a bunch of them banding together to eliminate everyone that isn't a prima donna and gate keeping the industry/community from anyone that doesn't want to like suck their toes or whatever it is they want
dont really think sel is that far gone but it is a slippery slope and shouldnt be encouraged

I don't think that's a very likely scenario for people like that to team up. I'm also not sure how they would even go about gatekeeping anything even if they did.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Obviously but none of their games are as good as Lessons in Love.



I don't think that's a very likely scenario for people like that to team up. I'm also not sure how they would even go about gatekeeping anything even if they did.

much like how everything is... control the media/word of mouth. prevent awareness so only the people they want to get publicized get it...

 

[Black Raven]

much like how everything is... control the media/word of mouth. prevent awareness so only the people they want to get publicized get it...

Yes yes, but how exactly do you think Selebus and a hypothetical gang of Selebus-like people would ever manage to reach a position where they have the power to do such a thing ?

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Obviously but none of their games are as good as Lessons in Love.

This statement is extremely subjective. The same as someone saying that there are no films as good as The Shawshank Redemption or Rain Man for example. Or no musicians as good as Bruce Springsteen or Lang Lang for another.
There will always be critics of the work of artists and creative persons of all stripes. A large part of being in that space will be learning how to handle that criticism in a healthy and positive way. Not in flying off the handle at people who disagree with you.
Behaviour like that which has been seen recently will ultimately become a doom spiral feeding on itself if allowed to continue as has been seen over the last few months. ie The more aggressive the language used to denounce certain individuals, groups, communities etc, the likely that people in those groups will take actions that will further irritate or wind up (for lack of better terms) just to spite the individual, which then is seen to necessitate a further response and so on and so on and it doesn't end. Ultimately events like that which has been seen recently could encourage even more people to leak or pirate his work simply to spite him which is the opposite of the effect I presume he wants.

Sometimes we need to run things past our own inner pyschologist before we say/write anything (which to be fair you could say of me and this). As an example your keeping a friend distracted from something happening outside you don't tell them not to look out of the window because they are likely to immediately look.

I would like to add as a caveat that I am not trying to enflame another argument or anything like that. I am to the best of my knowledge not directly affiliated with anyone who either develops or leaks any title on this site. I am just simply trying to call for calm on all sides.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Yes yes, but how exactly do you think Selebus and a hypothetical gang of Selebus-like people would ever manage to reach a position where they have the power to do such a thing ?

gain control of f95/itch for 'media' control' using plants, keep their head down till they have enough power to force decisions. much like how the video game journalist industry got destroyed in the last 10 years. infiltrate the industries that work as their money source in the same way, such as patreon/SS and 'cancel' things that compete with them.

this is so route in our current society that it really doesn't need to be pointed out

 

[Z3r0Sama]

Why are their so many best girls?!?!? Its almost impossible for me to settle on a top 3 with Rin, Maya, Yumi, Kaori and Molly constantly rotating their positions every update. I played this pretty much exclusively since the new year and have finally finished all the content and I feel a strange mixture of both empty/blown away.

Drama aside Selebus sure can write a compelling story.