Help! Finished Voice of Vibration and I can't continue Miku's events. Well I probably can, but I can't figure out how. Help!
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Honestly, I think a major issue for those who plan on replaying this game is seeing how the girls started. Yumi is definitely a fan favorite, but since she's so popular, her misdeeds are ignored, just like with celebrities, etc. Replaying the game will shove how awful she was into your face, and I'm sure that'll mindfuck a few people.
Legally, what Nodoka did is "worse" than what Otoha has done, but legality, common sense, morality, etc are all different things that depend upon one's environment and time period. Legally, Nodoka is also "better" than Otoha as well. She contributes more to society, likely understands the law far better, and if it came to it, she'd likely be proved not guilty for her crimes, while Otoha probably wouldn't. Them both being teens would likely help a lot either way, albeit a lot less so in Nodoka's case. While we're on the topic, Yumi is actually the only one that's committed a crime, and was punished by an authority for it. Assault and probably Attempted Murder in front of a class full of witnesses. Luckily for her, she's a teen princess.
Personally, I find both Otoha and Nodoka to be predictable. I get why they do what they do for the most part (good writing on Sel's part imo), and that's why I consider Otoha more disgusting. Of course, I likely see things different than others, as does everyone to different degrees. I don't see being "normal" as others have sold Otoha for being, as anywhere close to a desirable trait.
As for Nodoka, I'm leaning more towards her trying to keep those she cares about protected no matter the cost. Sacrificing everyone would leave Nodoka with nothing. I can definitely see her tossing the undesirables, and possibly even herself away, to attain the bigger "win" though. Nodoka knows she isn't worthy of a happy ending:
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So far, I don't really think that anything Otoha will do, will matter that much in the grand scheme of things. Unless she convinces Rin to kill herself or something, then that'll probably have some affect. I could also see some Sekai influence being teased with the whole "Little Brother" stuff. Idk, the characters are easier to predict than Sel. I wouldn't put it past Otoha to use whoever then rationalize whatever to keep herself happy though. More or less already doing that with Rin.
"The word of the day is: Perception". Yeah, Sel wasn't kidding with that whole thing. Altering the reader's perception "willingly" is rather interesting, and I wouldn't doubt that is a goal behind this work, for better or worse.
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Random, but in retrospect, I think Nodoka may have found a loophole so that she could fuck Sensei with Futaba's blessing:
Albeit, somebody better have been dying, or Nodoka intentionally hurt Futaba:
and has no excuse for fucking Sensei otherwise.
I'm curious how Nodoka will rationalize this once it comes out. The other stuff I can "understand", but how exactly Nodoka processed this is either going to be quite interesting or quite disappointing.
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I'm curious how Nodoka will rationalize this once it comes out. The other stuff I can "understand", but how exactly Nodoka processed this is either going to be quite interesting or quite disappointing.
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Miku love > 55 and visit her dorm on Sat; she will become unavailable for awhile after Voice of Vibration so just keep checking her dorm until the option appears.
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This 100% happened to me when i did my second playthrough a few months back, i'd forgotten so many scenes of Yumi being a complete cunt to Futaba, all i'd remembered it as is some minor picking on her, calling her fat at any opportunity, i'd forgotten all about the towel and showers bullshit.
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Lets summarize it a bit. Your point is that Nodoka does not understand other people. My point is that she uses it as excuse to do what she wants against their will. And if Nodoka does not understand reasoning behind emotions of other people, it makes her actions only worse. I.e. if you know why something is bad, you do known when it is OK and when it is not OK to do it. When you don't know, you would "accidentally" hurt people.
It is not that hard to understand, that if you friend has real issues with being exposed, she would be hurt when you place her in a book. It does not require deep understanding of why she has that issues
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By the way, doesn't Nodoka & Futaba relationships look more and more like abuse?
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Niki as Suisei, it kinda fits, and moonman seens to be Sana afterall.
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Lmao, the loli police department!
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Your point was actually: "Does it really sounds like
? It more like not give a single fuck about other's feelings when she does not want it"
However, if you're wanting to say that Nodoka takes advantage of not understanding others, then yeah, for sure. Nodoka takes advantage of practically everything she can. She very clearly takes advantage of Futaba's kindness:
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My point is it's more due to insensitivity than maliciousness. She simply didn't take their feelings into account instead of trying to hurt them. I can't hate her for that, but I do hate that she did this. If she doesn't feel remorseful for this, now that she's seen what it's done to Futaba though, then yeah, I'd say she's being an abusive friend.
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Well, I also had a break to make my thoughts cleaner
That discussion hit my sore spot a bit, sory for not being clean from startOkay, we are on the same wave here. The rest is just subjective.
By the way, I can see exact same thing in Otoha, but less intensive
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Nah, Otoha was definitely taking Rin's feelings into account. She just didn't approve of them. That's why she wanted Rin to give up those she loves like nothing:Well, I also had a break to make my thoughts cleaner
Okay, we are on the same wave here. The rest is just subjective.
By the way, I can see exact same thing in Otoha, but less intensive
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Recently though, she seems to hardly even care what Rin has to say:
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Yeah fuck it, Otoha's not even worth "fucking" as Tsuneyo would put it.
This seems to fit how I see her, after reexploring her "character":
This seems to fit how I see her, after reexploring her "character":
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All that shot does is make me want her to be tied up and forced to watch Akira NTR her.
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It definitely seems like it's being teased:
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Looks like I'm not the only one who's been playing a lot of Honkai: Star Rail
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Checking Ami's picture message in my good uncle save and oh boy what a dialogue variation this is
(I don't know how to pull out dialogues from texting so I made a slow gif to avoid pasting 30 snapshots)
I suppose it's a case where don't stick your dick in crazy actually makes the crazy crazier
(I don't know how to pull out dialogues from texting so I made a slow gif to avoid pasting 30 snapshots)
I suppose it's a case where don't stick your dick in crazy actually makes the crazy crazier
The only retcon I'm aware of, and that's because it was something I strongly opposed about the rework, is the Ayane bathroom scene as it changes her character drastically and did so in an extremely blatant way as if the change had a neon sign pointing right at it to make everyone look in its direction. For this reason, I also maintain the original scenes as my headcanon, completely ignoring the new events as far as story connectivity and only looking at them in case something comes up later in a puzzle as Sel has been know to pull that.
I also suspect a retcon in the first gym class scene as I swear it didn't used to portray Yumi ridiculing Futaba in such a blatantly malicious way, which destroyed one of my argument points with DesKel earlier. I'll need to check this when I start over next time I play.
Heck, Yumi's my least favorite and I still missed it, though I'm starting to suspect a retcon was involved where I was looking at when defending Yumi. I still maintain my position, but I do see where, at least in the new canon, Yumi does seem to be going even harder and fully intending malice.
Nodoka committing sexual assault, which in the real world is held as a higher crime than bullying unless a death results from the bullying, turning it to murder, is why I still maintain my position. A slap isn't too serious, it would be so much worse if she beat Rin harder like punches and kicks, but yes, this can be counted as physical assault.
You're right about that kind of person, typical dipshit teens are not uncommon, in fact, they are becoming increasingly more common here in real life. This kind of thing is what happens when someone hasn't learned the value of right and wrong and that actions have consequences that can reach well beyond the initial target of the action in question, can be extremely damaging to everyone involved, and can last for a very long time if they ever go away at all. Combine that with impulsive behavior and you can get something like what happened with Niki.
As far as Nodoka's moral compass, you're right, she can't be trusted, but neither can Yumi or Otoha. All of them have shown an ability and a will to cause potentially harmful things.
That would make for a great first Rin scene, have him win Rin over while still together officially with Otoha, have Rin trick Otoha into the same room, then make a show of betraying her right to her face with Sensei in the worst possible way. That would either (A) really screw Otoha up mentally or (B) teach her a lesson she wouldn't be able to forget if she tried and possibly make it so traumatic to try the same tactics she did with Rin again that she might just become better as a person.
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The Gym Bully stuff did seem to be edited in the rework, but as far as I can tell:
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It's the 'Super Secret Sex Dungeon' Main event in Chapter 1 if anyone else wants to check it out.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Yumi was actually toned down in the Rework like Ayane was.
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Well, my replay was after the rework and i found her to be much more of a cunt than i remember so either she's the same or worse, not better.