It is grooming when the goal is fucking them. Affection points, mate.
Honestly, I thought Sensei being insane by the repetition thing was a given. He does continue to do stuff expecting different outcomes at times. His life is very repetitive.
Nevertheless, his grooming definitely worked on Yumi and Rin. Yumi literally gave him the opportunity to do something to her, after he helped her:
He just fucked up with the Nodoka stuff before going for the kill, and Rin's more or less open for business whenever he wants her:
There's just a girlfriend in the way, and Otoha hasn't been groomed enough yet.
Sensei definitely expected that helping them would lead to him fucking them:
There's unquestionably an ulterior motive here.
Yumi also does like Sensei. She's tsundere. Nodoka did know, and that's why she did it. Yumi got cucked.
Ami is a little girl who Sensei has literally sent to her room when he wanted. Hell, she's even giving him space because he asked for some, and has straight up admitted she'd kill herself if he died. This point is just ridiculous. Sensei definitely had a choice and he chose to face fuck his niece infront of a girl that loves him. Ami was trying to cuck Maya though for cucking her. Noriko only got caught in the crossfire here, because Sensei's a slut.
Of course it matters who's worse, and "You don't really need a ranking once two or more people go into criminal territory", doesnt make any sense. Saying a word wrong can make you a criminal, but according to that statement, they might as well be a mass murderer, as it doesn't matter once you "go into criminal territory". I'd also put the likes of Kirin, and Yumi as worse than Nodoka. Not as bad as Sensei though.
Yes and that makes his other actions grooming, but it also disqualifies the actions I listed because he doesn't seem to be doing them for that purpose despite his overall goal. It isn't insanity in this case, his self questioning shows a thought process that doesn't involve expecting things to turn out differently than what is to be expected from the actions he took in the cases I mentioned, a result which in no way includes getting him closer to his overall goal.
As far as the giving him an opportunity, an
obvious test from Yumi I saw from a mile away, she's not the type to go from
being kissed against her will to actually
letting the person who did it have her. She wasn't letting him
potentially take a shot at her, she was
testing whether he would make a move if she dropped her guard and he just so happened to
pass to her admitted surprise.
Rin is still
pretty firmly on the girls side of her sexuality, but yes, has shown signs like in a specific past event of hers, I don't remember the in game name, but I think it is
dorm 45 in the code, where she
actively kisses him at the end on the good homie route. However, she's
currently dealing with Otoha, so
she isn't open necessarily, at least not yet.
She
does like him, this is apparent to the player and has been since the first Christmas event when she
gifted that notebook. If she still
fully hated him at that point, she would not have done so. However, even with this, she shows only
hostility and neutrality depending on the situation. In the cases shown in your comment above, she's
showing the latter, neutrality.
Neutrality is not an indication to most people that someone likes another, even for someone as smart as Nodoka.
Yeah, Ami's a little girl, but she's also
insane clinically speaking to the point where she would
take what she wants given the right, or would that be wrong, circumstances and would
eliminate any threat she became aware of. She
shows blatant hostility when he brings other girls over without even knowing the intent behind bringing them, even ones
she personally knows and has a good relationship with otherwise, and let's not forget her actions toward
Ayane and Maya, her best friends out of the entire cast. Yeah, he had a choice, a choice between letting what happened happen or being forced into what happened or worse, which is less an actual choice and more an illusion of a choice that was already decided for him. She's a devious little thing that will
do whatever it takes to get her way, even if it means
force. Also, you mentioned her
backing off a bit, this is planned, she
saw a threat to getting what she wants coming directly from Sensei himself and so she is
biding her time. Make no mistake, she is not
just backing down because he asked, she's doing it to avoid
the consequences of not doing so, which includes potentially
losing him entirely, a circumstance that must be avoided at all costs in her mind. That's how yanderes operate, they do anything and everything that is necessary to keep the relationship going.
Yeah, it matters who is worse when the characters are just doing bad things, but both of them did things that get the same general result, that's why it doesn't matter who is worse between these two. Both are going to end up doing some serious harm to another character at some point, that's what really matters and that's why it doesn't matter who is worse between two characters within
criminal actions territory. The next part I agree on, both could be mass murderers, doesn't matter how many victims each one had, they still killed four or more as per the definition and even a single death at their hands is bad enough that they both deserve the same thing, jail or worse. No, Kirin and Yumi aren't worse than Nodoka, Nodoka
committed sexual assault by making Yumi masturbate, Yumi is only guilty of
bullying Futaba, who is very much
still alive, so no
murder at this point, and Kirin is guilty of
blackmailing Ayane and Sensei. These are both not as severe as
Nodoka's sexual assault of Yumi.
Sensei isn't smart, he's a fucking idiot. He:
- got caught having sex with Ayane by Kirin. Literally could have prevented this by not having sex in the same hotel that all ten of your students could enter.
- had sex with Chika loud enough to be heard by Tsubasa, TWICE.
- somehow thought it was ok to allow Miku to use random drugs
and many more. He only gets away with everything because he is universally loved by every girl. That is basically how every story in this game is written:
Sensei does something bad -> Girl gets hurt -> Girl forgives Sensei anyways because she is head over heels in love with him.
I first read this game in v0.27 and it took me around 1 week of at least 12hrs/day.
Agreed, this game is incredibly wordy with lots of monologue, cryptic text, and needless banter every conversation. It should realistically be around 1.2M - 1.6M, maybe even 1M words.
I also think that Selebus might be intentionally drawing his game out to milk his patrons.
Oh no, he's not stupid because those things happened, he just didn't care enough to prevent them. He was focused on his main goal, which was being served in both of the first two points you listed.
The game is not being drawn out to milk the patrons, the game is being drawn out because this is not and has never been sex focused, it is and always will be story focused. With a story, you put in as much detail, build your characters up as much as, and build your world up as much as you possibly can. This has always been a passion project for Sel, we are simply being given the privilege of playing it instead of him keeping it for himself and in return we are providing him the ability to work on what he likes full time instead of having to take away time from it to go to a separate job.
