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Moonflare

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If it's girl on girl then it doesn't count as NTR
explain that to my ex girlfriend after she found out I slept with her sister.
Finally one I can mostly agree with.
I do find it funny how many people hate Haruka, no doubt the cheating takes part there despite our situation.
I couldn't care less about the cheating tbh. Surprisingly, I think Akira puts her in her place regarding that from the start, and he never takes a step back on that regard.

As for Haruka herself, her husband is gone for three years, there's no way of knowing if he's even alive, she took a chance on a new relationship and found out she liked it better - good for her. The issue is that she didn't go "I want to break up with my husband, it's just that I can't get a message to him." If she had the intent to break up with him I think a lot of people would be fine with it.

Obviously, the correct thing to do would be to break up with her husband before dating another dude, but again, war. Life is messy. The real issue with Haruka is that she's a predator imo. She hires teenage girls because she wants to have sex with them.
I just completed the beach vacation I don't know if I can keep playing I just want them to be happy
They will. You'll see such beautiful things. But lasting happiness? We're not there yet.
 

Antosha

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It's purely funny / horny dialogue. It doesn't even change based on how you've progressed. Iirc, only Uta's photo has a special interaction and you should save the game before you try it.
There's also an exchange with Otoha swapping nudes of Niki and Rin that does have minor plot impact.
 

Lux Perpetua

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If it's girl on girl then it doesn't count as NTR
Yeah, I can't take sex scenes between female characters as NTR either. It didn't even occur to me until I read about it in this thread. I just think that if I were a fan of the NTR genre and came across this game through a tags search, and then spent a lot of time reading the whole thing just to see those two scenes Otoha x Nikki and Ami x Maya, I'd be very disappointed, to say the least
 

Budoop

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I couldn't care less about the cheating tbh. Surprisingly, I think Akira puts her in her place regarding that from the start, and he never takes a step back on that regard.

As for Haruka herself, her husband is gone for three years, there's no way of knowing if he's even alive, she took a chance on a new relationship and found out she liked it better - good for her. The issue is that she didn't go "I want to break up with my husband, it's just that I can't get a message to him." If she had the intent to break up with him I think a lot of people would be fine with it.

Obviously, the correct thing to do would be to break up with her husband before dating another dude, but again, war. Life is messy. The real issue with Haruka is that she's a predator imo. She hires teenage girls because she wants to have sex with them.

They will. You'll see such beautiful things. But lasting happiness? We're not there yet.
Yeah this is why I don't hold much of a grudge against her either, she's not heard from him in three years, it is what it is.
I will say the way she tried to throw Akira under the bus was unhealthy of her, im glad Akira didn't take any shit from her in that event. Same with how she didnt get in touch with Maki, but she's at least tried to make up for that.

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Antosha

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So... Sana looks a bit worried. Is it Miku and the dildo that's got her concerned or is it Tsuneyo's noodles-in-aspic Christmas tree? :unsure:

If it's girl on girl then it doesn't count as NTR
Oh, god. Another conversation about what does and doesn't consitute NTR. Just what we all needed!

It's clear to me at this point: different people's infidelity triggers get set off by different events. None of it makes any sense to anyone else. No one is right. No one is wrong.

I mean, I get what you're saying, LiD—it makes perfect sense to me. It's a freaking harem game, with only one male character with a face. He's straight and (as Moonflare reminded us a few pages back) turned on by the idea of his girls doing the nasty with each other. (I doubt he'd love the Ami/Maya rape scene. But he's a weird dude, so who knows?) In my mind, how can a scene featuring two of the girls and not him possibly be whatever the hell NTR is?

But that's me (and you). Other people find those scenes vile and insupportable. C'est la guerre.

but it's going to get so so so so much worse before it get's better isn't it?
Yup.

Keep breathing. It's a long way down.


ETA: About that rape scene, a question:
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lolzmandude

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Yup.

Keep breathing. It's a long way down.
I'm not sure I can look at visual novels the same ever again. Then again, I thought DDLC did that when it first came out and I don't even know where this fucking game will end up if/when it will/won't be finished.
 

LessonsInDissonance

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So... Sana looks a bit worried. Is it Miku and the dildo that's got her concerned or is it Tsuneyo's noodles-in-aspic Christmas tree? :unsure:
Haven't you noticed what Ayane's holding?

I mean, I get what you're saying, LiD—it makes perfect sense to me. It's a freaking harem game, with only one male character with a face. He's straight and (as Moonflare reminded us a few pages back) turned on by the idea of his girls doing the nasty with each other. (I doubt he'd love the Ami/Maya rape scene. But he's a weird dude, so who knows?) In my mind, how can a scene featuring two of the girls and not him possibly be whatever the hell NTR is?

But that's me (and you). Other people find those scenes vile and insupportable. C'est la guerre.
I just can't for the love of Wires see girl on girl as an act of cheating ever, even if it's behind your back, even if they deepthroat each other with dildos and stuff their pussies with the other's fingers.
If it's a guy all it takes is a compliment and my extermination program starts booting.
 
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SlidingSubject

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I don't even know where this fucking game will end up if/when it will/won't be finished
Eh, it could be worse, like the myriad of games where the updates straight up stop or the author has IRL issues of any kind that pretty much mean the game is dead. At the very least, for Lessons in Love, it feels like either the game finishes in 6+ years, or it's stopped due to the ultimate inevitability, no inbetween.
In the end, this is all you can do.
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Antosha

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Haven't you noticed what Ayane's holding?


I just can't for the love of Wires see girl on girl as an act of cheating ever, even if it's behind your back, even if they deepthroat each other with dildos and stuff their pussies with the other's fingers.
If it's a guy all it takes is a compliment and my extermination program starts booting.
Fair enough. It would take more than that for me. But I've been married for a loooong time, I trust my wife—and trust her ability to rip the balls (or tits) off a person who hits on her and won't back off. ;)

(In all our years together, I've only had to intervene once—and it was because she was about to deck a drunk a-hole who wasn't picking up on her very clear signals—and my presence. I may have yelled at him a bit. But I know she would have handled it on her own just fine. He just would have ended up with fewer teeth.)

(OTOH... I did have one of my old girlfriends cheat on me. With another woman. In retrospect, the sex of the person she cheated with didn't matter at all. Wanted to strangle her—my girlfriend, not the other woman. So I guess I need to think this through some more.)

ETA: Oh, and yeah. I guess Sana could be worried about getting shot in the back.

But hey! It's not the assault weapon Ayane usually breaks out, so that's good, right?
 

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So either Miku was given a dildo for christmas or she's been practicing and is her christmas gift this year. Since Ayane would have any gun she'd want already, and no one would be foolish enough to give an obsessed ramen master ramen as a present, I'm assuming they're holding gifts for Sensei.

ETA: About that rape scene, a question:
This update will be very interesting to overanalyze for that reason. More importantly than Maya's reaction to her friend, let's see her reaction to Sensei. I have a feeling this will be a reset Maya, though that's purely on me leaning too far into my idea about amiokay actually being Nu Maya. (Though if this is Nu Maya at christmas technically that doesn't rule it out either, just that it isn't happening yet)
 
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