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Nobody would even notice until one of two things happen:
1) Kirin starts groping her sister
2) Kirin starts spouting the secrets of the universe and throwing an infinite number of coffee mugs.
1) Kirin starts groping her sister
2) Kirin starts spouting the secrets of the universe and throwing an infinite number of coffee mugs.
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I agree with you on lots of things but what the fuck
How is a 15 year old that flashes and proposes a quid pro quo relationship with her ? (not even teacher at the time) without even having her first kiss is realistic? Not even counting the sexual assault/blackmailing, AGAIN before even her first kiss.
Edit: I'm now confused on the timeline and it's possible that the kiss comes before the blackmailing, but the blackmailing can definitily come before the handjob if you refuse it.
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Her first kiss, if my memory serve me well, happen during the soirée with Sensei.
So way after all her blackmailing...
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- Sep 29, 2019
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I knew like 5 girls that'd flirt with Teachers, Drug Dealers, and Police, to get what they wanted, growing up. They'd also typically have boyfriends on top of that.I agree with you on lots of things but what the fuck
How is a 15 year old that flashes and proposes a quid pro quo relationship with her ? (not even teacher at the time) without even having her first kiss is realistic? Not even counting the sexual assault/blackmailing, AGAIN before even her first kiss.
Edit: I'm now confused on the timeline and it's possible that the kiss comes before the blackmailing, but the blackmailing can definitily come before the handjob if you refuse it.
I know for sure, one was pregnant (I mean, the belly was an obvious give away). Can't tell you if the Teacher was the daddy, though.
I'm also not the social type even if people tended to group up around me. That's just from casual observation. (Albeit, I did tend to be around the "bad kids" and boy would the girls in LiL be different if Men and Drugs weren't so suspiciously absent in this game for the most part.)
Anyway, I definitely don't see Kirin as anything special in any way, shape, or form.
I'd think most girls in her position would do similar. She really just wants attention, and it's not like Sensei was a random person. She already had a good idea that he was a pervert (and one at an all girls school), and Ayane was someone she's had a petty grudge, and a crush on, for likely years, then the opportunity presented itself. If that opportunity never did, then they're still friends.
Hence why optionally, Kirin and Ayane are still friends. At least, until next update, lmao.
- Jul 3, 2017
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Brother, I need to know your data statistical population, because you can't just get Futaba and Kirin and call them most realistic girls on average????
Hell I'll even say Touka, Makoto and even Molly are more realistic compared to Kirin.
The rest you said about Chika and Otoha was very interesting though, makes you wonder if Selebus has put thought into that.
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Yumi was/is one of the more "realistic" characters to me, although somewhat exaggerated. I Always saw a lot of subtlety in the way she was written that you could easily overlook in the earlier chapters if you only saw her only as the token tsundere. Whether or not that was entirely me projecting things onto her, I guess I can't say for sure. But I suppose everyone's answers will just depend on what girls resonated with them the most. Because there is nothing more "realistic" then your own experiences.
Jesus, my memory fail me. Tell me, since I'm too lazy to launch the game on my side, did Noriko make fun of her about being fucked before her first kiss?
Or I just swap thing?
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That doesn't really equate imo. Obviously this discussion is lighthearted as we're just debating made up characters, so I'm not taking this seriously as it all just boils down to Selebus. However, I think the issue is not that girls wouldn't do this, but that she goes from 0 to 100 out of nowhere. This makes sense inside the resets, but not really in real life. While certainly possible to hit on a teacher for personal gain, to straight up flash him while having no experience whatsoever in sexual matters is uncanny. To go from that to sexual assault and blackmail is even more so.
Aside from that, and giving my two cents: I agree that Futaba is one of the most realistic ones, but rather than Kirin, I'd add Otoha to the mix.
In fact, for all my distaste of her, she behaves exactly like a common teenager. In what world wouldn't she develop a crush on Niki and "shoot her shot", as the youngsters say, given the chance? Rin, for all I love her, puts herself time and time again in a position to be taken advantage of, and that's what Otoha does. As, sadly, a lot would in her situation. "A girl is throwing herself at me, while the one I want doesn't even see me, and I can use this person to get some experience to maybe have a better shot at Niki? Count me in". I wasn't always a mature old goth chick, and I don't know if in Otoha's position (and mainly age) I'd have acted differently. Well, I never cheated on a partner, so probably not that, but for all the rest, I don't know. So yeah, I think she's very realistic.
Haven't reached that point in the replay, I'll report back.
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DeSkel living in Kumon-mi with the rest of the gang, tanking those resets damn.
Anyways, I understand that Kirin displays traits of a normal teenage girl but most teenage girls, don't quote me on this since I never been one, try to deal with their desires in more of a method that fits their environment, in which case kirin doesn't fit any of those categories, she's written to be a female pervert to contrast her vanilla sister; if maybe there was more backstory on their family, there would be a better foundation for this discussion, but as of right now, if we're talking about realistic teenagers with this game, I believe it could be Futaba, and Otoha although I dread having to admit it.
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Okay, maybe I'm just focusing on the wrong thing and also slightly dumb and tired, but lol who's the person on the covers of the book, posing a bit too much man
- Sep 29, 2019
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Otoha has a completely ordinary home, is treated like a prince and crushed on by mostly everyone, is loved by virtually everyone (until the Rin stuff), and has virtually the most famous Idol giving her vocal lessons. Basically nothing has gone wrong for her, her entire life.
She's like a Mary Sue self insert by a teenage girl. I wouldn't be that surprised if she showed up with a vampire boyfriend from canada, then had to save prom from the rich girls or something.
Kirin seems like just a typical girl with a sister that makes her feel inferior, to me. I think you're underestimating just how irrational humans can be when they aren't happy with their lives, and want to be "enough" for someone.
I'd also consider Chika, Rin, and Yumi more realistic than Otoha, tbh. Chika is basically just my mother, except more stable lol.
Edit: let's also not forget that Otoha is basically a prodigy, that even the top Idol around sees potential in.
Edit 2: Actually Yumi is kind of fairy tale-ish as well. Even ignoring the Yakuza Princess stuff, the fact she's actually not given in to prostitution or drugs, is admirable as fuck. Basically every Yumi (male and female) I've known has, well, made Yuki look good.
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A prodigy? The top idol see potential in them and trains them personally? Crushed on by mostly everyone, and was loved by virtually everyone?
Everyone, that's not Otoha.
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They are, though weird spoiler Makoto does not have invite over sex to this day.
And yeah, 500 headpats per girl eventually if you want to 100% the game. (Though 100% probably has to have a discussion about buying the 'DLC's so probably best not to think about.
I don't know how you managed it but you got the Halloween event before the beach? That's weird. There's a bunch of discussions that I feel happen in response to what happens at the beach, like Yumi being a bitch at the beach, getting told off by Rin, and then still thinking over it at Halloween where she was more subdued. Makoto getting fingered at the beach and fucked at Halloween (I'm assuming here, maybe the game does handle it nicely). Then again you're on autovn so that author thought it made more sense or something? Still seems weird.
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DeSkel15 I think it was you that talked about the cat during that one Karin event and how it had no reason being there if it was supernatural? Maybe it was aramaug, well, regardless, here's a possible explanation:
Well, that may be a callback to Sekai being his sister? And that instead of protecting him, like Karin is trying to do here, she instead molested him.
Could also be more general towards the feeling of Nozomu also being his big brother and overall piece of shit, but the Sekai thing is more interesting since, well...
Anyway, not that big of a discovery. But I remember this being the one scene where there really was no rhyme or reason to why the cat was there, and maybe this could fit.
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Could also be more general towards the feeling of Nozomu also being his big brother and overall piece of shit, but the Sekai thing is more interesting since, well...
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Tsukasa asked a weird question and Chinami knows the answer (Chinami looks concerned so we can expect something interesting.Welcome everyone to wizard train, next stop Tsukasa Tsukioka, get ready to the worst outcome. Or the best if you like the things on fire.)
Well if my memory doesnt fail me there are a few scenes that can trigger if you have certain values at the beach trip. So if you didnt had the points or didnt see them through URM:
IIRC this beach were Kirin traumatize Ayane so after this if you have enough lust with Futaba, Sensei persuade her to flash her boobs. And the other missable scene (that i think its hard to miss but at the same time i dont remember if you can really miss it xd) its the handjob from Kirin. (but again i dont remember if you can miss it by lust or it happens anyways and ask you to choose)
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iirc it's futaba lust, ayane lust and ami lust being less than 10 meaning you lose some h scenes. Kirin you can refuse her handjob and the game will remember her being angry about it.