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You're free to say whatever you want, man! I'm really glad you're playing and I'm glad you treat the critique and theorizing as a second game.

Like many others on the Internet, I honestly just love being sarcastic and argumentative- and I don't think it's particularly harmful for developers to push back on critique if they adamantly disagree with it. There is plenty of stuff in the game that's been improved based on player feedback and I'm even setting aside two months of development time to rework most of the early game in Q1 of 2022 because the quality just...kinda sucks.

I've said and done many things that have caused various people to drop their support in the past. But if that's the cost for expressing myself, so be it. Hell, I lost a $100 patron just last week for calling them out on something they said in the Discord. If someone says something I think is silly, I'm gonna fuckin' let 'em know I think it's silly. I've got no obligation to listen to anyone, and they have no obligation to listen to me when I reply.

I'm proud of what I make and anyone who thinks I should just shut up and agree with all critique can touch my wiener.
I... just don't get it man, you've been so supportive so far to Molly, so many times she have been hurt by "real life", and always there was a person to help her, because in the end of the day she is just a teenage nerd.
I can understand the harshness at anybody currently - Maya is making Sensei to fail, so she is depreciated, Yumi is too stubborn and aggressive, it had to be done to break her confidence, Makoto is just making an excuse to have something, that was never there in the fist place, so she hurts every time she is reminded of that. Ayane hurts because Sensei is not capable to have a strong decision, or have courage to say no to another teenager, I get it.
So, why Molly suffers now, Selebus? She has been nothing but self-sufficient nerd, never asked for anything or tried to do some weird shit, but she was the target of the rape nonetheless, so either you wanted to go off at players because it would impress them how fucking reckless and powerfull and big dick energy you are, or it has SOME meaning to the Sensei's illness and that's why Maya hates him so much, it's the last stretch I'm giving it. I know that you don't care, but I do, and if you do this shit just to annoy or impress people - thats not what I'm looking for, so at least I'm gonna drop it, not that you would care, you have 11k support on your patreon man, you've alreay done better than you have imagined in the fist place, right? You deserve this power, and deserve to burn the whole place down, if you would care.
But, please, don't do that shit man, it's awful and that's exactly why there is so much money involved than just supporters.
I'm not asking you to be more soft with characters, you're the one, who knows how to move plot along, but this shit, makes me worry how much of a show off you are than a writer with a passion.
 

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I haven't played in roughly a year. Does the "get lust to 10 as soon as you unlock it" rule still apply to not miss any content, or has that risen?
Nothing has changed in regard to how the game works, the only changes are the amount of content and a couple instances of higher requirements.

Hmm, now that I think about it, the brother was meant to be the older one, right ? So, we know that Sana is at least 18 ( all characters in the class are 18 minimum ), and according to the wiki Sara is 33 ( I actually thought she was younger ). So Sara had Sana at ... 15 ( potentially even 14, as Sana's birthday is January 4th and Sara's is July 6th ). Oh dear, I suppose it happens. But if Sana is the younger one, then her brother would have been born when Sara was what, 13 ? And after one early teen childbirth, she went and got a second ? .... I kind of find it unlikely

Well then... I still don't really subscribe to the theory, but I feel it might have some legs to stand on now.
He was the older sibling of the two, yes. I also find those ages hard to believe, but it does make me curious to see what Sara's ages for each birth come to when you remove the disclaimer ages, meaning all characters being 18+ even if they appear otherwise, as a factor.

Not going to lie, I've had a hard time actually reading a lot of the posts on here, lately. I just haven't had the attention span for some reason. I know there's a lot of people making good points about things, and there's some trolls, and there are people having a hard time with the recent scenes in the game. I just wanted to give my opinion on a few of the topics that stood out to me.

"The Scene" - the controversial one. I'm in agreement with the people who don't believe Sensei is in control of his actions at this point. He's clearly been modified mentally, or something else is in partial control, or he's just gone more crazy than normal temporarily.

Tsuneyo - It is jarring, the change between how she normally is, and how she is at the end of "the scene". However, there are certainly explanations that make sense in the story for her behaviour. She's had a lot of things explained to her. She loves Molly more than anyone else in the game but her father. She could probably sense something from Sensei and the way he was acting to add a sense of 'something terrible happened here' to the scene for her.

Ami - Her character is ruled by terror of being left without family, and when every action, decision, and thing she says is influenced by that very base and difficult to escape emotion, it makes sense that she comes off as "one dimensional". There's not really room for her to be more nuanced because she's so broken.

One thing I'm surprised no one is talking about (at least that I saw, see attention span issues mentioned above):

Yumi - Is clearly touched when she thinks the present she got is from Sensei. Her facade is cracking. I wonder how long it will be before it shatters, and I look forward to seeing what we'll learn about her, and her relationship with previous-sensei.
I have to disagree with your assessment of 'the scene' in this case. While I am in no way disturbed to the degree some people apparently are, still good to keep going in that regard, I do believe this was different from the Yumi kiss scene, where he actually wasn't in control. Even partial control is not in control, though I do agree he might have had something influencing him to a limited extent, but still he didn't seem forced into it whereas the Yumi kiss was entirely against his will.

There's definitely much more that can explain the Tsuneyo thing than people give the update credit for.

You hit the nail on the head with Ami, that accident left her deeply scarred, she can't react much differently until those scars heal IF they can. The body can be healed pretty easily comparatively speaking, but the mind is a different matter.

Yumi's facade has actually been cracking for a while now. She hated him ganuinely at first, but she was more acting like a tsundere by the Christmas update, hence the note she gave him. I wouldn't be surprised if she goes from absolute last girl to get some romance time and/or lust events to being one of the next few considering the leaps she's making.


Holy shit, these are some wild theories. I can't dispute them in any way shape or form, nor would I be totally against them. Honestly, I think Sana is cute regardless.



The scene: We knew from the beginning sensei hasn't been in control all the way. The scene with Yumi in the beginning for example.

Not to mention the whole user x accessing terminal x thing during happy scenes and such. There's multiple users trying to fight for total control of sensei I believe. I think it's the 4 gods that have been mentioned time and time again.

Tsuneyo: She knows more than she lets on, and always has. The ramen shop was host to the yakuza. She's obviously gonna learn a shit ton just from being around them alone. I think she's feigned ignorance mostly as that basically lets her remain "innocuous" and "unimportant" during most conversations, people won't worry about her eavesdropping because most people would think she just doesn't understand what's been being talked about to begin with.

Ami: She's literally the most absolutely broken character in the game currently. She's lost everyone important to her, and she's lost sensei. When she heard he lost his memory, she basically had a huge breakdown and Maya even hinted at it, before she told sensei about the anniversary of her parents death. That's when she started throwing herself at sensei. It was the last thing she could do to hold onto him. It didn't even matter that we weren't her sensei. As long as she had someone to cling to.

Yumi: She's already cracked which is why she refuses to show herself to sensei 90% of the time because she still doesn't know if the memory loss/losing control thing is just our way of fucking with her and our way of getting her to drop her guard, or not. I have a feeling sensei(Not our sensei but a previous rendition) has molested her at one point in time.
We know he's had moments where he wasn't in control, usually pretty obvious like with the Yumi kiss, but we have yet to see signs that this loss of control is continuous.

Tsuneyo definitely knows more than any of us thought. She does seem like the type to want to stay out of the limelight, so taking actions that make her seem innocuous sounds about right, including not letting on how much she knows.

Ami is easily the most broken with Noriko as a close second. The poor girl went through something extremely traumatic, it would have been a miracle even in real life if she didn't end up this way.

Yep, Yumi cracked a while ago. When is hard to pinpoint, but she definitely did by the time of the Christmas event. I don't think he has molested her, I think she made that up out of spite due to the detentions as I don't see evidence of it being true.

With so much death and killing vibes - i `m suprised i can`t actually kill somebody in this game.(And oh boy, there are MANY i wish a could`ve.)
Because MC is an average *i don`t give a fuck, make choices for me, i`ll just stand there like a complete idiot.*
And the sex scenes are kind of sucks.(no pun intended).Story is okay, but either remove sex from the game or make it worth playing for, it IS and adult games site, not a doki-doki fanfic forum.
Amount of fillers is worse then in Naruto, ffs.Game hooked me up at the start, but close to second half of the part two(where i am now) - i am really considering to actually JUMP :)...ugh.

P.s and what the hell with the user friendly progression?Game is unplayable without the guide mode, are you serious?
I think you might have the purpose of the site confused. It MOSTLY does adult games, but its purpose is piracy in general. As for the sex, that is side content, it is intentionally done this way because the focus is entirely on the story. Fillers? There are none here.

Unplayable? I've been playing for a while with no guide at all. Seriously, while a guide does help, it is not necessary to use one as long as you follow some basic tips.

Think that's "sensei.mp3" in the code, if you want it that way.
Don't know the actual song though. Could probably do some kind of reverse audio from downloading that.


Considering the adult games site argument, this place is more of a pirate site (Let's not dive into that topic of morality again, thank you) and mainly helps smaller games reach larger audience (which LiL doesn't need too much anymore).

And the progression, well sure, it's sometimes hard to figure out the next step (especially if you're trying to reach one, that's locked behind another).
But if, let's say, there's a event where Tsuneyo and Molly have a fight and they end up not wanting to see each other.
You're complaining about not getting the Molly event after that, because it's locked behind Tsuneyo's after event and maybe in an unexpected location like the Maid Cafe.
You need to get Tsuneyo's first, because in that you'll learn that she wants to apologize and can tell Molly that in her eventm which would lead to them being happy again.
If you got Molly's event first, then you (technically) wouldn't be able to tell her about Tsuneyo and they wouldn't be friends again.
So yeah, it kinda sucks to try to figure out what to do, but you just need a little bit of luck and hope of getting the right event.
Worst case scenario, you can ask the wikia, ask us or check the code (probably).

But hey, opinions are opinions. Not everyone wants to eat chocolate cake when you could have muffins instead.
I see no reason to dive into that topic for the millionth time. I agree with you on the site, it's more of a piracy site that just so happens to mostly get adult games because those are the ones with the least protection, coming from developers who don't necessarily have the ability to fund or implement any kind of preventative measure like Denuvo. You won't find more recent EA, Bethesda, what have you games on this site for one reason, they are heavily guarded both by DRM in some cases and watchdogs like the ESA, who actually did catch me pirating Fallout 4 and sent a nasty letter to my ISP.

I once again agree on progression, things need to happen as they are for the story to remain coherent with the same outcomes that the current events come to.

I... just don't get it man, you've been so supportive so far to Molly, so many times she have been hurt by "real life", and always there was a person to help her, because in the end of the day she is just a teenage nerd.
I can understand the harshness at anybody currently - Maya is making Sensei to fail, so she is depreciated, Yumi is too stubborn and aggressive, it had to be done to break her confidence, Makoto is just making an excuse to have something, that was never there in the fist place, so she hurts every time she is reminded of that. Ayane hurts because Sensei is not capable to have a strong decision, or have courage to say no to another teenager, I get it.
So, why Molly suffers now, Selebus? She has been nothing but self-sufficient nerd, never asked for anything or tried to do some weird shit, but she was the target of the rape nonetheless, so either you wanted to go off at players because it would impress them how fucking reckless and powerfull and big dick energy you are, or it has SOME meaning to the Sensei's illness and that's why Maya hates him so much, it's the last stretch I'm giving it. I know that you don't care, but I do, and if you do this shit just to annoy or impress people - thats not what I'm looking for, so at least I'm gonna drop it, not that you would care, you have 11k support on your patreon man, you've alreay done better than you have imagined in the fist place, right? You deserve this power, and deserve to burn the whole place down, if you would care.
But, please, don't do that shit man, it's awful and that's exactly why there is so much money involved than just supporters.
I'm not asking you to be more soft with characters, you're the one, who knows how to move plot along, but this shit, makes me worry how much of a show off you are than a writer with a passion.
It's not that Sensei CAN'T say no, his entire plan revolves around being unwilling to say no. He literally wants to get in the pants of all of these girls and that means no exclusivity.

Molly has never been self sufficient, she just hadn't started to go downhill yet until the whole Rin thing happened, then she dropped hard and fast. You do know this is a Denpa game, right? This wasn't about getting back at players, it's actually pretty obvious when Selebus is doing that, the puzzle in "There is Nothing" is a good example of this. This is the situation deteriorating as all Denpa games do.

This post makes me think that the Denpa genre just isn't your kind of game, that's perfectly alright by the way, but you would be better suited finding something else. Things are only going to get more intense from here for a long while before we come to any, IF we come to any, better situation.
 

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It`s not about who to click after the event, it`s more about the events being tied to 4 different activities, while you need to guess a right day of the week and maybe\or raise an affection\lust with diffferent characters in most cases.Oh, and some events are missable.Great.It`s a flaw, not just an opinion.
P.s Luck and hope for reaching an event in game?Are you for real?
 
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99% of the games on this site - adult games\comics\videos\gifs.Instead of *Diving into this topic for the millionth time* - deal with the fact, that this is an ADULT games site, even it`s a piracy site.Theme of this site - adult games, bear with it.
As for the game-i can see that you love this game too pretty much and defending it in any way possible, so i won`t even start talking about the problems with you, it`s pointless.But please, for the love of god God, don`t pretend that there are no problems, because you actually love the game.There are.
 
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This post makes me think that the Denpa genre just isn't your kind of game, that's perfectly alright by the way, but you would be better suited finding something else. Things are only going to get more intense from here for a long while before we come to any, IF we come to any, better situation.
Yeah, maybe you right, the first glimpse of horror was awesome, it impressed me very much, but this stuff is getting out of hand, I expected things go downhill, but not at that direction...
 

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Yeah, maybe you right, the first glimpse of horror was awesome, it impressed me very much, but this stuff is getting out of hand, I expected things go downhill, but not at that direction...
I don't do a lot of VNs, but this game more than anything else reminds me of Zero Escape. Not in the gameplay loop itself, but in the structure.

In that game, before you can see the true ending, you are put through an absolute wringer of bad endings, and the bad endings typically involve multiple characters dying horrifically. And the games are particularly sadistic, because it's not "these are punishments for making bad choices, and if you only make the right choice you get the good ending." No, in order to get to the good ending, you have to learn clues contained in the bad endings. The good ending is literally blockaded by the bad ones.

And that's how this game makes me feel. Bluejay and the scene with Molly are the bad outcomes, the first of several more yet to come, and we have to endure them to get to the good ending. And if that game is any indication, the good ending....is only good in the sense that it's "better" than what came before. There are no happy outcomes. There are no characters that escape entirely unscathed.
 
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This game is too WHITE for my liking so i made a dark mod for myself which is more pleasing to my eyes. It turned out decent so thought of sharing it here.

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This is totally a great mod, highly appreciate you sharing this for us. Though I do have a minor thing if it's possible you can tweak. I seen some videos and people talk about UI design and stuff like that relating to well, your eyes and looking at computer screens for a long time. Part of what they talk about is not using pure black with white text, it actually can cause some form of eye strain and damage. It's why a lot of websites, games, discord, even windows uses a dark grey instead of pure black.

More something to consider if you don't mind. Again really appreciate the share and I am not trying to be rude. Please don't take it that way.
 
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This new update is exactly the type of thing i love, the creator is kind of dickish at times but hey, special people make special games, can't wait for more.

I don't have to grind for Molly points anymore (which is certainly a plus), now if that would just happen with the other girls...
 

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99% of the games on this site - adult games\comics\videos\gifs.Instead of *Diving into this topic for the millionth time* - deal with the fact, that this is an ADULT games site, even it`s a piracy site.Theme of this site - adult games, bear with it.
If you want to only define "adult" as porn, that's on you. LiL is an adult game in many senses of the word, and would remain so even if there was nothing sexual about it.
 

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Hey, I'd appreciate it if someone could chime in on a question I have. It's been a while since I played this game (real life stuff, bleh), and I was going to restart it since I lost my old save, but I'm a bit of a completionist so I like missing as few events as possible.

With that said, I know that in order to not miss out on a Rin scene (or to not go down the bad homie route), you need to complete the Beach event before doing Chika's Schadenfreude event, so my question is basically, are there any other things like this I should know about? Events I need to do before others.

P.S ~ Another small question 'cause I never know what answer to pick. Should I romance Ami? The lover of harems in me says yes, but I'm worried about the crazy repercussions that could come from it. What did you guys do?

Thanks in advance!
 

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With that said, I know that in order to not miss out on a Rin scene (or to not go down the bad homie route), you need to complete the Beach event before doing Chika's Schadenfreude event, so my question is basically, are there any other things like this I should know about? Events I need to do before others.

P.S ~ Another small question 'cause I never know what answer to pick. Should I romance Ami? The lover of harems in me says yes, but I'm worried about the crazy repercussions that could come from it. What did you guys do?
There are no other events in the form of "make sure you do X before Y or it closes off Z".

Not fingering Ami locks you out of like six Ami events, two Happy events, and one Maya event, many of them seriously plot-relevant, so if you're just going to have one file I would recommend going for it so you don't miss out on important things. It's also probably going to lead to some serious shit going down, but, uh, it's not like you're immune from shit going down if you're not on Ami's path.
 

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There are no other events in the form of "make sure you do X before Y or it closes off Z".

Not fingering Ami locks you out of like six Ami events, two Happy events, and one Maya event, many of them seriously plot-relevant, so if you're just going to have one file I would recommend going for it so you don't miss out on important things. It's also probably going to lead to some serious shit going down, but, uh, it's not like you're immune from shit going down if you're not on Ami's path.
Ah, that's good to hear! Thanks for clarifying it.

And shoot, all you had to say was that it locks me out from Maya, my mind is made up. The more Maya the better haha. And good point, this game is pretty messed up at times no matter what you choose.
 
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I said that to the dude who thinks that site is just about piracy, and all adult stuff just kinda happened, but it`s not like that.
So it is not about how me or anyone else defines *adult*.
 

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This is totally a great mod, highly appreciate you sharing this for us. Though I do have a minor thing if it's possible you can tweak. I seen some videos and people talk about UI design and stuff like that relating to well, your eyes and looking at computer screens for a long time. Part of what they talk about is not using pure black with white text, it actually can cause some form of eye strain and damage. It's why a lot of websites, games, discord, even windows uses a dark grey instead of pure black.

More something to consider if you don't mind. Again really appreciate the share and I am not trying to be rude. Please don't take it that way.
Hey MBdragon, Thanks for your input. I wasn't aware that Black and white combination can actually hurt your eyes so I'll change it to Grey but I don't know how long I'll take to do it.
 

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Hey MBdragon, Thanks for your input. I wasn't aware that Black and white combination can actually hurt your eyes so I'll change it to Grey but I don't know how long I'll take to do it.
That's fine dude,I know it's a side thing, take your time. Thanks for responding to the feedback :)
 
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It`s not about who to click after the event, it`s more about the events being tied to 4 different activities, while you need to guess a right day of the week and maybe\or raise an affection\lust with diffferent characters in most cases.Oh, and some events are missable.Great.It`s a flaw, not just an opinion.
P.s Luck and hope for reaching an event in game?Are you for real?
That it is a flaw actually is an opinion, it works just fine if you keep to a set of tips that have been repeated multiple times in this thread, usually by me. There is no luck or hope, all you have to do is raise each girl as equally as possible and get that lust stat up quick once it unlocks.

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99% of the games on this site - adult games\comics\videos\gifs.Instead of *Diving into this topic for the millionth time* - deal with the fact, that this is an ADULT games site, even it`s a piracy site.Theme of this site - adult games, bear with it.
As for the game-i can see that you love this game too pretty much and defending it in any way possible, so i won`t even start talking about the problems with you, it`s pointless.But please, for the love of god God, don`t pretend that there are no problems, because you actually love the game.There are.
It is an adult community, that does not mean it exclusively provides adult rated games, that just means it only allows adults due to the openness of what they allow to be uploaded. They allow adult games, both porn and non-porn, so therefore they MUST make this community adult exclusive or they will get in trouble, which could bring unwanted attention to the piracy part. It doesn't matter that 99% of the content is porn adult content, that leaves at least 1% that is either non-porn adult or non-adult in general, ruling out exclusive purpose as a porn adult games site. The theme of the site is piracy, no more, no less.

I don't defend the game unless someone brings up things like the 'adult site, so more sex should be added' argument or anything that goes against the structure of the game to the point where, if Selebus were to make the game follow that logic, it would no longer be what it is today, but instead a shadow of its former self. I ONLY call out problems that are actually problems, anything else is just a waste of Selebus's time when what is there now is what he wants.

I know there are problems, but none of them include what people love to complain about. The complaints are more of a personal issue than an actual problem, which is not Selebus's problem to deal with. In fact, I think it was last week, I told Selebus about an issue in one of the events on the technical side of things where it seemed like a flag wasn't setting correctly. That's actually a problem because it caused dialogue that was not supposed to happen outside a certain situation to come up outside that situation.

I don't do a lot of VNs, but this game more than anything else reminds me of Zero Escape. Not in the gameplay loop itself, but in the structure.

In that game, before you can see the true ending, you are put through an absolute wringer of bad endings, and the bad endings typically involve multiple characters dying horrifically. And the games are particularly sadistic, because it's not "these are punishments for making bad choices, and if you only make the right choice you get the good ending." No, in order to get to the good ending, you have to learn clues contained in the bad endings. The good ending is literally blockaded by the bad ones.

And that's how this game makes me feel. Bluejay and the scene with Molly are the bad outcomes, the first of several more yet to come, and we have to endure them to get to the good ending. And if that game is any indication, the good ending....is only good in the sense that it's "better" than what came before. There are no happy outcomes. There are no characters that escape entirely unscathed.
You know, you're right about that, it does remind me of "Zero Escape" as well. This structure, however, is typical for a Denpa game. Developers of Denpa games don't want to just let their players go through the game straight to the true ending that may or may not be positive or at least more positive, they want the player to go through the really dark parts of the game that make it what it is.

Containing clues in the bad endings is actually a genius move, I hope Selebus has that idea because that would be brilliant, though I know there are some who would dislike the idea, as usual. I do have to disagree on "Bluejay" and the Molly scene, however, since they aren't the same. They are bad events, sure, but not quite the same as what other games do and I'm pretty sure they contain nothing important to progression, only containing plot importance.

This new update is exactly the type of thing i love, the creator is kind of dickish at times but hey, special people make special games, can't wait for more.

I don't have to grind for Molly points anymore (which is certainly a plus), now if that would just happen with the other girls...
That's usually when someone is being that way to him, he's a nice guy when you're nice to him.

If you want to only define "adult" as porn, that's on you. LiL is an adult game in many senses of the word, and would remain so even if there was nothing sexual about it.
Indeed, just like "Game of Thrones" is an adult show in many senses of the word even though it isn't blatant porn.


Hey, I'd appreciate it if someone could chime in on a question I have. It's been a while since I played this game (real life stuff, bleh), and I was going to restart it since I lost my old save, but I'm a bit of a completionist so I like missing as few events as possible.

With that said, I know that in order to not miss out on a Rin scene (or to not go down the bad homie route), you need to complete the Beach event before doing Chika's Schadenfreude event, so my question is basically, are there any other things like this I should know about? Events I need to do before others.

P.S ~ Another small question 'cause I never know what answer to pick. Should I romance Ami? The lover of harems in me says yes, but I'm worried about the crazy repercussions that could come from it. What did you guys do?

Thanks in advance!
DON'T be a good uncle to Ami, if given the opportunity, romance her or you WILL miss some events tied to that path. I paid no attention to the possible repercussions of romancing her and just went all in and have not missed a single event yet on this run. I did miss a couple in previous runs due to making the right wrong choice, most notably with Karin, I told her the truth and was punished for it with disqualifying myself from her route at least for now if not permanently.

Some of the lust events are missable in that you must do them before certain main events or they will be locked due to no longer making sense after the locking point in the main story. For this reason, make sure to keep your stats at the minimum needed for each event so you don't get roped into a marathon that makes you miss things you wouldn't if you had control. In fact, it's probably best to grind that lust as soon as possible up to where it is needed and that stat won't put you into an event marathon, so feel free to go way above the minimum needed there. It's only affection you need to worry about grinding too far on.

There are no other events in the form of "make sure you do X before Y or it closes off Z".

Not fingering Ami locks you out of like six Ami events, two Happy events, and one Maya event, many of them seriously plot-relevant, so if you're just going to have one file I would recommend going for it so you don't miss out on important things. It's also probably going to lead to some serious shit going down, but, uh, it's not like you're immune from shit going down if you're not on Ami's path.
Nope, nobody is immune, shit is going down whether we like it or not and those of us who stick around to see the game to completion WILL be a part of the shit going down.

I said that to the dude who thinks that site is just about piracy, and all adult stuff just kinda happened, but it`s not like that.
So it is not about how me or anyone else defines *adult*.
I never said it was ONLY about piracy, that's just the primary focus. It delivers games of any type that get approved, adult or not, porn game or not. Yes, it actually is about how users define 'adult' because that argument has been around for a long time, usually in regards to the "No Sexual Content" tag and why a game should be taken down if it has that. Those people seem to only define adult as porn, but that's not true at all, porn is adult, but adult is not automatically porn. This is a game that fits the adult category, but it does not fit the porn category. This is because, while there are many aspects that only adults are mature enough to handle, let's be honest, not even all adults can handle games like this, the focus is entirely on the story with sex on the side as a minor thing that is entirely driven by when the girls are ready within the plot or when Sensei decides to be a bit more forceful.

As a prime example, "Game of Thrones" is an adult series, but it is not porn. This is because many of the things on the show are too mature for anyone that isn't adult even without a sex focus. Some of those things aren't even sex related, just not the kind of thing younger viewers would understand.
 
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You know, you're right about that, it does remind me of "Zero Escape" as well. This structure, however, is typical for a Denpa game. Developers of Denpa games don't want to just let their players go through the game straight to the true ending that may or may not be positive or at least more positive, they want the player to go through the really dark parts of the game that make it what it is.

Containing clues in the bad endings is actually a genius move, I hope Selebus has that idea because that would be brilliant, though I know there are some who would dislike the idea, as usual. I do have to disagree on "Bluejay" and the Molly scene, however, since they aren't the same. They are bad events, sure, but not quite the same as what other games do and I'm pretty sure they contain nothing important to progression, only containing plot importance.
Bluejay was the last event prior to a reset, and it was undone by the reset with only Sensei remembering that it happened.

That's exactly how a bad ending works in Zero Escape. The event is undone, but somehow MC remembers details from it happening, so the analogy as far as Bluejay goes is pretty spot on.

But you're right about the Molly event, since it's still very early in this reset cycle, way too early to be considered an "ending"

And this game bars progression through very different methods than the Zero Escape games, but clues to "solving" the puzzle of what's happening in the story may very well be present in those scenes, even if we don't yet know what we're looking for yet. Personally, I think Bluejay was the first clue as to how the rooftop works during resets (ie why Makoto, and later Ayane, wound up there when normally it's just Sensei and Maya), but you and I have gone on at length about how we do not agree on the pregnancy point, so it's not worth beating that horse again. We'll learn more next reset, I'm sure.

DON'T be a good uncle to Ami, if given the opportunity, romance her or you WILL miss some events tied to that path. I paid no attention to the possible repercussions of romancing her and just went all in and have not missed a single event yet on this run. I did miss a couple in previous runs due to making the right wrong choice, most notably with Karin, I told her the truth and was punished for it with disqualifying myself from her route at least for now if not permanently.
Counterpoint: While being a bad uncle unlocks more content today without introducing any apparent negative outcomes, there is no guarantee that future content may not look at that choice and block content, or worse, force content you'd rather avoid (oh no, Ami just killed your favorite girl and served her for dinner!)
 
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Bluejay was the last event prior to a reset, and it was undone by the reset with only Sensei remembering that it happened.

That's exactly how a bad ending works in Zero Escape. The event is undone, but somehow MC remembers details from it happening, so the analogy as far as Bluejay goes is pretty spot on.

But you're right about the Molly event, since it's still very early in this reset cycle, way too early to be considered an "ending"

And this game bars progression through very different methods than the Zero Escape games, but clues to "solving" the puzzle of what's happening in the story may very well be present in those scenes, even if we don't yet know what we're looking for yet. Personally, I think Bluejay was the first clue as to how the rooftop works during resets (ie why Makoto, and later Ayane, wound up there when normally it's just Sensei and Maya), but you and I have gone on at length about how we do not agree on the pregnancy point, so it's not worth beating that horse again. We'll learn more next reset, I'm sure.



Counterpoint: While being a bad uncle unlocks more content today without introducing any apparent negative outcomes, there is no guarantee that future content may not look at that choice and block content, or worse, force content you'd rather avoid (oh no, Ami just killed your favorite girl and served her for dinner!)
I think you may have had an issue with quoting, it says it was from a different user, but those are definitely my comments. It happens, especially around those stupid automated backups that always happen at the worst times.

I wouldn't exactly call it an ending unless it shows signs of being one, such as something that happens to the MC where he wouldn't be able to continue on the current path. That, of course, does not mean it jumps the player back to the menu to start over from scratch, resetting to a previous point is a valid way to go, it just really needs to stand out from other scenes where there actually is a path forward after.

I think you're right about "Bluejay" being the first clue for the roof, it definitely seems like it was trying to hint at something, not like the puzzle answers, but hinting at plot details. I DO disagree on the whole pregnancy thing, but I agree that there is something about the roof the game is trying to tell us. I am also sure we'll learn something in the next reset, let's just hope the lesson we learn isn't whether or not characters who die before a reset occurs carry over alive and well in the next cycle. I hope they do come out alive even if the reset doesn't stop them from dying outright because of timing, but this is a Denpa game, so I am probably wrong and characters who actually die probably do stay dead. An extension of that lesson would be how living characters react to the now dead one whether they come back with the reset or not. Will they even know it happened or will they acknowledge that the character is dead? Will the character cease to exist entirely or will the living ones forget they ever even existed? We'll find out, I'm sure, and I'm also sure it won't be a pleasant answer for either of those questions.

That is true about Ami, we do not know what the future holds. I'm not so sure Ami would go so far as outright serving one of the girls for dinner, but I have been wrong before and she is definitely a dangerous character to go behind the back of. In fact, I'm willing to bet she is going to be the cause of at least the first ever character death in the game if not becoming a rampant serial killer hell bent on eliminating anything she sees as getting between her and Sensei. Ayane and Noriko creep me out with their points of yandere tendencies, but Ami scares me completely. This coming from someone whose favorite dere is the yandere, dangerous, but devoted so deeply that they would do literally anything to keep the one they love by their side.
 
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I think you may have had an issue with quoting, it says it was from a different user, but those are definitely my comments. It happens, especially around those stupid automated backups that always happen at the worst times.
To be fair, it was late/early and I was half asleep. I'm somewhat amazed my comment was coherent. I'd probably failed to erase a previous aborted comment, so the quote attribution from whatever I had started to respond to got artifacted in and I was too loopy to notice it.

I wouldn't exactly call it an ending unless it shows signs of being one, such as something that happens to the MC where he wouldn't be able to continue on the current path. That, of course, does not mean it jumps the player back to the menu to start over from scratch, resetting to a previous point is a valid way to go, it just really needs to stand out from other scenes where there actually is a path forward after.
During the reset, every girl vanishes in some way and is reset to an earlier state. Makoto goes to school as normal, oblivious to the fact that she'd been acting out of character for several days and had jumped off a roof. Ayane wakes up feeling something important has been lost, but with no memory of the rooftop. Those are endings from their perspective. Not so much from the perspective of Maya or Sensei, but the implication that sometimes people don't come back after a reset definitely reinforces the idea that these are endings, of a sort (at least, metaphorically speaking)

Will they even know it happened or will they acknowledge that the character is dead? Will the character cease to exist entirely or will the living ones forget they ever even existed? We'll find out, I'm sure, and I'm also sure it won't be a pleasant answer for either of those questions.
I mean, when the game begins half the desks in the classroom are empty, and the other class is overflowing.

Was Sensei just given a small class for some reason, or were those populated desks of students who vanished forever in past resets? This is the one question Sensei hasn't asked Maya that I'd really love to have the answer to.

That is true about Ami, we do not know what the future holds. I'm not so sure Ami would go so far as outright serving one of the girls for dinner, but I have been wrong before and she is definitely a dangerous character to go behind the back of. In fact, I'm willing to bet she is going to be the cause of at least the first ever character death in the game if not becoming a rampant serial killer hell bent on eliminating anything she sees as getting between her and Sensei. Ayane and Noriko creep me out with their points of yandere tendencies, but Ami scares me completely. This coming from someone whose favorite dere is the yandere, dangerous, but devoted so deeply that they would do literally anything to keep the one they love by their side.
Ayane plays at being yandere, but she isn't actually. She hasn't really shown the capacity to harm others, and is downright passive in situations where yandere would typically be much more aggressive (like when Sensei picks one of the other girls in the Halloween contest).

Noriko carries a knife and appears somewhat unhinged, but the scene in the Halloween update makes it pretty clear she's MUCH more likely to direct her harm inward than outward. Despite her outward appearances, she's more like Rin than Ami.

But if Ami does go the true yandere route, yeah, I can totally see her inviting one of the girls over for dinner, so to speak.
 
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