Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[fdsasdf_p]

No, because she's not taking Ami to Kyoto. Also Akira's reaction would make no sense if it's the second child she's having of that asshole. The hidden meaning of the scene (as I understand it) is that Sekai is waiting for Akira to ask her if it's his child in the end, but instead he asks if she's never going to leave him. This is a callback to something he says earlier in the update out of nowhere "I'd be a terrible father".

Plain and simple, Selebus really screwed up. The issue was including Noriko, she should never have been mentioned.

I see what you're saying; yes it'd be odd for Sekai to abandon Ami and run with Akira, and yes it'd be odd to react this violently toward his brother only when Sekai was pregnant again (though another excuse would be something like Nozomu only started committing DV some time after marriage, or even after Ami's birth if I intentionally want to be alarmist)

Nevertheless, I feel like not mentioning Noriko still wouldn't be enough help. I assumed that Kyoto flashback was chronologically after Spotless Mind flashback due to the advancement in Akira x Niki relationship. If such thing is true, then Noriko should already be born and somewhat old enough to try to sit in Akira's lap. And because of that Ami should also already be born. Due to me deeming the aforementioned as the unshakable truth, I arrive to the excuse that "this pregnancy in Kyoto should not have been Ami". Selly would have to not mention Noriko in both events in order to sufficiently blur the timeline issues.

Besides, "waiting for Akira to ask her if it's his child" and "I'd be a terrible father" can still work even if the pregnancy in question isn't baby Ami. But I agree with you; something just doesn't feel quite right.....originally I just defaulted this pregnancy to Ami and didn't even challenge the idea until you guys brought it up lol.

 

[SlidingSubject]

I'm gonna flip if it turns out the Kyoto event is fake. But leaving that aside.
It was mentioned before, but what if it was a second pregnancy, but both Sekai and Akira resented Ami's existence which tied them to Nozomu? And him not doing anything with wizard Ami specifically because of that resentment against his brother? Though even as I type it, it doesn't track because I think Akira would still see Sekai on her, unless the Maya thing started at almost the same time or she convinced him to take care of Ami.

 

[Moonflare]

I wonder if anyone in the discord will bring this up. If they do will Sel address it or just ban them? Maybe we're all missing something. What ever happened to Deskel BTW? I feel like he would have the best chance of explaining this.

The explanation is that Selebus added a line about Noriko that shouldn't have been there. The scene is about Niki and Akira getting interrupted by her mom. There should be no Noriko mention, but he chose to add it anyway and that was a mistake, because Noriko was a toddler.

Spoiler: Kyoto

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I don't care if Noriko is 2, 3 or 4. It just makes absolutely no sense for a 4 year old to try to constantly sneak in on her sister and her boyfriend. And she's obviously not 4 if Ami hasn't been born. More likely she's at most 2, and how does a 2 year old sneak in anywhere? She would have been with her mom.

My take is that Selebus went from "Noriko always tried to hang around Akira when he visited their home", and yes, that tracks. But do you want to get into even more of a mistake? During the first flashback we get, which is supposed to be about Niki and Akira's first kiss, Noriko is also mentioned as trying to hang around him.

Spoiler: Spotless mind

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Spoiler: Me without you

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In spotless mind, Niki and Akira are even younger, haven't kissed yet, and yet Noriko is "some kid", not a toddler, not an infant, a kid. That would make her 4-5 years older than Ami at least. in fact, if she's already a kid when both of them were kids, when they get to Kyoto, she'd be even older.

So I can see two ways to explain this: Selebus is a big dumb dumb regarding Noriko's age. Or they don't actually exist. Now, calm down, it has been theorized that they really don't exist:

Spoiler: Ad meliora

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At the same way, the fact that Noriko wasn't one of the original characters to LiL (to my knowledge), could have messed things up slightly that Selebus just got his timeline wrong. I don't know. And since I have nowhere to put this, have this too:

Spoiler: More than her

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Do these seem like real people to you? (last one might just be nothing tbh). Anyway, other than the last one, these are the facts as we have them now.

 

[dathk321]

Yumi is in the know, but she's unaccounted for at the end of Restart.
Every previous Halloween has a flashback except the 4th Halloween.
I simply put 2 and 2 together and came up with a number. Maybe it's 4. Maybe it's 22. We'll find out in 30 days.

Really i thought next month will not have update?

 

[Moonflare]

Really i thought next month will not have update?

The break is following Nov 1's update, aka 0.45. Some previews are already out.

 

[Moonflare]

update to the sexual checklist/collector's progress.

Spoiler: 0.44 Sexual Checklist

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We're slowly getting there! There were some relevant changes this time.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Maybe it was a barely-able to walk Noriko trying to get a peek

Really i thought next month will not have update?

The update we're not getting is the one that would be released on 12/1, the 11/1 update is still on.

And for the record -- we were never getting a 12/1 update. That was a reminder, not an announcement. He always takes time off for the holidays.

 

[AkiraRegalia]

the boxes contain memories of every timeline, even if the world gets hard reset, how are you going to delete an object that gets slipped while the reset is happening?
both prime maya and ami have the ability to slip

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

With all that came out this update I estimate the timeline to be something like:
1)Akira is born and around 0~3 years draws the affection of his half-sister Sekai. (she is playing peekaboo with him)
2)He is around 12 and hurts his leg, Sekai offers to take care of him bringing the two together.
3)Akira and Niki get together too, probably when he is 13~14, when he is 15 Sekai gets pregnant and tries to take him to Kyoto.
4)Akira is 16, Ami is born in august, Noriko should already been born in july.
5)Two years later Niki is 16, brags about having an older boyfriend, Akira should be 18 and in colege.
6)Teacher course is around 4 years, Ami and Noriko should be 6 when Akira finishes colege.
7)Around a year after Akira finishes colege, he should be 23 and Ami is 7,Sekai dies in a car crash, Akira breaks up with Niki and boards the depresso expresso stuck in bed station, only enough of will left to get Ami from the orphanage.
8)Notices he should earn a living if he wants to feed himself and Ami, starts tutoring, finds Maya, and Noriko finds he is tutoring and convinces her parents to sign her.
9)Around 3 years later Maya works her magic to make him disappear from Noriko's life. Ami and Noriko should be around 10 now.
10)Sometime during the last 5 years he starts teaching in Kumon-mi High, and we reach the time of the start of the game where Ami is 15.

 

[Bingoogus]

2)He is around 12 and hurts his leg, Sekai offers to take care of him bringing the two together.

Where'd you get the 12 from? I took those early Akira scenes to him being more like 5-7 as it's very much an elementary school classroom...

 

[Angiboat]

Spoiler: 0.45 Preview

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All these moon shots are giving me one punch man ptsd

 

[Ksakep]

Kyoto takes place roughly a year before Ami was born, which would make Akira around 12, and Niki around 10.

Akira is 31, Niki is 29, Ami is like... 15? so Akira was 16 years old when Ami was born and 15 years old when Sekai got pregnant. I suppose it's okay here.

For Noriko: in Rain King we saw Sekai with young Ami and Ami remembers her mother, so Sekai didn't die when Ami was a kid. So Noriko was a kid too and Akira could easily be with Niki at this point. Tragedy will struck later.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Spoiler: Yasu

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[k1n5l4y3r]

Where'd you get the 12 from? I took those early Akira scenes to him being more like 5-7 as it's very much an elementary school classroom...

I'm going from his size that should be around Chinami's age since I don't really have a good grasp on there yet, and that happy event that shows an elementary classroom he looks way too old to be on elementary, so I'm thinking he is TA, but it's all an estimate so feel free to edit my timeline with any insights you have.
If you can, post evidence, it's been a while I last saw the event so I may be misremembering, thanks for your input.

 

[OIUEFIU]

Spoiler: pics

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Might just be reused asset, but thought you might wanna know.

 

[DeanNoriko]

Where'd you get the 12 from? I took those early Akira scenes to him being more like 5-7 as it's very much an elementary school classroom...

I checked one of the happy events (Good Boy) where I know it was mentioned that he cut his hand on a broken window and fell down and hurt his ankle, but it does not specify the age. Though Sekai talks about him being too embarrassed to accept a piggy back ride from her and that Niki is his girlfriend and that he probably jerks off to her.
I don't think 5-7 would fit in all that context, I suspect it would be closer to 12.

I randomly came across two things though that piqued my interest during that event.

Spoiler: A confirmation that Kaori was in fact in the white car?

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Spoiler: Another hint to this being, to some extent, a simulation/game/program?

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Edit:
Two more quotes I found fitting in this new context from this update, they are from Rain King:

Spoiler: This is pretty much what Pareidolia tried to tell Akira

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Spoiler: This is right at the end of the event, the last word being conveniently cut out

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[Detective Dc345]

And this is what we call: a major screw up.

Kyoto takes place roughly a year before Ami was born, which would make Akira around 12, and Niki around 10. Nevermind that a 12 and a 10 year old are having 69s before even becoming boyfriend/girlfriend. This also highlights how Sekai kept on dealing with Nozomu after her trying to run away for another 8 years at least, which led to Akira becoming Niki's boyfriend - and all that followed. The way Kyoto made it seem, less time had passed between her promise and her death, but in actual fact it was a long-ass time.

On to Noriko, yes, this would be the most glaring screw-up. Even if Noriko is older than Ami, for her to be sneaking around trying to see them, she would have to be at least 3-4, at the very least. She most certainly isn't. Way to go, Selebus... I'm actually disappointed.

I still don't get it, where's my dunce cap. Are you saying that Yumi got sent to yet another Halloween and we're just not seeing it yet?

Niki's teen model is used in Kyoto so she would have to be in high-school.

 

[Moonflare]

Niki's teen model is used in Kyoto so she would have to be in high-school.

The girls are in the first year of highschool (I assume) and the youngest of them is 15. If Niki was 15, then 15/16 years later she'd be 30/31, but she's 28.

 

[Riolol]

I checked one of the happy events (Good Boy) where I know it was mentioned that he cut his hand on a broken window and fell down and hurt his ankle, but it does not specify the age. Though Sekai talks about him being too embarrassed to accept a piggy back ride from her and that Niki is his girlfriend and that he probably jerks off to her.
I don't think 5-7 would fit in all that context, I suspect it would be closer to 12.

I randomly came across two things though that piqued my interest during that event.

Spoiler: A confirmation that Kaori was in fact in the white car?

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Spoiler: Another hint to this being, to some extent, a simulation/game/program?

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Edit:
Two more quotes I found fitting in this new context from this update, they are from Rain King:

Spoiler: This is pretty much what Pareidolia tried to tell Akira

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Spoiler: This is right at the end of the event, the last word being conveniently cut out

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What if Kaori and her family were on foot? Might fix the car problem.

 

[Moonflare]

I just want to point out that regardless of what Nao-chan is, if we were to compare:

Spoiler: gods

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Nao-chan wins.

Spoiler: Kittens

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This has been my ted talk.

Edit: might be willing to reconsider if another god offers Ron or Yamo sex. But so far it's Nao-chan hands down.