Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

This reminded me of I finally understood, you were just as broken as me from sleepsong.mp3, was that Maya too?.

yes. I'll add some of the quotes about Maya, mind you, only the first two are "confirmed" to be about her. The rest could be, but it's unclear.

Spoiler: potential Maya quotes

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Speaking of which, I've always wondered whether what Noriko stated about "Maya being molested" in Taco Tuesday truly is pointing at Sensei's relation with wizard Maya. Objectively speaking, there is almost no doubt in that according to the entire context of that event; you know, the whole tutor room flashback, the lil conversation about handjobs, some kind of prying at Sensei x Wizard Maya from Noriko, etc.

It's just......this means Noriko is righteous enough to be willing to, years later, describe behaviors of a person she likes for as long as she could remember as "molesting", but is also love-drunk enough to keep loving the said molester even today. This is more or less OK considering how Noriko's personalities are established; I guess this is a gasp at how Noriko defies "love is blind".

What I am trying here instead is presenting a minor possibility that pins the statement "Maya being molested" even further back in time, to before Maya even met Sensei. In this update we got a confirmation about Maya's favorite place being a random vending machine somewhere near the halfway point between the home she had and the home she wanted. This resonates quite well with the little unknown story told in S.E.K.A.I., which is seemingly about "the fateful rendezvous of a runaway girl and a guy in front of vending machines".

I am not sure whether this vending machine is the exact same one which Maya Prime bought canned coffees for Sensei in early chapters, but that's besides the point. The point is IF this story REALLY is about Maya, then the proof of her being molested even further back in the past will be established by "She'd been previously exposed to the evils of man in the form of a distant relative", which could be what Noriko is referring to. Even if this isn't what Noriko is talking about due to the fact that Noriko might not have a way to know all this, but what she said might ring a different bell in Maya's head.
(in simpler sentences: Noriko still thinks Sensei molested wizard Maya, but Maya fires back, implying "he was not; you don't fucking know the first thing about being molested)

Regardless, this remains a much minor possibility because 1) the little S.E.K.A.I. story has to be about Maya and not someone else, and 2) we have to ignore a good amount of subtexts in Taco Tuesday.

Spoiler: Soon

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Spoiler: S.E.K.A.I.

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Spoiler: about Noriko

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I wonder if Maya's family is even real, and that would create implications in both directions. First because it would mean Akira was the first one to molest her, and second because it would be hard to call it molestation if she was an actual god conjured up to serve that function.

On the route of Maya being human, I think that was the point of her words though, I agree. Noriko doesn't know anything because she's just calling what she had with Akira molestation, when the actual "worse" molestation happened to her before and she had to run away from home because of it. For Noriko to call someone that took her in and (potentially) resisted laying hands on her the same as the actual fucked up person that made her run away would be deeply insulting, and I can see why Maya would get mad.

Noriko's still right obviously, but I can see Maya's point.

Edit: added Maya quotes.

 

[SlidingSubject]

The rest could be, but it's unclear.

After the gods thing was made more explicit, I assumed that was just pareidolia. Mostly because of the bit that comes after number three, King of all kings, child of man, buried alive in the palm of my hands, which is also seen in Paper City.

I wonder if Maya's family is even real, and that would create implications in both directions.

Spoiler: Why not both?

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[Lux Perpetua]

I personally really hope that all these theories about how some girls might turn out to be ephemeral higher beings or not exist at all don't become true. It kind of understates the tragedy of their story.

 

[fasoaga]

Sorry but this damn site doesn't let me upload images. (Probably because of the vpn i need using to access this site in the first place.)

In the chika event "Side Event" chika and sensei watch a tv show about 5 girls in a house that they are NOT AWARE THEY ARE BEING FILMED. And when sensei realises there is something in the ATTIC, chika's phone rings and had to go check chinami.

So this is upside down house and i didn't realise it was this early introduced in the game. But the question i wanna ask do we know who are these 5 girls.
Miu miyamara is one.
Kyoko, nodoka's mom is two.
Saki? Does she live in the upside down house?
Shiori? Sekai? they are children of the above characters after all.

And why attics in this game is so important that gods are ready to kill chinami to keep it's secrets?

 

[Detective Dc345]

Update is nearly half way complete and we only have around 10 previews with 9 of them being labeled after the latest update. Either Sel is behind on work or he's hiding something from us.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Update is nearly half way complete and we only have around 10 previews with 9 of them being labeled after the latest update. Either Sel is behind on work or he's hiding something from us.

Man forget the update! To think that the ‘Dc’ in your username stood for ‘DemonCock’ this whole time…

I’m shooketh.

 

[crustlord12]

Update is nearly half way complete and we only have around 10 previews with 9 of them being labeled after the latest update. Either Sel is behind on work or he's hiding something from us.

Put it back. Put it back!

 

[GSwole]

Update is nearly half way complete and we only have around 10 previews with 9 of them being labeled after the latest update. Either Sel is behind on work or he's hiding something from us.

I had to take a small break and get some ZZZ in. Did you see Bernice? She's the pyro from TF2 and I couldn't pass on that.

 

[GSwole]

I think there's two angles to this: general cognitive dissonance, and a sense of power.

There are few things online which engender cognitive dissonance on the level of piracy, which explains all sorts of cringeworthy behavior online dating all the way back to the LOL, LIMEWIRE animation from like 2007. The fact is that piracy is an anti-social act which harms creators, but the convenience of the act (the lack of legal consequences) combined with the personal benefit of saving money means almost everyone does it anyway. And what happens when people who consider themselves good or reasonably moral people are faced with the fact they are regularly committing an immoral, harmful act? Their brain twists over itself to resolve the dissonance. "Ah, actually there is no real harm, you see I never would have bought the thing anyway." "Ah, actually, I would have bought it (I'm a good person), but I just can't afford to right now." "Yeah I'm kind of an asshole, I pirate, but in a lovable edgy way, I'm the cool uncle." Etc. And in a vacuum, the brain's natural self defense mechanism will protect someone from self-reflection or the need to acknowledge personal guilt. But GSwole doesn't allow that to happen and repeatedly confronts people with reality, thereby throwing the false harmony into disarray and forcing one to confront the cognitive dissonance again, which is unpleasant. Nobody likes that.

Secondly is the sense of power. There's almost nothing worse (metaphorically) you can do on the internet than care about something, because caring is weakness. The seminal visual novel Cross Channel (one of my top 5 "everyone should play" visual novels) has a line where someone observes that love is a battle wherein whoever falls in love first loses, because the other person will have all the power over them. Similarly, online, expressing that you care about something opens up an avenue for strangers to have power over you, and this power they WILL notice having. The meaning here is obvious. GSwole doesn't want people to pirate their game. Person B pirates the game. Person B has the power in this dynamic. They feel a sense of dominance and superiority surge through them like pure energy, as ridiculous as that may sound. On a subconscious level (and sometimes conscious) one begins to feel that they are genuinely just better than the other person on some level - they are in some kind of dominant position. And this leads to looking down on them. There is an almost compulsion within people's minds to belittle and mock those one perceives as beneath them. It's a famous theme in fiction for even those trying to repress this to end up belittling in the other direction, where they reveal they look down on others through their efforts to not do just that. It's a very nasty, primal aspect of the human mind.

And so what happens in this thread is that GSwole openly expresses that he cares about piracy, ergo inspiring those in the thread to look down on him, then he confronts them with their cognitive dissonance, giving them impetus to lash out. Consider "cool" h-game devs who are "chill" with pirates. It doesn't really matter if on the inside they are seething too. On the outside if they present themselves as chill, then there is no power imbalance, and pirates dont feel superior to the devs - they aren't encouraged to belittle them. Then if the dev does not thrust dissonance in people's faces, they are content to remain satisfied and content with themselves, no need to go out of their way to prove a point or establish any aspect of their being or be snarky or self-defensive and so on. That is much wiser in every way, so it's what most people do where they can help it. The problem is just that sometimes, a person may care too much to do that.

I need to hire you to pad my games text instead of doing it myself. You can easily print out chat gpt length responses and dialogues. How do you feel about working for 1 png a month with a cast member of your choice? Of course all the normal rules apply.

 

[Apollo259]

I need to hire you to pad my games text instead of doing it myself. You can easily print out chat gpt length responses and dialogues. How do you feel about working for 1 png a month with a cast member of your choice? Of course all the normal rules apply.

At least convert that single png to a max bit depth tiff before you send it to them. Padded images for padded paragraphs would be a more equitable trade.

 

[Moonflare]

Update is nearly half way complete and we only have around 10 previews with 9 of them being labeled after the latest update. Either Sel is behind on work or he's hiding something from us.

He's hiding that he spends all his time writing books posts here through an alt account and working on some other game while getting paid for LiL. Oh wait, he's not hiding that.

Edit: Almost thought I had replied to some other person due to name change. Bingoogus syndrome upon us all guess I'll have to change my name to GothChick69.

Edit2: seriously though, if this update will reveal Himawari's plan, then I'm pretty sure anything would be a huge spoiler. Maybe that's wishful thinking... We'll see.

 

[alteros]

Why is it that once you get to lust events Sensei asks them to call him something else anyway. There's no enforced consistency either.

 

[FireCazador]

The fun part about starting again is remember all the things and compare the old time with the actual time Sensei life. Also i fear some moments that i saw long time ago that stabbed me pretty hard

Spoiler: Oh, sad memories

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[Detective Dc345]

I'm glad my spooky name change is getting the right reactions . The "Dc" doesn't stand for demon cock and it will go back to normal after spooky month is over. I just hope nobody takes my moniker in the mean time because I don't want to be stuck as DemonCock345 forever.

 

[crustlord12]

Edit: Almost thought I had replied to some other person due to name change. Bingoogus syndrome upon us all guess I'll have to change my name to GothChick69

Verboten, no more username or avatar pictures changes allowed by any regulars

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Verboten, no more username or avatar pictures changes allowed by any regulars

Got it

 

[Vinnie0454]

i'm bit confused on the event timestamps.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Verboten, no more username or avatar pictures changes allowed by any regulars

I ALMOST changed my name to burglenurgleboobs just to spite you, but that required effort, so fuck that.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

The fun part about starting again is remember all the things and compare the old time with the actual time Sensei life. Also i fear some moments that i saw long time ago that stabbed me pretty hard

Spoiler: Oh, sad memories

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Meanwhile, some other old moments also stab you, but in the wrong way
especially after knowing how much she knows

Spoiler: Oh, bad memories

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[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Meanwhile, some other old moments also stab you, but in the wrong way
especially after knowing how much she knows

Spoiler: Oh, bad memories

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This will stab you. Literally