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It’s on the front page. You can download 0.44 right now if you want to.
- Sep 5, 2020
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The obvious answer is "right now, on page 1 of this thread" but if you're trying to be respectful to the dev (trust me, he has no interest in being respectful back to you, even if you're paying him) and waiting for the release to be official, that usually happens some time on the 15th, so "some time today if he feels like it, soon(tm) if he's being a salty bitch again"
Lol, there was that one reset where he made it quite clear how much he doesn't like us. But also, I'm not super duper familiar with this board so I was under the impression that piracy wasn't promoted here. So thanks for informing me, because I legitimately didn't know 0.44 was available here.
This is a piracy site
- Sep 5, 2020
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Oh, he's made it crystal clear that he holds EVERYONE who plays this game in contempt. He just has additional contempt to spare for those of us who use this site.
While there's a whole "we frown on piracy" vibe on some threads, assume they're winking at you when they say it. Devs may hate it, but most of the games here are here despite the devs, not because of them.
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You know, I used to actually wait for the public release simply because the wiki was usually updated by then, even at times when I was subbed I used to wait, unless it was a big chain event update. But I guess there was less chain events in general back then so maybe it was more annoying, or I was less used to the event trigger patterns. But then the wiki stopped updating so I just went back to playing on the SubscribeStar release.
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When devs a) are regular and transparent with their update schedule, b) have a predictable period between releasing the premium/backers/superduper version and the freebie, and c) generally deal with players in a gracious and/or professional manner, I’m happy to respect embargoes.
Selebus covers a) and b), but (after about 2021) definitely not c).
Furthermore, in the past 30 years I’ve spent a grand total of $0.00 on video games. I expect my expenditures this year to be in line with that trend.* So I’m not costing any game dev a dime by downloading here.
*I’ve spent lots on other forms of entertainment. More than I probably should have. But games? Nah. I’m old. ;-)
ETA: I’ve said this before: I’ve made my living my whole adult life off the sale of copyright-protected work. I don’t like piracy.
I also recognize that most pirates will never become paying customers — and that grey-market sites like this provide invaluable a real opportunity for testing, for marketing, and for building a following.
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Looks like this guy hasn't been cheesed before
So when I visit the dorms I only get affection and the Invite over remains blocked on the phone, I really don't know what to do
Sel really milked this game from the first day I stepped into college to the day I finally became a corpo slave
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Every work deserves a payment and if it is a good work then it deserves a good monetary reward. Dont really understand some people desire to shun or sarcastically comment on Sel financial success. Pirates of all people should never be allowed to do such thing anyway.
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I think there's two angles to this: general cognitive dissonance, and a sense of power.
There are few things online which engender cognitive dissonance on the level of piracy, which explains all sorts of cringeworthy behavior online dating all the way back to the LOL, LIMEWIRE animation from like 2007. The fact is that piracy is an anti-social act which harms creators, but the convenience of the act (the lack of legal consequences) combined with the personal benefit of saving money means almost everyone does it anyway. And what happens when people who consider themselves good or reasonably moral people are faced with the fact they are regularly committing an immoral, harmful act? Their brain twists over itself to resolve the dissonance. "Ah, actually there is no real harm, you see I never would have bought the thing anyway." "Ah, actually, I would have bought it (I'm a good person), but I just can't afford to right now." "Yeah I'm kind of an asshole, I pirate, but in a lovable edgy way, I'm the cool uncle." Etc. And in a vacuum, the brain's natural self defense mechanism will protect someone from self-reflection or the need to acknowledge personal guilt. But GSwole doesn't allow that to happen and repeatedly confronts people with reality, thereby throwing the false harmony into disarray and forcing one to confront the cognitive dissonance again, which is unpleasant. Nobody likes that.
Secondly is the sense of power. There's almost nothing worse (metaphorically) you can do on the internet than care about something, because caring is weakness. The seminal visual novel Cross Channel (one of my top 5 "everyone should play" visual novels) has a line where someone observes that love is a battle wherein whoever falls in love first loses, because the other person will have all the power over them. Similarly, online, expressing that you care about something opens up an avenue for strangers to have power over you, and this power they WILL notice having. The meaning here is obvious. GSwole doesn't want people to pirate their game. Person B pirates the game. Person B has the power in this dynamic. They feel a sense of dominance and superiority surge through them like pure energy, as ridiculous as that may sound. On a subconscious level (and sometimes conscious) one begins to feel that they are genuinely just better than the other person on some level - they are in some kind of dominant position. And this leads to looking down on them. There is an almost compulsion within people's minds to belittle and mock those one perceives as beneath them. It's a famous theme in fiction for even those trying to repress this to end up belittling in the other direction, where they reveal they look down on others through their efforts to not do just that. It's a very nasty, primal aspect of the human mind.
And so what happens in this thread is that GSwole openly expresses that he cares about piracy, ergo inspiring those in the thread to look down on him, then he confronts them with their cognitive dissonance, giving them impetus to lash out. Consider "cool" h-game devs who are "chill" with pirates. It doesn't really matter if on the inside they are seething too. On the outside if they present themselves as chill, then there is no power imbalance, and pirates dont feel superior to the devs - they aren't encouraged to belittle them. Then if the dev does not thrust dissonance in people's faces, they are content to remain satisfied and content with themselves, no need to go out of their way to prove a point or establish any aspect of their being or be snarky or self-defensive and so on. That is much wiser in every way, so it's what most people do where they can help it. The problem is just that sometimes, a person may care too much to do that.
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LiL is a VN, no doubt. The same way Sengoku Rance and Ace Attorney are VNs. They probably mean it's not a classic VN that does not include gameplay elements like map movement and time/resources management. In that genre the devs have much better control over the storytelling compared to sandboxes, so I think the difference was worth mentioning.
Sel basically goes around the sandbox by making long event chains whenever convenient, but the base game is still not a classic VN.
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Wall of text. Dont care+ do agree+ did read. I just wanted to call certain someone a Лужков(кто в теме тот понял, а кто не понял тот Хлопонин), no need to waste your talents on me. Some people do take pride in them being pirates, I am a early fan of Xatab, Mechanics and other guys, so I do not have issue with pirates, but I do feel disdain to these who consider pirating as some sort of achievement to be proud of. We used to pirate because we were fucking poor as fuck and the legitimate physical copies were so expensive as if we lived in Switzerland back then, while non official physical copies would not work or have a fucking russian "professional translators" doing text and speech translation that was horrendous compared to original english. New generation of pirates are trash, we were pirates because we had no choice, new pirates become such because they are entitled nepo babies. Edit: new "legitimate" translation companies did not go that far away from Fargus(or Akella even) by the way, I actually miss these fuckers and some others as well.
Editx2: it also seem some moderator did get what I mean by referring to Лужков. You can delete russian words in this comment too. Так или иначе, кидаю приветствие всем нашим
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Friend, don't you know how to respond to someone without sending a wall of paragraphs? ;-;
Waiting to see how the answer "no" gets expanded to seven paragraphs.
Sometimes I just have a lot to say. The clearer one's picture of the world is the more words it can take to describe it at times. That said, I'm facing two problems here: one, the general mundanity of posts here (can DeSkel break outta here and make some kind of blog elsewhere as the certified "Most Based Nodoka Poster Alive?"), and two, the realization that indeed F95 is associated with piracy. I don't usually pirate things and just came here for an alternative source of LiL discussion, but the realization that one's presence here is taken as some kind of "gotcha" in a never-ending metagame to purge the discord of pirates is deeply unpleasant. Not that I am hugely against piracy (as LiL itself says at some point, "fuck ethics," and I hardly hold anyone to following the categorical imperative) but I'm posting here specifically to avoid the choking context of the discord. Selebus posting on a sockpuppet account here and monitoring everything people say is exactly what I wanted to avoid. I feel myself even now being struck by the compulsion to distort and alter my phrasing of things to avoid his eternally-remembering eyes. That's the kind of presence Selebus is: one who derives so much meaning and has so much awareness the world bends around them. MFer remembers someone using a slightly out of the ordinary word ten months ago.
(And yeah GSwole is 100% him, even putting aside the fact he's outright saying that recently, just look at the posting history lmao; reacting with laughing emoji every time people ask for a save, subtly correcting people who are wrong about something he is invested in, making prescient comments about certain things like Io getting dicked... IDK what compelled him to come out of the shadows and post more normally but it's somewhat disconcerting seeing the fake lowercase he initially posted with. What does it mean for someone to have so many models within themselves they can reproduce at will, just as they write all their true-to-life characters? Which is the "real" him? One could say at that point perspective becomes a choice rather than a natural state of being, perhaps; it's not like writing ""Pareidolia"" didn't give him experience here. I know my writing style is distinctive but I keep to it anyway for that reason, and don't enjoy outside sources providing incentives to change.)