Antosha

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I need to ask, weren't people saying they couldn't talk to Maya in the dorms after 0.45? At least they could only talk to her in the hallway? I can get the generic room events. I thought the bug was her showing up in the hallway when it should be impossible to talk to her.
IIRC, you can talk to her in the dorm, but if you go to the shrine you still get the glitched out earlier non-event. Her relationship with Akira is changing—Sensei no longer seems to blank out when she's in front of him. In either case, one or the other is wrong.
 
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I need to ask, weren't people saying they couldn't talk to Maya in the dorms after 0.45? At least they could only talk to her in the hallway? I can get the generic room events. I thought the bug was her showing up in the hallway when it should be impossible to talk to her.
From what I saw there are two things people were were complaining back then.
- Mechanistically you can get her generic room event, but Sensei shouldn't be able to or absolutely do not want to visit Maya's dorm according to the plot. Her room option not getting disabled was considered by several to be an oversight.

- At this moment in Ch4, dorm hallway is supposed to be always empty. However, by inviting over certain girls and finishing their generic events, the script afterwards falsely drops you back to Ch3 menu and EVERYTHING goes back to what it was like in Ch3, talking to girls in the hallway, visiting Chika at the mall, etc. This is instead an actual bug and not just an oversight.

Doesn't the shampoo block you from the happy event on the dorms? I'd say that's a big consequence.
Correct. Currently You have one chance to get rid off the shampoo, that is during reset7 part2 puzzle when you "Open a door". If you're don't, by the end of v0.45 you will be and remain soaplocked from not just Arms Bent Back but also two Futaba's events, Weapons of Mass Destruction and My Curse, until further notice.
edit: the option of giving away shampoo in Ayane's As You Wish actually does nothing. Incorrect info removed.

There may be another chance (maybe an unavoidable one) to get rid off it forever, as Sensei at some point HAS to officially start going back to visiting dorm, but one really can't rule out the possibility of Selly wanting to keep punishing those he deems worthy of it for extended period of time.
 
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Can i be a party popper and ask a question?

Why does Sekai hates being called Ms. Arakawa? Is it because it makes her remember nozomu? Or her original last name so important to her that being a Arakawa is a downgrade?
 
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Can i be a party popper and ask a question?

Why does Sekai hates being called Ms. Arakawa? Is it because it makes her remember nozomu? Or her original last name so important to her that being a Arakawa is a downgrade?
Who knows. Maybe it's just because she sounds old, or takes offense to "being old" with her pedophilic tendencies.
 
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Can i be a party popper and ask a question?

Why does Sekai hates being called Ms. Arakawa? Is it because it makes her remember nozomu? Or her original last name so important to her that being a Arakawa is a downgrade?
Sekai hates her previous name, which would be Sekai Miyahara. She chooses not to answer anyone that calls her Miyahara, per Karin's dad testimony. Other than that, Sekai would also naturally be an Arakawa by birth (being Yuu's daughter with Miu), just not by name.

Her disliking being called Ms. Arakawa would likely be because of Nozomu, but could be overall because she hates the name to begin with since it comes from Yuu, which likely left her mom for Saki, or something happened that she was unable to have his name since birth.

In the timeline that she marries Akira, she would have been Ms. Arakawa by marriage to Nozomu before, so maybe it makes her remember bad memories (as she was being abused at the time). Deep theorizing aside, the simplest theory would be that it makes her feel old, useful to remember that she's more or less 10 years older than Akira, so by the time that the timetravel happens, Akira would be 30 and she'd be around 40.
 

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Sekai hates her previous name, which would be Sekai Miyahara. She chooses not to answer anyone that calls her Miyahara, per Karin's dad testimony. Other than that, Sekai would also naturally be an Arakawa by birth (being Yuu's daughter with Miu), just not by name.

Her disliking being called Ms. Arakawa would likely be because of Nozomu, but could be overall because she hates the name to begin with since it comes from Yuu, which likely left her mom for Saki, or something happened that she was unable to have his name since birth.

In the timeline that she marries Akira, she would have been Ms. Arakawa by marriage to Nozomu before, so maybe it makes her remember bad memories (as she was being abused at the time). Deep theorizing aside, the simplest theory would be that it makes her feel old, useful to remember that she's more or less 10 years older than Akira, so by the time that the timetravel happens, Akira would be 30 and she'd be around 40.
I totally forgot about Karin's dad and Wakana's investigation.
 
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I totally forgot about Karin's dad and Wakana's investigation.
I wonder how something everyone knows and ignores, in the timeline where she's alive, would've interacted with Wakana, or if she would have. I remember Sensei describing her as someone who wanted to do good and watch her students succeed, and his initial mistaken suspicions of her doomer attitude and eye bags being a somewhat unconscious response to nothing they do mattering.
 
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It seems like we're largely skeptical of Pareidolia's claim of both benevolence and subsequent banishment to the bottom of the well. I admit I took its claims at face value and assumed it would exit the narrative, but I likewise see the value in the perspective of its unity with HOPE. Any strong opinions on this particular god's place in the narrative moving forward?
 

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It seems like we're largely skeptical of Pareidolia's claim of both benevolence and subsequent banishment to the bottom of the well. I admit I took its claims at face value and assumed it would exit the narrative, but I likewise see the value in the perspective of its unity with HOPE. Any strong opinions on this particular god's place in the narrative moving forward?
short answer: we'll have to wait and see.

longer answer: I don't think Pareidolia is outright lying, even if he's lying.We have seen proof that gods are bound to their legends, and he is the concerned god. He has been dragged from the well by Akira when he was a kid, and provided for Akira "concern" since then. So even if he is lying, it would still be out of concern. It is highly unlikely that Pareidolia is "dead", as even during his sacrifice he makes mention of leaving gifts scattered through the timeline and that "when they next meet, he hopes they'll be able to harmonize better" or some such. Pareidolia is definitely taking his biggest gamble there (by sacrificing himself), including sending our Nodoka as one of the gifts to "move Akira", that ultimately led to her sacrifice in order for Akira to learn that Ami is a psychopath (among other things).

just plain long answer: We still don't know enough about the nature of the gods, what we do know now, although helpful, complicated things further. There are millions of gods, and they are born and vanish without much notice (which is a very real take on the eastern approach to gods anyway). Pray to the moon enough and you might summon a moon god, same for air, same for chair, same for anything really. Forget about them, and it's down to the bottom of the well, and eventual manifestation as a human, or worse. The way this complicates things is because we still don't know if the four gods are of the same group as these or not. Are HOPE, Wires, Pareidolia and USER4 gods that just happened to get to this cycle first? (or are they something different, as Akira is called the child of makeshift gods, maybe these gods aren't even real gods in the first place). Is the myth of the four that were one just a way to interpret the notion that the Kaori (or a similar hotel) at the time had four slots to be filled and they were the first in? Without proper understanding of this, it becomes hard for us to properly distinguish between HOPE the peerless god of light coming back with "3"s around him just after Pareidolia's gone (which is USER3) being their union, or another random thing thrown out there.

Okay, I'm tired of writing. Pareidolia, teleport me back home. Or to Molly's house... Actually, teleport me and Molly to a cosplay store instead.

(praise Pareidolia, our one true bro and uber service)
 
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