Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

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DeanNoriko said:
Btw, sorry for the off-topic but:
Since I know some of you here have played several Persona games, what would you recommend in my situation?
I played Persona 4 back in the day, like at least 15 years ago and really liked it.
I know bought Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal.
Should I indulge in my nostalgia and play through Persona 4 again or go straight to Persona 5? I understand the newer iteration has mor QoL features and just plays more smoothly. But I didn't necessarily hate the grind (though the dungeon design was kinda ass ngl), since I was a "gotta catch them all" addict when it came to collecting those cards or whatever they were, I don't even remember.
Any advice or suggestions are welcome :)
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The big difference in the 3 modern Personas is in how dungeon design is handled.

Persona 3 has Tartarus, which is a single tower with a ton of floors, each procedurally generated (so it will change when you leave and come back). More floors unlock as story progresses.

Persona 4 has dungeons -- each story arc has an independent dungeon with a semi-randomized floor pattern tied to the part of the story you're currently on.

Persona 5 does both -- Palaces (dungeons) tied to that month's story arc (main quests) and a Tartarus-style dungeon called Mementos, which is where the side quests are handled. In Royal, Palaces are fixed-map, but Mementos is procedurally generated.

Persona 5 Royal tends to be easier than Persona 4 Golden, outside of one encounter that is artificially hard on lower difficulty settings because of how damage scaling and weaknesses work (it's actually easiest on the highest difficulty as a result).

In terms of story and characters, there's not really a wrong answer. If you like turn-based JRPGs, you're probably going to enjoy the 100 hours you sink into either one (and Persona 3 Reload, which came out this year, is also exceptional).
 
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And we're back here, the dev who hates his audience, begging them to give him more money since his shitty behaviour has cut him off from any measurable supporter growth...
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He shot himself in the foot so badly, I remember seeing posts about him malding over another h game making more than him.
Hard to support someone like that, especially financially.

His attitude is the only reason I didn't back him on patreon, nor later on subscribestar.

Edit: He's still doing that.
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He shot himself in the foot so badly, I remember seeing posts about him malding over another h game making more than him.
Hard to support someone like that, especially financially.

His attitude is the only reason I didn't back him on patreon, nor later on subscribestar.

Edit: He's still doing that.
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Sel shitting on DarkCookie/Summertime Saga is very much justifiable. Even though Sel doesn't make anywhere near what his team brings in monthly, Sel is very consistent with Lil (which is probably his only redeeming quality). Unlike DC which hasn't released a real update in 2 years I believe. Which makes me think they're spending all their money on crack like the FNF devs.
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It's funny, actually it's fucking surreal, that the person I like the most in this screenshot is Nodoka :ROFLMAO: Praise the one true martyr in all her glory, and shame upon the one consumed by rabies and this blight in the middle.

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Sel shitting on DarkCookie/Summertime Saga is very much justifiable. Even though Sel doesn't make anywhere near what his team brings in monthly, Sel is very consistent with Lil (which is probably his only redeeming quality). Unlike DC which hasn't released a real update in 2 years I believe.
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Well, it makes sense if you put it like that, but it's also naive from Selebus part. Summertime Saga has a much, much, broader appeal than LiL. And yeah, the fact that no communication would be much better than what Selebus tends to say and do from time to time, he's LiL's worst enemy.

Edit: Also because this doesn't merit its own post:
I had forgotten how in-depth Haruka's cheating scene was, and also Futaba's first handjob, but that one was just sad.
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Like really fucking sad. Girl's first sexual experience was literally being used as a tool and have that be made clear (also very realistic, sadly).
 
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dantarium said:
you know, with how the story is progressing with the relationships front, Im starting to suspect that the F$%6, Marry, Kill event wasnt just an cutesy little game
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Imagine if Kirin x Sensei turns out to be the True End:
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Nodoka might have a "Getting murdered" fetish.

Definitely interested in seeing if Sensei honors her wishes though. A Nodoka who just wants hugs and to watch Sensei (her "dad") fuck everyone, would be a nice change of pace.
 
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Dc345 said:
Sel shitting on DarkCookie/Summertime Saga is very much justifiable. Even though Sel doesn't make anywhere near what his team brings in monthly, Sel is very consistent with Lil (which is probably his only redeeming quality). Unlike DC which hasn't released a real update in 2 years I believe. Which makes me think they're spending all their money on crack like the FNF devs.
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If most of the people who back DC are doing it for $2-3 per month, I wonder how many of those 33, 193 subscribers are people who have completely forgotten about it and don't notice the couple of dollars a month is still going out.
 
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Is there any chance that selebus can get out of blacklist.

I read about what he did and he gets what he deserves then i started replaying the game, i realised this is my favorite piece of media i enjoyed in recent years. I can't help but imagine a world, in which he doesn't stop being a egoistic dipshit but at least contains himself and his discord, and gets the money he deserves.

And it's not just about money. It's about other people can find this game because i found this game last year by pure luck and there are probably tons of people missing what this game/story offers.
 
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Well, it makes sense if you put it like that, but it's also naive from Selebus part. Summertime Saga has a much, much, broader appeal than LiL. And yeah, the fact that no communication would be much better than what Selebus tends to say and do from time to time, he's LiL's worst enemy.
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I truly, honestly do not get this. If Selebus called my mom a whore, or started spouting racist or homophobic bullshit, then I would stop supporting him, but all the rest of it seems pretty irrelevant.
 
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Budoop said:
He shot himself in the foot so badly, I remember seeing posts about him malding over another h game making more than him.
Hard to support someone like that, especially financially.

His attitude is the only reason I didn't back him on patreon, nor later on subscribestar.

Edit: He's still doing that.
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Summertime Saga went over a year without a content update.

No, seriously, if that game can make as much money as it does under those conditions, ANY game should be able to. The bar is literally on the floor these days.
 
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fasoaga said:
Is there any chance that selebus can get out of blacklist.

I read about what he did and he gets what he deserves then i started replaying the game, i realised this is my favorite piece of media i enjoyed in recent years. I can't help but imagine a world, in which he doesn't stop being a egoistic dipshit but at least contains himself and his discord, and gets the money he deserves.

And it's not just about money. It's about other people can find this game because i found this game last year by pure luck and there are probably tons of people missing what this game/story offers.
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Not going to happen.

Sel was actively trying to get the game deleted from the site when he got blacklisted.
 
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Dc345 said:
Sel shitting on DarkCookie/Summertime Saga is very much justifiable. Even though Sel doesn't make anywhere near what his team brings in monthly, Sel is very consistent with Lil (which is probably his only redeeming quality). Unlike DC which hasn't released a real update in 2 years I believe. Which makes me think they're spending all their money on crack like the FNF devs.
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I didn't actually know this, I knew the quality was sub-par (at least in my opinion, generic honey select slop) but that does put a good perspective on it. I would say without doubt Selebus' game is stupid high levels of quality above 90% of the shit on this site, only complaint is the H-Scenes but whatever, the characters are too good to pass up.
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Ahh yes, a tale as old as time.
barglenarglezous said:
Summertime Saga went over a year without a content update.

No, seriously, if that game can make as much money as it does under those conditions, ANY game should be able to. The bar is literally on the floor these days.
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Excellent point, I remember Redamz' Monster Girl Island fiasco quite well, raked it in a metric shit ton of money and did nothing with it.

My complaint is less on the comparisons and market and more of the attitude itself, sure he's definitely making a higher quality product, but it's got much less broad appeal, we've seen a few people these past pages say they're putting the game down or don't want to continue due to the darker elements. (Not that I resonate with that mind you).

The problem is two-fold, in that we know Sel has a tendency to be an ass hat, and seeing that sort of thing elevates it.
Also implying he has "stress" when making nearly 10k a month is fucking wild, dude is on nearly 5x my salary and I can nearly go for a mortgage, even in this economy.
 
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fasoaga said:
Is there any chance that selebus can get out of blacklist.

I read about what he did and he gets what he deserves then i started replaying the game, i realised this is my favorite piece of media i enjoyed in recent years. I can't help but imagine a world, in which he doesn't stop being a egoistic dipshit but at least contains himself and his discord, and gets the money he deserves.

And it's not just about money. It's about other people can find this game because i found this game last year by pure luck and there are probably tons of people missing what this game/story offers.
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I also found out about this game by chance through word of mouth, but I don't think that increasing its popularity or the amount of money the author receives will necessarily make the game better. And I'm sure more people will eventually learn about the game
 
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