Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

[jclark1337]

Ahh reached chapter 3 and Niki's first event What It Takes To Move Forward and wow I continue to be astonished at how much I resonate with the philosophical themes of this story on a daily level.



I'm constantly seeking out dark stories about broken people and tragedy partly because I empathize with the self-loathing part of myself that I struggled with for a LONG time.
But also feel like I'm trying to balance things out because things are...while they aren't perfect. I'm OKAY now...
but there definitely is always a part of me that feels scared, that if things get too good I will have to fall and I'm scared to find out what that would mean.
So I can't let myself be too HAPPY, I must balance it out with suffering even if it's through the lense of a piece of media.
And I'm eating this shit up.

Hearing these sad and traumatic tales really puts into perspective how worse it could be and prevents things from feeling for granted.
It makes all the good moments in these stories (and sometimes real life) feel almost euphoric.

Also it's kinda scary how certain aspects of Niki and Akira's relationship mirror my own first love. We gave each other our virginity when we were still together so that much is different, but she still meant a lot to me and of course it hurt when we fell apart. I'm sure many people had this type of first love, there's a reason why it's a trope but man the writing really nails the feeling of that relationship for me and makes me reminisce.

 

[Moonflare]

Ahh reached chapter 3 and Niki's first event What It Takes To Move Forward and wow I continue to be astonished at how much I resonate with the philosophical themes of this story on a daily level.
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I'm constantly seeking out dark stories about broken people and tragedy partly because I empathize with the self-loathing part of myself that I struggled with for a LONG time.
But also feel like I'm trying to balance things out because things are...while they aren't perfect. I'm OKAY now...
but there definitely is always a part of me that feels scared, that if things get too good I will have to fall and I'm scared to find out what that would mean.
So I can't let myself be too HAPPY, I must balance it out with suffering even if it's through the lense of a piece of media.
And I'm eating this shit up. I honestly prefer things this way, these sad and traumatic tales

Hearing these sad and traumatic tales really puts into perspective how worse it could be and prevents things from feeling for granted.
It makes all the good moments in these stories (and sometimes real life) feel almost euphoric.

Also it's kinda scary how certain aspects of Niki and Akira's relationship mirror my own first love. We gave each other our virginity when we were still together so that much is different, but she still meant a lot to me and of course it hurt when we fell apart. I'm sure many people had this type of first love, there's a reason why it's a trope but man the writing really nails the feeling of that relationship for me and makes me reminisce.

Well, that's the beauty of a good story. It is fiction, but the way we work through our stuff alongside these characters is very much real. I'm glad the story resonated with you in a good way, I'd wager many of us here have had those moments as well.

 

[Reonoss]

//////////////////////YES, GRADIENTS ARE IMPORTANT, I LOVE THESE ONES.
WE ARE ONLY MISSING RIN, A REPLACEMENT FOR THE IMPOSTOR IN THE BACK, AND A CERTAIN YELLOW-EYED GIRL
HOW CAN A GOD SEE THE FULL PICTURE OTHERWISE? HOW MANY TIMES DID I TELL YOU TO USE YOUR EYES?
HAVEN'T YOU FIGURED IT YET?
WOULD I CHEAT DESTINY OR WOULD I LIE TO MY SELF AND SAY IT'S FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT?
THE WAY I SEE IT, THIS IS A GAME ABOUT BEING HAPPY, AND YOU NEVER STOPPED PLAYING

CMYK
CMYK
CMYK
CMYK
CMYK

CHOOSE YOUR FRIEND
LET THEM BE HAPPY

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no

 

[givemeabeer]

Wait a fucking minute...

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Since we don't know how this world work exactly, for now at least, we can only theorize.
But, I'm genuinely against the theories about Sensei being a pillar, or, in other words, whenever he is reset everyone will be hard reset.
Mostly because it will not be interresting narratively, and, as far as I remember, Maya didn't say the world get hard reset when she fuck«reset» Sensei, but that she provoque the reset phenomenon.
And the reset phenomenon, isn't a «hard reset», it's just the end of a «loop».

Or, at least, that's how I understand it.
But, on that line, I'm getting through something else, mostly about the beginning of the chapter 3.

Spoiler: About the «trauma», chapter 3, and some point in 0.46, spoiler alert.

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So, with all that, the upcoming dark route, if I have to guess, will be about Ami. And how she's gonna regain control.
Surely, Maya will talk to Sensei about what Ami is, and after that... that gonna be a red route.

A bloody red route.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Either Sel is taking one of his iconic mid-development vacations or he's hunched over a tub of ice cream mourning the loss of David Lynch. Either way Sel is Mia

 

[elricsecret]

why maya still says this when u refuse to have sex with Ami

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is this a bug or Am I missing something?

 

[alteros]

lmao

 

[VoidExile]

Day 36 character count 13004.

Spoiler: Day 486-494, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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[Moonflare]

why maya still says this when u refuse to have sex with Ami

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is this a bug or Am I missing something?

she says that because it happens, you, the player, just chose not to see it. Ami also talks about it regardless.

which, yeah, I don't know how that fits into "amifingered" being false, cause that'd mean that Akira took Ami's virginity while she was pretending to be Maya right then, while on the "good uncle" path.

yet another example of green path being the one true path for things making most sense.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

My god it took me forever to understand something so simple. Akira needs to take something that does not belong to him, because Sekai took something from him that didn't belong to her.

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aramaug might have some answers for this, since I remember him talking about this event a while back. But I welcome others' perspectives as well.

This is a pretty interesting way to perceive Sekai’s behavior, and I bet there has to be some level of truth in here with this as it helps explain why and how ghost Sekai knows what the gods want from Akira: not because this is somehow a common knowledge to those now reside in a different plane, but it's because Sekai is a former victim of the same divine power.

My thoughts on your questions can generalized into a single assumption: the highest principle of a god's homework is to "learn to feel through someone" rather than simply boiling down to "having sex with minors". As in, though both Akira's and Sekai's homework all involving "taking something that does not belong to you" sound very spot on and fitting to the core idea of the game, it is perhaps that what Sekai was tasked to do wasn't exactly the same as what Akira was tasked to do despite the fact that BOTH of them performed statutory rape. Akira's homework looked like this is might be due to her past relations with Sekai, and following the same idea, how Sekai's homework might also be designed based on a something/someone in her own life prior to meeting Akira; Sekai falling in love with Akira and scarring him for life was the result of her homework and her eventually very twisted love, but not the method to finish her homework.
(My additional question here is that this train of thought can supposedly be backtracked to Yuu, the presumed source of that bloodline and all the weird shit. What was his homework back then if any?)

And all of this might be something apart from just maintaining believers. Having believers is, according to Pareidolia and the content during reset1 and reset2 opening, presumed to be how gods remain in power and alive; how they practice that power and livelihood might be a completely different story (i.e., in a short and vile sentence: if you believe in HOPE, he will live; but he will ask you rape kids as long as he lives because the chaotic power you help bring into being will have to act on something).

Applying all these to HOPE:
- The "taking something that does not belong to you" is a specific task for Akira instead of HOPE's sole working principle, even if Sekai ended up indeed taking something that didn't belong to her.
- It has to be Akira and not some other randoms HOPE can cast some effects on to carry out his will because, at the current point of time, Akira might be presumably the only available special person after Sekai's death
- Transference might be the same as "taking something that does not belong to you" because Akira's been fucking everything since he woke up and apparently HOPE is still not happy with him; it might have to be some selected females like Sana by the end of Ch3 being handed over on a silver plate, so that the warmth can flow back to him (or however Yasu described about the proper way to transfer love back to HOPE). Or, transference and "taking something that does not belong to you" are in fact different things.
(skipping Wires because imo the core belief of the second god has not been well demonstrated yet)

why maya still says this when u refuse to have sex with Ami

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is this a bug or Am I missing something?

A few frames prior to that dialogue was this glitchy scene, so it wasn't an oversight at least. As for the nature of this contradiction, you can either believe that somehow good uncle route got briefly course corrected to the bad uncle route, or Selly was lazy or unwilling to to make an alternative for those who didn't fuck Ami.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Mistress of Munks...?

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[shmurfer]

Mistress of Munks...?

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[shmurfer]

Sana? Wtf was that?
"You'll never be off the hook, Sensei. Not until my mom cuts the line. And even then, you'll have to swim away with it dangling off your lip, hanging there until the day you die." wtf...?

You'd have only seen that dialogue if you've been sleeping with Sara. Sana really doesn't want you around Sara for reasons she isn't willing to admit yet, maybe even to herself. (The last chat you had with her was the condoms in Sara's room)

Either way she's going to be possessive until she's convinced there's nothing going on between you two. Considering what this game is...fun times ahead!

Carrot are evil! How dare they make us see all the horrible things in the world!?

Huh. This might be something I need to remember myself as a dropped thread in modern updates.

Apparently this lottery code can flag you as a cheater if you didn't play this happy event. Actually... what do being flagged as a cheater even do?

Not sure where you're reading that, but Sel has at this point already put work into the reset puzzles, punishing people who follow a guide for the answers and skipping through his events. I could see him pulling the same trick and locking you out of progressing the game if you tried going to the next reset without seeing this happy event, which is manually triggered.

The rest is all about care packages commentary.

I hope you read discussions about them and protected yourself. If you've loaded them into the game I can't guarantee how safe you'll be. Maybe make a backup of your saves outside of the game folder just in case.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

lso, why Sakakibara and not Sakibara?

Because Sana and Sara are Sakakibaras. Not Sakibaras.

That was a rather tame happy event in the jumpscare factor.

Not spoilering much, but from this point the happy events stop trying to make you scared but rather telling something very interesting. Hell, they never tried to scare you, but making you feel discomfort, yes. Aside for the very first one, which is trying to be scary and basically a filter: "are you going to keep playing this game or not?"

...well that aged poorly. They were still waiting right outside.

One of most hilarious scenes in the game.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

True lies.

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[hopeisdead6969]

Also, more fodder for the Yumi is actually tsundere in the beginning theory.

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[Moonflare]

This played for me after the event where Sensei first meets up with Makoto outside of school hours on Saturday, at the park. After the scene, it cuts to Yumi from behind, observing them in secret, but there's no real payoff for it.

The payoff is at "this town has two halves". Yumi will mention Makoto and ask Akira if he's fucking her, which he will then interpret as her being jealous, which spirals into what happened.

*There are also instances of her being jealous of Futaba, but that's beside the point.

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[hopeisdead6969]

The payoff is at "this town has two halves". Yumi will mention Makoto and ask Akira if he's fucking her, which he will then interpret as her being jealous, which spirals into what happened.

WHOA! SPOILERS, BRO! I've only played through the game twice so far!

But yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just taking it from the perspective of someone pretending they are an idiot (which I'm not) that might have missed a shit ton of stuff (which I of course didn't) and could find interesting on a subsequent subsequent playthrough.

Considering I didn't even take the game seriously until "this town has two halves" on my initial run, and my second playthrough was far to inebriated to be remembered, I think its safe to say that this playthrough is quite different for me, and reading your (and all the lore folk's) explanations has made it a much more enriching experience. I just hope to give some points of interest to other (totally not idiot) people like myself that might find it interesting.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

I believe Yumi supposed to take Ayane's place.

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[LessonsInDissonance]

I believe Yumi supposed to take Ayane's place.

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As much as I love Yumi, I am glad that Selebus decided to go for a calmer approach with the story.

Your tinfoil theory isn't that tinfoily, but you got it the other way around.
Based on what we can see in the game, Yumi was the special girl in the past based on her subconscious memories, but now it's Ayane, it's her who replaced Yumi.