Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Not sure the answers for Sensei Quest 4b and 4c are correct. Has anyone verified? 4b is good on the first two steps but the last on is not working. on 4v the second step is not working. That is why I came on here to ask.

I have made an in-depth walkthrough with pictures.

Click on the following post to jump to it, sensei-quest is at the end of it.

0.44 Triggers (and reset puzzle answers).

There are 18 events (one of which is a happy event, and the reason as to why i'm shaken to the core).

All events are linked (starting on a friday) - so this version of triggers will be a little different from the usual. As for the happy event, it is triggered during the reset "puzzle". Since that's going to take a lot of explanation, let's get everything else out of the way first:

There are some calls for flags during the update, but nothing major. Relevant flags are Amifingered, Ayane and/or Tsubasa threesome and Stomachache (this is the big variant). But you don't get locked out of anything, these just change dialogue.

The hexadecimal translation for Tsuneyo's event is "slip" and "hope". The vigenere cipher for Yasu's event is "the walls are closing in".

New outfits can be bought during the puzzle:

Spoiler: Kaori and Nao-chan outfits

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Picture messages are from Molly and Noriko:

Spoiler: messages

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Now that that's settled, let's get into the puzzle. So, this is one of the worst puzzles in LiL depending on how you'll play it. I'm going to give you the easiest possible path through it, but that requires URM (for the money). So install that if you don't have it already, or use your own choice of changing save game variables in renpy.

You just need to cheat for the money, you can follow my walkthrough for the "answers".

Spoiler: SENSEI QUEST

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[crustlord12]

While this was very interesting, as always, I feel like some of what's been theorized could mainly be explained by the difference in interpretation as to the events presented in 0.45 being real or not. I take them as mostly, if not all, real. So this post will attempt to take that approach to some of the "problems" araumaug has pointed out. For the minor stuff, it could simply be extrapolated from what I'll present.

Spoiler: Pictures and Diaries

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Spoiler: Nodoka's sacrifice and Ami's backstory

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Spoiler: Maya didn't exist

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At the moment it's simply impossible to say whether this interpretation or aramaug's is the correct one. I thought however that it was important to point out that a lot of the issues raised by his interpretation depend on not taking these into account. Especially the notion that these are corrupted memories, instead of actual moments from other timelines. I favor the second interpretation.

To me, the fact that our Nodoka is there, that what we are presented explains so much of our Ami behavior throughout the whole game, that Selebus has rarely presented lore that was untrue (Kyoto might have been the first, if it even is at that), and the sheer amount of time we spent on these revelations to just be misdirection are enough for me to assume these are at most true.

Edit: on a minor note, I also thought that when HOPE (with the number three on his body) says "guess who's back" it was Pareidolia. Also, the fact that he shows up as "HOPE the peerless god of light" aka has a namechange is not lost on me. The one thing against them being a trinity is that Wires is attacked by the corruption after HOPE appears. So at point they're likely not the same entity.

New crackpot theory:

Maya is a god because Akira believes in her enough to be one, but doesn't realize he's made her one. He thinks she's just a student caught in this shit as well so resets can affect her because he believes they can.

 

[barglenarglezous]

New crackpot theory:

Maya is a god because Akira believes in her enough to be one, but doesn't realize he's made her one. He thinks she's just a student caught in this shit as well so resets can affect her because he believes they can.

Every version of Sensei that's ever existed has created a Maya god. That's why there are so many Mayas. Moyo and Long Maya are just the Maya-Gods for versions of Akira that had very specific fetishes.

 

[Moonflare]

New crackpot theory:

Maya is a god because Akira believes in her enough to be one, but doesn't realize he's made her one. He thinks she's just a student caught in this shit as well so resets can affect her because he believes they can.

Very closely resembles the plot of "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya", which New Maya dresses as for Halloween.

Every version of Sensei that's ever existed has created a Maya god. That's why there are so many Mayas. Moyo and Long Maya are just the Maya-Gods for versions of Akira that had very specific fetishes.

I like this, but this would also mean that Maya Prime was the only Maya not created by Akira - as Long Maya calls her not of the clockwork, and rather an accident. It would also mean that Maya Prime was one of the more recent Mayas, as her being an accident would mean that there was a base of regular created Mayas prior.

 

[Jorge88]

With all this talk about Maya not being real, can someone please try to explain AmIOkay, YouDidIt and Moyo to me? Please, pretend i'm retarded while explaining, 'cause i might be.
I always thought that the 3 of them were just Akira's psychosis acting up, but since they do interect with other characters...

 

[Moonflare]

With all this talk about Maya not being real, can someone please try to explain AmIOkay, YouDidIt and Moyo to me? Please, pretend i'm retarded while explaining, 'cause i might be.
I always thought that the 3 of them were just Akira's psychosis acting up, but since they do interect with other characters...

YouDidIt, also known as Long Maya and Moyo are children of the clockwork. They work as freelancers for various gods (but often for HOPE), being mainly in charge of the Children Show. They have been around for thousands of years in that role. And have shown the capacity to summon countless other Mayas for Akira to have sex with.

AmIOkay is still an enigma to this day, it is possible she's also a child of clockwork, but it has never been stated as such. She's at the very least a different entity from Maya Prime, as they interact inside the replica of heaven. It has been theorized that she's the original Maya. And she makes various appearances throughout the game, heavily in the first chapter, including her iconic calling Akira by Sekai, then asking if Akira has already figured out the paradox prior to his encounter with Himawari in the Children Show, and more recently in the replica of heaven while talking to Noriko.

To properly understand them is important to understand Maya. As it stands, it has been suggested (by the game) that Maya didn't exist before the cycles. It has also been suggested that Ami was the pair to Akira initially, and at some point Maya appeared and took her place.

Leaving that possibility, if we talked about the state of things prior to last update, it was theorized that Akira conjured Maya into being by stealing a color. That is why Kaori cannot see her, why she can't remember her parents, why Tsuneyo suggests her memories are fake, why Pareidolia alerts Akira to the fact Maya should never have been there to begin with, why New Maya despairs at not having a function in Akira's life anymore (as it is needed for a god to be), and it would fit with Akira being able to fish a forgotten god from the bottom of the well (he does so with Pareidolia), so in this case he would have fished a stray (god and also the idea of a cat) which is Maya.

It's also suggested by LongMaya, Moyo and AmIOkay's overall treatment of Maya Prime that she's not as special as she makes it seem. Ami certainly makes that painfully clear during last update. So Maya, our Maya, is something that ought not to exist, while LongMaya, Moyo and possibly AmIOkay are things that are meant to (serving a function within the cycles).

Edit: I'd like to see if Kaori is able to see NewMaya, as it would clear up a few things on that front as well.

 

[KiIdar]

Any1 got a 100% save? I missed a couple of events and I don't wanna play from the start

 

[Detective Dc345]

New crackpot theory:

Maya is a god because Akira believes in her enough to be one, but doesn't realize he's made her one. He thinks she's just a student caught in this shit as well so resets can affect her because he believes they can.

I'm alot more concerned considering the god he manifested using the power of his mind manifested as a wizard

 

[Moonflare]

I'm alot more concerned considering the god he manifested using the power of his mind manifested as a wizard

After playing cosycafe, I'm pretty sure if I manifested a god I'd ask for Selebus to bring her over from japan for me.

Spoiler: Where is Maya/Yumi doing petplay, Selebus?

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A catgirl, I'd manifest a catgirl.

 

[DeanNoriko]

I'm alot more concerned considering the god he manifested using the power of his mind manifested as a wizard

Depressed Akira after Sekai dies: God, I sure wish I had a cute loli gf that would cheer me up right about now.
God, the wishing well or idk what: Say no more fam.

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[TBone9]

Yeah who hasn't heard of me and my enormous visual novel that's now 2.7 million words?

Everyone knows that all the girls love your enormous... visual novel.

 

[Budoop]

Obligatory fuck Otoha comment.
This one is really starting to get me heated, I hope Chika beats her ass soon.

 

[DeanNoriko]

Obligatory fuck Otoha comment.
This one is really starting to get me heated, I hope Chika beats her ass soon.

I genuinely kind of forgot Otoha even existed. Same with Osako if she didn't become hot recently, which is still on my mind.

There's gonna be two Otoha events though in the next update. I wonder what Selly has in store for us in terms of character development for Otoha. Especially now, after she broke up with Rin and Niki now being securely in Akira's sphere, she seems kind of out of everyone's story arcs.

Maybe the new development with Nodoka apparently getting the Akira treatment, aka forcing her to stop obsessing about her research and maybe just dialing her down in general, might also have a trickle down effect on her and her neurotic tendencies.
And if we're really lucky, there's gonna be Otoha butt stuff. Oh I wish...

 

[Moonflare]

I genuinely kind of forgot Otoha even existed. Same with Osako if she didn't become hot recently, which is still on my mind.

There's gonna be two Otoha events though in the next update. I wonder what Selly has in store for us in terms of character development for Otoha. Especially now, after she broke up with Rin and Niki now being securely in Akira's sphere, she seems kind of out of everyone's story arcs.

Maybe the new development with Nodoka apparently getting the Akira treatment, aka forcing her to stop obsessing about her research and maybe just dialing her down in general, might also have a trickle down effect on her and her neurotic tendencies.
And if we're really lucky, there's gonna be Otoha butt stuff. Oh I wish...

Otoha literally went from assaulting Niki to flirting with Maya, so I'm waiting for her to start getting into Sekai - cause all she does is apparently going after people that have been Akira's girlfriends.

I echo the sentiment of not caring at all about her character or arc (she doesn't even have one). At most I can see something coming of her being into wizards or something related to Nodoka, cause if I have to deal with yet another two events dealing with her being into Niki, so help me god.

 

[DeSkel15]

So, Random Dark Humor Time:

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And:

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Sana probably would have enjoyed watching last update, just saying.
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Also, not sure if this has already been mentioned, but for those who may not have noticed, Nao-chan seemed to show up behind Alt Maya Prime in Ayane's Chapter 4 'Soliloquy (Wearing Someone Else's Clothes)' Event :

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And probably in the background of Makoto's TSS:

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Whatcha doing, Nao-chan? Or should I say [TEMPLATE9]?

 

[Apollo259]

New crackpot theory:

Maya is a god because Akira believes in her enough to be one, but doesn't realize he's made her one. He thinks she's just a student caught in this shit as well so resets can affect her because he believes they can.

You know what, I have more crack to add to that pot. Maybe Akira actually turned Maya prime into that white cat we have been seeing around the place a fair bit now since the previous reset.

Spoiler: Stray white cat.

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With how much he seemed to associate her with a stray cat perhaps her becoming the stray white cat is not so insane.

Spoiler: I WANT TO

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Spoiler: PET THE CAT

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Spoiler: pet

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Spoiler: the

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Spoiler: cat

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Spoiler: not this one

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Spoiler: NOT THIS ONE.

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[SlidingSubject]

Nao-chan seemed to show up behind Alt Maya Prime in Ayane's Chapter 4 'Soliloquy (Wearing Someone Else's Clothes)' Event

NGL, even though you said it was Nao-chan, I thought I was looking at Tsuneyo.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Everyone knows that all the girls love your enormous... visual novel.

We only like Sel for his "enormous word count" and nothing else. After he caught feelings he tried to get the game taken off of here. We tried to tell him we were only playing Lessons in Love for the word count and nothing else.

 

[DeSkel15]

NGL, even though you said it was Nao-chan, I thought I was looking at Tsuneyo.

Nao-chan and Tsuneyo look quite different from the back:

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Nao-chan's hair is more like Yumi's. Longer and a lighter shade:

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But they look Wizard height:

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And Yumi's red is typically hard to miss.

 

[sleeplessrudolph]

This was fantastic and horrified. Loved the writings and characters.