Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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Tech question: is it possible to have two separate instances of this game installed simultaneously?

Yes. I have a v0.46 for normal use, a v0.28 for care package, and a v0.23p2 for pre-rework content. My saves made across all three copies still live and my laptop has not burst into flames yet.

Spoiler: Question about gods

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I though replaying the game would answer the questions i had, not create new ones.

From the narrator in events Rewrite, There is Nothing, and Word of the Day, it is established that gods from first to third are Nozomu, Wires, and Pareidolia (this name was disclosed much later by the god itself). The narrator that tells the setting story of gods in these events does not use any out-of-ordinary textual pattern.

As for the instances of a god imitating another god, you'll get different answers from different folks here. At the bare minimum, there are two instances that I can remember: one is Pareidolia literally telling you about it breaking out of its textual pattern in the beginning of Ch4 (so not really imitating, but you get the idea), and the other one appears in Yasu's An Apple Each Day; according to shifts in textual patterns, third god snatched control, first god snatched it back, then disguised himself as the second god. Reason for this is unknown.

 

[Apollo259]

Since there is nothing interesting really going on here right now, here's a question to spark a discussion that could get heated.

From the MAIN cast (the 20 classroom girls only), which character is the worst written one.

In my opinion it's Uta

I would say Tsuneyo or Yasu. I just feel like their gimmicks leave them kind of stunted as characters. A particular issue being they just slip out of the gimmick at will whenever they need to have a serious moment, or quadrupole down on it whenever comic relief is called for. Although I am open to the argument that the fact they they have a decent amount of character development despite that might actually make it good writing. I'm not sure though.

 

[SlidingSubject]

I would say Tsuneyo or Yasu. I just feel like their gimmicks leave them kind of stunted as characters. A particular issue being they just slip out of the gimmick at will whenever they need to have a serious moment, or quadrupole down on it whenever comic relief is called for. Although I am open to the argument that the fact they they have a decent amount of character development despite that might actually make it good writing. I'm not sure though.

At its core, the main cast are just tropes brought to life. I do think the development means it's good writing, because goddamn, even though Miku's face when she broke down on that one event did look like the Willem Dafoe meme, it didn't stop making me feel for her.

 

[jclark1337]

Okay that's it for now. Ended up being 3 parts but oh well

Spoiler: CH4 0.37 - 0.40 reactions PART 3

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[Pedro4545454]

If you could erase your memories of this game but also leave yourself a note, what would you tell yourself? I might tell myself to stay away but I doubt I would listen to me.

"Play this game when you have free time."
"Additional note: Try not to fall in love with Maya, believe me, once you do it is a path of no return and you will suffer a lot."

I doubt I would listen to myself, I would definitely do everything I did in the first playthrough and then change it in the replay and then do the green path only in the third playthrough like I did in this one.

 

[Apollo259]

At its core, the main cast are just tropes brought to life. I do think the development means it's good writing, because goddamn, even though Miku's face when she broke down on that one event did look like the Willem Dafoe meme, it didn't stop making me feel for her.

Miku is kind of an example of the opposite of what I mean when I say Tsuneyo or Yasu might be the worst written. Just off the top of my head You also have Rin as another example of the opposite. Rin and Miku have very silly comic relief moments and also very serious ones. But with them it never feels like a switch is being thrown and toggling them between silly and serious mode. Their silly and serious moments just feel like parts of wholistic characters. Where as to me anyway, Tsuneyo or Yasu feel more like they are just being toggled between modes to fit the scene Selebus is writing. And sure, you can say the same about Rin or Miku at the end of the day, because realistically the same thing is done with them. But the difference is with them I never feel that toggle happening.

Tsuneyo probably has it happen more often and more noticeably than Yasu to be honest. Sometimes She will go from knowing absolutely nothing about anything to then having a very serious deep conversations with Akira. You can probably say it has something to do with her connection to Wires, being written this way to emphasise that connection and how out of place she is. But at this stage to me it still just makes her character feel more artificial and disjointed. But maybe that is the intention with her, in which case perhaps it is actually good writing as it has achieved its desired effect.

 

[VoidExile]

Spoiler: That's a lot of grinding. I don't think the mc can pull this of either

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[VoidExile]

Day 45 character count 24292(longest yet).

Spoiler: Day 601-602, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Spoiler: Tierlist

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[SlidingSubject]

But maybe that is the intention with her, in which case perhaps it is actually good writing as it has achieved its desired effect.

I kinda agree and disagree with you, mostly because of Yasu. Both of them have been given characterization, it's just that Tsuneyo's was done early on in the Halloween parties, and Yasu's was done in pieces starting on her solo karaoke event and all over the rest of the third chapter. Tsuneyo's on the other hand has been used as a contrast since both can be said to be priestesses who are sometimes vessels.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Spoiler: Tierlist

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I'm happy to see that Maya has finally climbed to the top of the list.

 

[SlidingSubject]

Day 601-602, some reactions, thoughts and questions

Spoiler

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[alteros]

Kudos to the end of Times New Roman into Paper City for actually getting me to shed a tear. There are plenty of games that have made my eyes get a bit watery but I think this is the first time I've actually cried even if it's just a little. It was so good it almost makes me wish I figured out Times New Roman legitimately. I got as far as I could on my own but there's only so much I can remember.

 

[shmurfer]

I'm still not sure what I feel about Sara dressing like a very pink and vibrant idol. That shade of pink hurts my eyes a bit.

She's likely the first person Sensei called to prove Niki is his ex. She hella jelly.

Why is Tsuneyo's comedy so good!?

Fuck you Tsuneyo! Actual piece of shit

The cycle of LiL strikes again!

Kudos to the end of Times New Roman into Paper City for actually getting me to shed a tear. There are plenty of games that have made my eyes get a bit watery but I think this is the first time I've actually cried even if it's just a little. It was so good it almost makes me wish I figured out Times New Roman legitimately. I got as far as I could on my own but there's only so much I can remember.

 

[Apollo259]

I kinda agree and disagree with you, mostly because of Yasu. Both of them have been given characterization, it's just that Tsuneyo's was done early on in the Halloween parties, and Yasu's was done in pieces starting on her solo karaoke event and all over the rest of the third chapter. Tsuneyo's on the other hand has been used as a contrast since both can be said to be priestesses who are sometimes vessels.

I'm only really saying that out of the main girls they are the weakest characters at this point, in my opinion. Not that they are bad or have no characterization. I still like them in their own way. Yasu particularly has grown a lot as a character this chapter. More than I would have expected really.

 

[TempT3334]

Hadn't noticed this before.

Spoiler: Green

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[elricsecret]

I was cooking some theories.
But all of them are missing something in one way or another.

this is until I asked myself one question, then it all started making sense.

Sensei isn't an engineer programmer etc.
Why god/narrator or his subconscious shows itself in computer language while sensei black out?
(errors, users, system, terminals etc.)


here is my new theory, I'm pretty sure this is the real one

Spoiler

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[SlidingSubject]

big spoiler

Spoiler: It's been done

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Even assuming that's the case, I think it's both a weak and hard-to-use plot device that Sel's ego and perfectionism wouldn't allow it. I haven't seen it been done in any way that does it justice, even the one time I kinda liked it (which was in a japanese light novel), it was a clusterfuck of an ending.

Spoiler: 'Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou', or 'Demon King Daimao', or 'Color Wars' ending

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Either Sel will create the greatest clusterfuck known to mankind, or it won't be that.

 

[givemeabeer]

I was cooking some theories.
But all of them are missing something in one way or another.

this is until I asked myself one question, then it all started making sense.

Sensei isn't an engineer programmer etc.
Why god/narrator or his subconscious shows itself in computer language while sensei black out?
(errors, users, system, terminals etc.)


here is my new theory, I'm pretty sure this is the real one

Spoiler

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Without any judgement, but it's kinda a variant of «it was just a dream». Not something we should wish about.
Also, about a sentence you say in your spoiler :
«aren't we all first started playing lesson in love in the first place because we thought this is just a game/hentai simulator with a teacher chasing after anime students?»

In a matter of fact, I don't. I just came here for the story. What I didn't know at that time, was that the story will be so good to make me addict.
And I don't kidding, even with porn I do that. I listen the dialogue and pass the sex scene...

...

Yeah, I know I'm wired differently.

 

[shmurfer]

A computer is definitely involved. Affection points are part of whatever the simulation is, and administrators can award or take them away at will.

 

[elricsecret]

Without any judgement, but it's kinda a variant of «it was just a dream». Not something we should wish about.
Also, about a sentence you say in your spoiler :
«aren't we all first started playing lesson in love in the first place because we thought this is just a game/hentai simulator with a teacher chasing after anime students?»

In a matter of fact, I don't. I just came here for the story. What I didn't know at that time, was that the story will be so good to make me addict.
And I don't kidding, even with porn I do that. I listen the dialogue and pass the sex scene...

...

Yeah, I know I'm wired differently.

yea sure u did yea sure u did.
u come to f95 and decided "oh look that game with predator mc might have really good story" and downloaded it.
yea sure u did.
I mean we all stayed for story since lewd content is crap.
but I wouldnt say we come for story in the first place.
and this is just an anime game with anime girls. u dont have to act like u are a saint. this isn't reddit.

and what selebus denied about dream ending was, people were saying "sensei was in a coma and this is all a dream" and selebus was like, nope that is for lame writers.
my theory has nothing to do with that dunno how u thought they are similar.