Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[fdsasdf_p]

You know, i got wondering, if Sekai didn't die, what are the chances she might've egged Akira on to do things with Ami? She was 7, so it'd be later than i'd expect things to start if that's what she wanted, she had the hots for Akira when he was a baby and had planned to molest him all along, but i dunno, despite her love for her daughter she was an incredibly sick and evil person so if she even remotely liked the idea i have no doubt she'd have gone down that path... Ami did try to take care of Akira with sex when she first started living with him, but he was too comatose to accept her 'offer', at least if i read that one scene properly...

If Ami’s feeling still “organically” developed in absence of Sekai's death, then yea I can see Sekai encouraging a continuation of her own predatory and incestuous behaviors. The two people she loves the most love each other in the most forbidden form she so zealously preached? Excellent.


As for that scene of attempting to take care of Akira with sex, I’ve always felt that Ami going directly to offering sex is because she might’ve seen it when Sekai and Akira were at it. By associating how they visually loved each other with how devoid of happiness Akira was after Sekai’s death, she might’ve offered herself by trying to replicate what she thought she knew that can be of help just like the redhead before her, without necessarily understanding what it meant.

Mostly my last (poorly written) post was just somewhat baseless speculation that before she died Sekai might have had some knowledge about whatever is going on with the world.

It’s honestly quite possible. Not only because there apparently is an afterlife for Sekai to suspiciously "have things to do" in the never-ending pool of darkness, but also because the other alternative to interpret her finally believing in god toward the end as "Sekai became a firm believer of some mainstream religions before passing away" is just so laaaame when we already have a shit ton of weird ass divine beings hanging around constantly.

 

[Apollo259]

Also just replayed "Il Cervo" Kaori event. I did not notice the first time because of the deep fried image, but at the end of the event it is Sekai talking through Kaori (red eyes). With that in mind and the context of the Gabriele D Annunzio poem "Il Cervo" and the previous dear parts story. the event starts to make a lot more sense.

Spoiler: Red eye Kaori again.

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A rough outline of the last part of the event.(formatting might suck sorry)

-After Ami says she would like to bring the moon back Sekai starts talking through Kaori (and Ami is able to hear her).
-She then talks a bit about the nature of the world. (Im not sure yet what she means by "I have always been a dear". If she is referring to the themes of the poem or the previous dear parts story basically).
-Then she says "But together, we make the perfect nuclear family".(You could possibly take that as confirmation from Sekai of the Ami is Akira's daughter theory).
-"Together we are Il Cervo."(Referring to the poem probably. It would fit somewhat as a metaphor for Akira's current relationship with Sekai. The themes of the poem summarised are basically: hunter and dear, predator and prey, pursuit and desire, memory and melancholy, futility.)

Anyway make of that what you will. I'm still thinning about it in the context of the rest of the event. (Sorry if someone already posted this I kind of skim read the last 20 or so pages of the thread and might have missed it.)

 

[DeSkel15]

Does anyone remember if there is any information about the religion/god that Ami thinks Sekai believed in. Is it possible it might have not been a traditional religion we would think of and might have actually been something connected to all the strange stuff/god(s) we are familiar with in game.

I think Akira said at some point that Sekai did not believe in god? But was it just a line that said something like: Sekai, while not believing in them, still went along with Japanese religious traditions for Ami's sake. (I might be wrong, I don't really remember.) If he did say something like that It does still leave room for her to have believed in or known something about whatever strange stuff is going on now.

We also know from the last update that whatever Yasu believes in was last referenced in text 200 years ago. I would not be surprised if Sekai somehow knew something about this as well.

Ami claims Sekai pretended to be religious around her because it was the "right" thing to do:

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But Sekai never actually believed in god.

Sekai seemed to be an atheist who "knew Heaven was a joke" and joked about Angels eating hands and going to Hell:

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Still, what stood out to me about that scene is that she actually thought to offer herself up... can't really imagine an ungroomed 7 year old even thinking of that, even if she was cleaning up his cum, she shouldn't have really understood wtf it was he was doing, just some weird thing he seemed to need to do.

Well, even being around that kind of environment is probably enough to groom someone. Sensei was probably also watching porn and stuff.

It's also not like there's an actual age required to learn about sex. (I already knew a little at like 5 if I recall correctly)

6/7 year old Noriko was apparently talking about blowjobs with other girls at school:

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So, I wouldn't be surprised if Ami already had an idea of what might make Sensei "happier".

Still, it seemed to just be a misunderstanding on her part:

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[derekthered56]

Can I somehow call Wakana when she is in hospital?

Sorry, you're not allowed to act like a decent human being in this game.

 

[Xiondingens]

Sorry, you're not allowed to act like a decent human being in this game.

Decent? I wanted to call her to make fun of the fact that she neither can get her class to end the school-year nor end her life.

It would have been hilarious when she would get how those things are connected.

 

[DeSkel15]

Also just replayed "Il Cervo" Kaori event. I did not notice the first time because of the deep fried image, but at the end of the event it is Sekai talking through Kaori (red eyes). With that in mind and the context of the Gabriele D Annunzio poem "Il Cervo" and the previous dear parts story. the event starts to make a lot more sense.

Spoiler: Red eye Kaori again.

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A rough outline of the last part of the event.(formatting might suck sorry)

-After Ami says she would like to bring the moon back Sekai starts talking through Kaori (and Ami is able to hear her).
-She then talks a bit about the nature of the world. (Im not sure yet what she means by "I have always been a dear". If she is referring to the themes of the poem or the previous dear parts story basically).
-Then she says "But together, we make the perfect nuclear family".(You could possibly take that as confirmation from Sekai of the Ami is Akira's daughter theory).
-"Together we are Il Cervo."(Referring to the poem probably. It would fit somewhat as a metaphor for Akira's current relationship with Sekai. The themes of the poem summarised are basically: hunter and dear, predator and prey, pursuit and desire, memory and melancholy, futility.)

Anyway make of that what you will. I'm still thinning about it in the context of the rest of the event. (Sorry if someone already posted this I kind of skim read the last 20 or so pages of the thread and might have missed it.)

There's a lot last update that I'm kind of saving for later, but the Kaori "deer" stuff was in reference to Ami's story about having deer parts inside and being different than others.

"Il Cervo" also translates to "The Deer".

Basically, Ami's story seemed to be referring to how some people function differently than others, and those people are treated like they have something inhuman in them and that they need to be fixed by having it removed. Kaori and Ami have virtually always been different than others (same with Sekai and Sensei). Kaori also seems to have parts of others (possibly Sekai's organs) in her.

"Il Cervo" and what Kaori seemed to be saying is that they are all "deer". All of them are different, and all of them are prey, being stalked and admired by their hunter. (May also simply be saying they are all a singular deer as in parts of a whole) Together they are perfectly "normal" (nuclear).

"We are helpless and full of beauty" - The Deer/Il Cervo.

At least, that's my take at the moment.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Il Cervo just seemed like a dick worship poem to me, all that thing about long neck, big crown, making people scream at night, all about a dick.

 

[Bingoogus]

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[Nadekai]

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Who is that?
Is that the... kid with alymphocytosis?

 

[thebladeofwar]

So I am playing catch up from years ago. I remember loving this game doing all the decoding by hand, all the freaking amazing lore, and just speculating on just about everything. I stopped around slightly after Yasu was introduced. I am reaching the point where I fell off before and I happen to recall and am experiencing again a severe lack of Maya, as she is my favorite and objectively best and most interesting character. I look at the new hints mod and see she still only has 20 scenes 12 of them I have reached at this point. I understand her underutilization due to her ties to the main plot and point being made that you are now supposed to get more info out of Noriko and Niki, but come on... Futaba has fucking 27 fucking events by comparison...

I reach out to my fellow Maya fans, will I be eating good soon, or should I brace for disappointment due to lack of content?

It's also really weird to me that there are 6 chapters but I am more than halfway through all the scenes. Are the locked chapters not done or are following chapters just filled a lot less? OR is it because I am sort of min maxing with hints and the game expected me to waste time? I guess I should also not the mod seems to only be up to date to the LAST patch, not the newest.

Fuck I missed this game. Its one of the few games I ever threw money at.

 

[Xiondingens]

I reach out to my fellow Maya fans, will I be eating good soon, or should I brace for disappointment due to lack of content?

Well, you will definitely get something to eat when you want maya content. If you will like the seasoning is a different question.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Who is that?
Is that the... kid with alymphocytosis?

It's an aged-up Chinami.

 

[Nadekai]

It's an aged-up Chinami.

How did she survive?!

 

[Xiondingens]

How did she survive?!

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[Kitty Hawk]

Maya is fine.

 

[Bingoogus]

Who is that?
Is that the... kid with alymphocytosis?

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[DeSkel15]

So I am playing catch up from years ago. I remember loving this game doing all the decoding by hand, all the freaking amazing lore, and just speculating on just about everything. I stopped around slightly after Yasu was introduced. I am reaching the point where I fell off before and I happen to recall and am experiencing again a severe lack of Maya, as she is my favorite and objectively best and most interesting character. I look at the new hints mod and see she still only has 20 scenes 12 of them I have reached at this point. I understand her underutilization due to her ties to the main plot and point being made that you are now supposed to get more info out of Noriko and Niki, but come on... Futaba has fucking 27 fucking events by comparison...

I reach out to my fellow Maya fans, will I be eating good soon, or should I brace for disappointment due to lack of content?

It's also really weird to me that there are 6 chapters but I am more than halfway through all the scenes. Are the locked chapters not done or are following chapters just filled a lot less? OR is it because I am sort of min maxing with hints and the game expected me to waste time? I guess I should also not the mod seems to only be up to date to the LAST patch, not the newest.

Fuck I missed this game. Its one of the few games I ever threw money at.

There is supposedly going to be 10 Chapters in total, It's currently on Chapter 4, and if you're currently on Chapter 2 (when Yasu and the Nakayamas are introduced), I think it's fair to say you'll be getting more Maya content rather soon. The game still has a long way to go.

Maya should have around 26 personal Events so far, though. I definitely wouldn't consider her underutilized. Not sure why the mod is missing 6. Futaba should have around 34, now, as well.

 

[thebladeofwar]

There is supposedly going to be 10 Chapters in total, It's currently on Chapter 4, and if you're currently on Chapter 2 (when Yasu and the Nakayamas are introduced), I think it's fair to say you'll be getting more Maya content rather soon. The game still has a long way to go.

Maya should have around 26 personal Events so far, though. I definitely wouldn't consider her underutilized. Not sure why the mod is missing 6. Futaba should have around 34, now, as well.

Awesome! Thanks for the info. I probably shouldn't say underutilized. Gives it a bad taste. What I mean was, and I could be 100% wrong with this as the lore to this game is deeper than a dead wire god, but I would assume Maya content would be intentionally the most spaced out or sparse due to it intertwining heavily with the main plotline.

 

[Moonflare]

How did she survive?!

She also survives in one of the care-packages where she becomes a businesswoman that complains about how Akira doesn't bone her more frequently behind his wife's (Chika) back. Then goes on to bone him while talking to Chika on the cellphone.

Also not canon. But if it's any indication, she might have an equal if not greater sex drive than Chika.

 

[Moonflare]

Awesome! Thanks for the info. I probably shouldn't say underutilized. Gives it a bad taste. What I mean was, and I could be 100% wrong with this as the lore to this game is deeper than a dead wire god, but I would assume Maya content would be intentionally the most spaced out or sparse due to it intertwining heavily with the main plotline.

There are answers to that in the current build. But I would agree that it seems odd that Sensei doesn't talk to her WAY more in the first chapters given that she seems to hold all the answers to his situation by that point.