unless i get lore out of it they go thru one ear and out the other
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I'm free of my loop of sing and song! My sanity return!
After a week of hell, I'm happy to hear the beautiful sound of... silence.
Anyway, since the game's update is near, and it contain some content about Nao, what do y'all think she is? And what's her purpose?
Is it to protect Sensei? To check on him? To haunt him? Is she a demon?
Maybe I'll elaborate on my theory later, I still have school work to do, so... I let open that theory! Feel free to enhance, discuss or launching threats to it!
After a week of hell, I'm happy to hear the beautiful sound of... silence.
Anyway, since the game's update is near, and it contain some content about Nao, what do y'all think she is? And what's her purpose?
Is it to protect Sensei? To check on him? To haunt him? Is she a demon?
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Maybe I'll elaborate on my theory later, I still have school work to do, so... I let open that theory! Feel free to enhance, discuss or launching threats to it!
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I don't find that too surprising, I think the events the poems are in tend to be what's worth discussing since they're more informing, especially with how short the poems usually are - with some exceptions like 'Good Boy', which was the only bit of information we had for a long time on Sensei's relationship with his brother. I also think Sel tries too hard sometimes to make them artsy and substantive which winds up achieving the opposite, I imagine there's quite a few I can't even remember because I just glaze over them and I'm sure plenty of people here are the same lol
Despite that though yeah, generally speaking I actually like them a lot. The ones I really enjoy tend to be the ones that aren't really substantive or worth discussing, though - like the one through 'Cardinal' (the event where Makoto and Sensei finally kiss) or at the start of 'Transference' (Sensei's first trip to see Yasu at the Church). There's not really much to say about them; they're just simple, relevant poems that work well with the events they're in.
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The only poem I've understood
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I have only liked one poem enough for it to stick, which I'll recite from memory:
"Spiderwebs. A calendar. The ones you keep inside.
We're done. We're doomed. We're dying. The well has nearly dried."
Once I could quote it all but alas...
"Spiderwebs. A calendar. The ones you keep inside.
We're done. We're doomed. We're dying. The well has nearly dried."
Once I could quote it all but alas...
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The poems Sel write are actually pretty good. But discussing poetry, let alone poetry in LIL would probably create an endless feedback loop of misconstrued interpretations. But here's some bomb ass poetry for the eventual FF poetry contest
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Roses are Red
When are we going to plap Touka
When are we going to plap Touka
Detective Dc345
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Violets are blue, we have no fucking clue.
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Maybe this would be Sensei when he’s finally being prosecuted?
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Yeah Redbirds Bleed and Blue Ones Die, I loved that one too. Reminder that all of the poetry in the game is logged on the wiki:
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One of my favorites is this one
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For me the poem evokes the simple joys of childhood, ones that you latch onto to distract you from the darkness that lurked in your life that you knew existed at the time but you couldn't quite yet understand or come to terms with.
Imo poetry is more about making you feel things rather than telling a story. It's supposed to be vague enough for you to be able to take bits and pieces of it that you can resonate with.
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Yes. I wouldn't want to read a full volume of his poetry or anything, but it's enjoyable in the game as an occasional departure from prose. He has a talent for imagery, and the way he uses fractured structure to mirror the author's mental state is fun.
Only a true master of the English language is capable of writing lines like this:
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I quite like "Il Cervo", what exactly do you object to in it? I assume it's more than just that it "didn't happen" in a physical sense, since the same thing could be said about the happy events, reset events, dream sequences, or anything else that doesn't take place in the "real" Kumon-mi. Hell, the whole game is about (presumably) real people interacting in an artificial world; "Il Cervo" is just a microcosm of that, a dream inside a dream if you will (with dream logic bumped up to 11).
One of the game's recurring themes is that objective reality (if such a thing even exists) is less important than people's perception of it. "Il Cervo" may not have happened in the physical world, but that doesn't make the experience any less real or its ideas any less relevant (and that's what the commentary was driving at, at least as I understood it). It still shows a shared mental experience, it still reveals things about the characters' psyches, it still works as a examination of themes like the anxieties of parenthood and the tension between belonging and conformity.
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His? Not really. He's got a talent for poema but it's still banal compare to those he quoted. Every time I sense the poem he showed might be out of his ability and thus a reference, I never went wrong. He's better at prose though.
Back to poems, my favourite poem in the game was a stanza From Blossoms from its eponymous event Impossible Blossoms. It's first event of Futaba and despite that nothing remarkable occured and even the way Sel asked players to interpret the stanza was, forgive me, redolent of stupidity, I somehow realized the feeling I had when I peruse this brief quote was exactly the same as that of (good parts of) LiL. First simply strange and annoyingly confused, then delighted for some reason unknown, at last inexplicitly melancholic and inexplicably empty.
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I find it obnoxious.
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I have lost faith that spending time thinking about what Selebus is trying to convey is going to better my experience, rather, ignoring some amount of what he says is currently doing that instead. None of this, while wordy, should come at any surprise though, I've been vocal on how I've been rather disappointed with LiL lately.
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TheGoodPastor
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I am replaying the game after a long break. Just got back to
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Sel is clearly a skilled writer, but he's caught up in awful modern artistic philosophies. Nihilism is "smart", everything must be a deconstruction, happy endings are just the worst thing you can do, everything must be both oozing meaning yet also simultaneously meaningless, the artist must hate and disrespect his audience, and any complaints, especially about being pretentious are just small minded plebeians.
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