TheGoodPastor

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Btw, will raising Kirin's lusts to 15 before Ayane's "what a wonderfull world" and Ami's lusts to 15 before Ayane's "before the sun come up" gonna affect Ayane, make her sad or anything? I seriously dont want to go wrong and have to replay again...
No, there's lust requirements to trigger certain events but there's no point where raising one person's lust/affection requirement before another's will have any impact on dialogue or cause you to miss events. Just make sure you have the lust requirement and you're fine

For the latter I assume you mean the event after 'Before the sun comes up' though because it's the event afterwards, 'Out with the old', that has a lust requirement (20 for Ayane)
 
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Not sure if this has been said but Sara may commit suicide in the next update, Molly's line about that being the last thing Sana ever said to her could have been foreshadowing. Just a fucked up prediction, I hope i'm wrong. If it does happen I'm sure it will be "fixed" in a reset.
 

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Not sure if this has been said but Sara may commit suicide in the next update, Molly's line about that being the last thing Sana ever said to her could have been foreshadowing. Just a fucked up prediction, I hope i'm wrong. If it does happen I'm sure it will be "fixed" in a reset.
Oh shit.
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Not sure if this has been said but Sara may commit suicide in the next update, Molly's line about that being the last thing Sana ever said to her could have been foreshadowing. Just a fucked up prediction, I hope i'm wrong. If it does happen I'm sure it will be "fixed" in a reset.
Whole game especially chapter 4 has a theme of "not ending it because of others." Sensei, Futaba, Makoto, probably Wakana.

All these characters has someone for them to not commit suicide
And i guess that person for Sara was Sana.
But after last update, does she think Sana is too far gone?
I don't think so, but she will still do something drastic.
 

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All these characters has someone for them to not commit suicide
And i guess that person for Sara was Sana.
But after last update, does she think Sana is too far gone?
I don't think so, but she will still do something drastic.
I highly doubt it.

1) Sara had blackouts at Sana's age
2) Sara knows Akira has blackouts
3) Sara knows that Sana was starting to see things, which would be a precursor to blackouts
4) She has acknowledged that she knew she was fighting with Sana for Akira's affection, and that Sana sleeping with her teacher was in her blood.

Putting all that together, she knew that an Akira/Sana hookup was an inevitability, and the only question is whether it would be one of them losing control and forcing the issue due to blackout or it being consensual -- and the video intro makes it clear that Sana consented (but it's not clear to Sara that Akira ISN'T blacked out).

It's an event she knew was going to happen, but hoped it wouldn't. She'll be heartbroken, but not suicidal.
 

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Btw, will raising Kirin's lusts to 15 before Ayane's "what a wonderfull world" and Ami's lusts to 15 before Ayane's "before the sun come up" gonna affect Ayane, make her sad or anything? I seriously dont want to go wrong and have to replay again...
You're gonna have to make a choice at some point, whether you want to see every event or minimize apparent suffering.

And I say apparent suffering because I'm a green path enthusiast, I think there's enough evidence in the game to show that people will suffer for a while with the green path exclusive suffering, but come out better for it eventually.

You could commit to a red path playthrough, but I recommend at some point replaying the game and committing to green path, and in the interests of saving time that's why I recommend just doing green path.

Not sure if this has been said but Sara may commit suicide in the next update, Molly's line about that being the last thing Sana ever said to her could have been foreshadowing. Just a fucked up prediction, I hope i'm wrong. If it does happen I'm sure it will be "fixed" in a reset.
If others have said it before me, it isn't a common sentiment. I don't think she's gonna succeed, grimly because she has too many events. But I think she's gonna try, and Sana's gonna catch her. It's the kind of wake up call she needs.
 
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I highly doubt it.

1) Sara had blackouts at Sana's age
2) Sara knows Akira has blackouts
3) Sara knows that Sana was starting to see things, which would be a precursor to blackouts
4) She has acknowledged that she knew she was fighting with Sana for Akira's affection, and that Sana sleeping with her teacher was in her blood.

Putting all that together, she knew that an Akira/Sana hookup was an inevitability, and the only question is whether it would be one of them losing control and forcing the issue due to blackout or it being consensual -- and the video intro makes it clear that Sana consented (but it's not clear to Sara that Akira ISN'T blacked out).

It's an event she knew was going to happen, but hoped it wouldn't. She'll be heartbroken, but not suicidal.
I dunno, I feel like there's a difference between cracking half-hearted jokes about it and confronting the reality of the situation.

Especially when the reality of the situation involves your daughter semi-publicly forcing you to actually watch her fuck the man you love as she tries to emotionally coerce you into an incestuous throuple whilst incidentally outing your best friend as being a sexual predator herself.

I don't see the blackout excuse coming into play here either - Sensei might not have known about the possibility of Sara and Haruka showing up but the fact that the setup exists at all would obviously imply that the sex was pre-planned.
 

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She'll be heartbroken, but not suicidal.
I have been mostly silent but this is one point I actually thought interesting about the update. Not the whole event, but rather the aftermath, the moment that Molly raises the point of Sana being completely out of touch with reality, and downright cruel.
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Final point is that, now more than ever, nothing can come out of it - because the differences between red and green paths have never been greater than this. The additional Sara event next update (through the one less Ami event) probably has been modified to address this.
 
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I think this update would be fine when played alongside the previous and subsequent updates. But 2 months on either side of it probably bias people more towards taking issue with the bridging/filler/whatever you want to call it content, that you probably would not really notice in a full playthrough. There was a reasonable amount of heavy stuff in the previous update that probably needed a bit of space before diving back in to whatever's coming next. Thus the boring first half of the dorm wars. But then again there is the grinding Imani lust that spaces it out which is kind of a nuisance.
That's its biggest problem. Before the fanfest rearrangement, it was going to be an update sandwiched in between two updates and this month long break would have happened after 0.50 which we'd have enjoyed right now. I really want to see 0.50, and then the couple of updates after it if I can find where the events that used to be in its changelog got moved to because I think there will be some relevant insights.

My whole Noriko lust events in 0.50 prediction is mostly fueled by the old changelogs. There were 3 Niki events and 2 Noriko events in the old 0.49, and 2 noriko events in old 0.50 and 2 animations. Combine that with the coming confrontation that Niki believes Ami about Akira sleeping around with the girls in 0.46, tested with Sana and Molly's invite events in 0.47, and the fact the joke that Noriko never gets sex is getting old, and I think it's prime time that Noriko starts having lust grinding.
The method I came up with started mostly as a thought experiment that Moonflare suggested, that seemed to line up with the changelogs after a while. (After the confrontation, Niki asks if Noriko has had any yet, and when Akira says no, Niki makes it happen)

And now that we've had 0.49, the almost joke I made about Maya lust grinding in 0.50 seems very plausible, like more ingame evidence for it than Noriko. Add in how poetic it'd be for the two girls who would normally seem impossible to start getting lust grinding to get it at the same time, even keeping their rivalry going. And this time Noriko has the advantage with invite over lust grinding, instead of Maya probably getting a dorm scene instead and 2 lust per go, it just seems right.

If Maya happens, I hope they clear the shrine jumpscare. Either say she doesn't hang out there anymore, or if she does just let him hang out with her too.

But for all of those dreams, 0.49 had its redeeming guts ripped out. Even the Io, Rin and Imani events that seemingly replaced it look like they were always going to be added in the end, just being reassigned from generic main events to character events.

I do wonder if the mechanical structure of this chapter will get reworked at some point in the future. It has been a bit all over the place with bugs and other such things. And I feel like there are things you could stumble over in a normal playthrough that end-up breaking your progression. But maybe they have already been patched, I have not replayed so would not really know.
Something much more lighthearted yay. There's been a bunch of bugs that have been seemlessly fixed with Sel's autopatch method. 0.46 had the Tsukasa grooming flags misapplied, and fixed with 0.47. Though people who didn't groom her but played the update on time have to remember that Tsukasa didn't witness the sex, nor did they witness the apartment event afterward with Chinami and Chika.

Fun fact, that's how you get Sana's number in your phone. View her photo, and then witness the main menu where the patch checks if you've seen that photo, then silently give you Sana's number.

Lot of people didn't grind up Imani lust after I told them to a about a month earlier. That's something to remember.


I dunno, I feel like there's a difference between cracking half-hearted jokes about it and confronting the reality of the situation.

Especially when the reality of the situation involves your daughter semi-publicly forcing you to actually watch her fuck the man you love as she tries to emotionally coerce you into an incestuous throuple whilst incidentally outing your best friend as being a sexual predator herself.

I don't see the blackout excuse coming into play here either - Sensei might not have known about the possibility of Sara and Haruka showing up but the fact that the setup exists at all would obviously imply that the sex was pre-planned.
I think it's specifically Sana wanting it that's killing Sara right now. I think Sara had resigned herself to Akira fucking Sana in the event where they were preparing to give Yuki an intervention, she wanted him to protect her. But what Sara wasn't ready for is Sana to lie to her, telling her she loved her in the process, and find out Sana was using sex to manipulate Sara, then find out even that manipulation was a lie and she's trying something even more extreme, that Sana's a little sex freak, and that she's already having threesomes / orgies, the kind of shit that will leave her in the dust covered in cum like Sara was.

And to feed into what Akira's been feeling for a few updates now, he's not going to be held to fault by either of them. Maybe Sana will blame him for the suicide attempt and will get shut down in the same way Haruka got shut down when the gravity of cheating got to her.
 

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Ah, I've made to "I Really Want to Stay at Your House" again. Probably the one event that's made me consider dropping Ami route. On the other hand though the event that plays out on Ami route feels more impactful in the long run, definitely better than it just cutting out. Sadly it seems Noriko is fated to suffer for the sake of others.
 

Hungnoxu

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I swear to god every characters in this game r lesbians or sth. Could anybody list current straight girls for me pls.
 

shmurfer

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I swear to god every characters in this game r lesbians or sth. Could anybody list current straight girls for me pls.
Most are Bi, Osako's the only hard lesbian. Assumedly Rika is one too, but she's the kind of girl to say something like "Well it was woodstock" and have a hell of a story.
 

Hungnoxu

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Most are Bi, Osako's the only hard lesbian. Assumedly Rika is one too, but she's the kind of girl to say something like "Well it was woodstock" and have a hell of a story.
So theres no straight one at all? Not even Ayane, Futaba or Maya?
 

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I swear to god every characters in this game r lesbians or sth. Could anybody list current straight girls for me pls.
So theres no straight one at all? Not even Ayane, Futaba or Maya?
Ami, Ayane, Futaba, Makoto, Touka, Tsuneyo, Yuki, and Yumi are straight, or at least claim/suggest they are, from what I recall. Karin as well, probably. Not sure about Miku, Tsubasa, or Yasu.

Not to say that these straight girls don't end up in lesbian encounters, anyway. Whether they consent or not.
 
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What's wrong with lesbians tho
I think it's a generational thing. Growing up, porn magazines was about the best most gen X and Y guys could hope for, seeing naked ladies was hard, seeing two together was double the fun, and we were just happy to get our hands on them. Zoomers and Alpha's grew up with the internet in full working order, soon as they found an interest in boobs they were just there, in multitudes, they never developed the proper degree of gratitude for them cause they were simply too easy to see whenever they wanted and so two chicks was no more impressive. You take that fact and combine it with the far more common fear of getting cucked and it's easy to see how they transfer that insecurity onto lesbians, it's not two chicks having fun, it's cheating, it's getting cucked! How dare they! don't you know i am the amazing penis-haver, they should only be focused on me and my amazing penis and no other penises should exist!
 
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