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I can see that, and agree to an extent, but with Io that's a huuuuugggeee jump of sadness now, happiness later. I cannot logic leap "This will all work out." However, so far, the ramifications I have seen have been nothing but good for the girl. It hasn't really cut content, at least as of as far as I have played.
Don't worry I'm also part of the Stomachache-skip Cope Crew
I don't regret saying skipping Stomachache even after viewing both sides, although there's certainly pros and cons for either one.

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Sorry guys, I have a question.

In 51 update, Tsubasa has implied that Sensei has entered Tsukasa's bedroom in one of the previous party and did something to Tsukasa. I could not recall this event and I was trying to find it out but there is nothing in the Tsukasa's events. Do you know what event is was and where I could find it?
 

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Sorry guys, I have a question.

In 51 update, Tsubasa has implied that Sensei has entered Tsukasa's bedroom in one of the previous party and did something to Tsukasa. I could not recall this event and I was trying to find it out but there is nothing in the Tsukasa's events. Do you know what event is was and where I could find it?
It was in the last Christmas party - it's an Imani event, 'Now & Forever'. He fucks her in Tsukasa's room while Tsukasa watches from hidden in her bed.

That aspect isn't present in the event replay, though.
 

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Just finished the update yesterday, and so here's my little appreciation/analysis of what I saw. Also, as a reminder, don't open these spoilers if you haven't done the last update (0.51).

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That's all from me. I've written a lot... and all in English (I'll applaud myself later) without using a dictionary or Google Translate. A small achievement!
(I lied a little, I've ask an AI to re-read my text, but I've read the result and do the correction manually. So, it's still all from me.)
 

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That really set me off. It feels forced, considering her previous development. She was responsible, protective—maybe motherly with Yasu, but not with Sensei.
But now, she is? The last time she interacted with him was in the dungeon (if I remember correctly), and she didn't sound motherly then (but I'm Belgian; maybe it's different in America). So... yeah, it feels off.
And it's weird because, for other characters, the continuity is solid. With Osako, for example, all her dialogue feels «natural» and was well-written.
I think you're misunderstanding something from the top frame - she's not being literal. Akira referred to her as a mother figure in the past and it was a point of contention for Touka; he then elaborated that he still wanted to pursue a romantic/sexual relationship with her. This has been brought up repeatedly since she found out about it.

Her saying "Perhaps he just needs a mother's help then?" is not her saying she's decided she's going to act like a mother to him, she's just referring to that past event as a subtle, one-sided way of saying "the one he needs is me, I am the one he should be with".

The below frame is not her attempt at acting motherly either, she's merely standing up for him because she cares about him and her mother is treating him like a toy. Arguably calling him "kind" is giving him the benefit of the doubt but doing that is completely consistent with Touka's character.
 
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Somebody needs to get working on that 10 hour analysis of the popular indie game Lessons in Love youtube video
 
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I think you're misunderstanding something from the top frame - she's not being literal. Akira referred to her as a mother figure in the past and it was a point of contention for Touka; he then elaborated that he still wanted to pursue a romantic/sexual relationship with her. This has been brought up repeatedly since she found out about it.

Her saying "Perhaps he just needs a mother's help then?" is not her saying she's decided she's going to act like a mother to him, she's just referring to that past event as a subtle, one-sided way of saying "the one he needs is me, I am the one he should be with".

The below frame is not her attempt at acting motherly either, she's merely standing up for him because she cares about him and her mother is treating him like a toy. Arguably calling him "kind" is giving him the benefit of the doubt but doing that is completely consistent with Touka's character.
When the first picture appear, that's how I understand it too. Then, the second picture (and the whole «tutoring» scene) happen, and it make me doubt it. Maybe I over-interpret it, but that whole scene (from the second picture) give me that feeling.

I don't know... maybe you're right, but it still feel strange when I thought of it. Maybe I should see it again, to be sure.
 
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Eldiran

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Hey i'm new to this game, so i've a couple of question if some kind fellow could answer me.
How much of a harem this game is? Can the MC will have to romance every girl? Because for me Harem don't go well with romance and we have a romance tag so i'm curious.
I don't know what to expect of this game so far but i wanna avoid spoiler if possible so i don't know how to approach this.
I don't mind romancing multiple girl but i will prefer i could choose who and keep that to a minimum. Yeah maybe this game isn't for me or maybe it is i dunno that why i'm asking .

Thanks you in advance : )
 

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Hey i'm new to this game, so i've a couple of question if some kind fellow could answer me.
How much of a harem this game is? Can the MC will have to romance every girl? Because for me Harem don't go well with romance and we have a romance tag so i'm curious.
I don't know what to expect of this game so far but i wanna avoid spoiler if possible so i don't know how to approach this.
I don't mind romancing multiple girl but i will prefer i could choose who and keep that to a minimum. Yeah maybe this game isn't for me or maybe it is i dunno that why i'm asking .

Thanks you in advance : )
Run buddy, don't play this game, once you become invested you'll be stuck here with the rest of us, this isn't a fap game, it's a treatise on how to psychologically torture people... save yourself and run away.
 

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Hey i'm new to this game, so i've a couple of question if some kind fellow could answer me.
How much of a harem this game is? Can the MC will have to romance every girl? Because for me Harem don't go well with romance and we have a romance tag so i'm curious.
I don't know what to expect of this game so far but i wanna avoid spoiler if possible so i don't know how to approach this.
I don't mind romancing multiple girl but i will prefer i could choose who and keep that to a minimum. Yeah maybe this game isn't for me or maybe it is i dunno that why i'm asking .

Thanks you in advance : )
tl;dr MC is forced to "romance" every girl by divine beings. He also loves them all

Look at this game like at an isekai into harem game
 
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Run buddy, don't play this game, once you become invested you'll be stuck here with the rest of us, this isn't a fap game, it's a treatise on how to psychologically torture people... save yourself and run away.
Don't mind that, or at least it depend on what torture we are talking about ^^ . I'm more interested about romance and a good story, but i'm not against a good fap game too.
tl;dr MC is forced to "romance" every girl by divine beings. He also loves them all

Look at this game like at an isekai into harem game
This i mind, because the more people who are involved, the less romance"s" make sense. You can't be 100% involved with someone and many other girls in the same time, you can't divide yourself into many part and be at two different place in the same time.
But hey, i'm not trying to say that this is wrong, obviously if they are 2900 page of messages here, it show that the game must be fun to some of us!
Thanks for the answer, i suppose the game isn't for me but the concept is interesting. I was also intrigued because the game seem very long

PS: the pitch remember me this manga where a guy must have 100 girlfriend. If he don't, according to the goddess of love, they will die. (it's called 100 Kanojo )
 
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TheGoodPastor

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Hey i'm new to this game, so i've a couple of question if some kind fellow could answer me.
How much of a harem this game is? Can the MC will have to romance every girl? Because for me Harem don't go well with romance and we have a romance tag so i'm curious.
I don't know what to expect of this game so far but i wanna avoid spoiler if possible so i don't know how to approach this.
I don't mind romancing multiple girl but i will prefer i could choose who and keep that to a minimum. Yeah maybe this game isn't for me or maybe it is i dunno that why i'm asking .

Thanks you in advance : )
There are 35 girls and he will "romance" all of them, though many girls have not been yet and there are a few you can choose not to romance. There will eventually be "purity routes" for each girl which will be like a retelling of the story wherein the MC is exclusively with that character but we're years away from them being developed and introduced.

As things are the nature of the relationships vary a lot from girl-to-girl - some are more "romantic" than others whilst some are more sexually oriented. Some start off romantically but inevitably get less so; most likely all the relationships in the game will go downhill at some point or another.

This is a very long game (your first playthrough will probably take 150 or so hours) and it's not really a porn game (well, technically it's a porn game but it's not a game to go to if wanking is your goal). There's a lot of disturbing content and the game explores heavy themes like sexual abuse, grooming, that kind of thing. The MC is a sexual predator and the game does not obfuscate that fact. It's an amazing game but if your interest is porn and/or feelgood romance then yeah, it's probably not what you're looking for lol
 
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Eldiran

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There are 35 girls and he will "romance" all of them, though many girls have not been yet and there are a few you can choose not to romance. There will eventually be "purity routes" for each girl which will ostensibly be like a retelling of the story wherein the MC is exclusively with that character but we're years away from them being developed and introduced.

As things are the nature of the relationships vary a lot from girl-to-girl - some are more "romantic" than others whilst some are more sexually oriented. Some start off romantically but inevitably get less so; most likely all the relationships in the game will go downhill at some point or another.

This is a very long game (your first playthrough will probably take 150 or so hours) and it's not really a porn game (well, technically it's a porn game but it's not a game to go to if wanking is your goal). There's a lot of disturbing content and the game explores heavy themes like sexual abuse, grooming, that kind of thing. The MC is a sexual predator and the game does not obfuscate that fact. It's an amazing game but if your interest is just porn/romance/both then yeah, it's probably not what you're looking for lol
I don't mind a bit of drama and a long game, i might even enjoy it. For reference, one of my favourite VN is grisaia, so if you know a thing or two about it, you can understand where i'm from. (if not i can't recommend enough this VN but it's not harem at all ). Seem to me that each girl can have a pretty different tone or ambiance related but i suppose you're forced to stick to it because of that god. I'm a bit curious but at the same time, i know that i don't like harem for two main reason: i don't like to be forced to be with a girl i'm not interested AND more importantly i'm into romance and like i said, romance doesn't go well with harem
Anyways, thanks for the explanation, it confirm what the other have hinted.
 

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(I lied a little, I've ask an AI to re-read my text, but I've read the result and do the correction manually. So, it's still all from me.)
I'm also using an AI to help rewrite my sentences sometimes. But for the last year I'm trying to write everything myself.

I don't mind a bit of drama and a long game, i might even enjoy it.
It's not "a bit of drama" it's a whole pit of drama after drama.
 

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I'm also using an AI to help rewrite my sentences sometimes. But for the last year I'm trying to write everything myself.


It's not "a bit of drama" it's a whole pit of drama after drama.
It's a despair porn or we can hope for a light at the end of the tunnel?
I'm not against drama, like i said one of my favourite VN are grisaia and we have plenty of that. But yeah if it's despair porn, it's too much to me. But what is despair porn and what is not, i guess it depend of the definition each give to that.
 

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It's a despair porn or we can hope for a light at the end of the tunnel?
I'm not against drama, like i said one of my favourite VN are grisaia and we have plenty of that. But yeah if it's despair porn, it's too much to me. But what is despair porn and what is not, i guess it depend of the definition each give to that.
Don't think about this game as A porn. It's a game WITH porn.
 

Eldiran

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Don't think about this game as A porn. It's a game WITH porn.
Yeah i get it but i use "despair porn" more as an expression than at his litteral sense. To me it mean that they are so much drama and despair that you're surrounded by it and you enjoy that very much.
To me this is too much but if we can see a light at the end of the tunnel, it's okay to endure that
Anyways i want to be clear that i understand that porn isn't the main goal here and i'm more than okay with it.
 

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Yeah i get it but i use "despair porn" more as an expression than at his litteral sense. To me it mean that they are so much drama and despair that you're surrounded by it and you enjoy that very much.
To me this is too much but if we can see a light at the end of the tunnel, it's okay to endure that
Anyways i want to be clear that i understand that porn isn't the main goal here and i'm more than okay with it.
Currently this varies from person to person, some have lost hope of a light at the end of the tunnel, others have started to think that there will be that light, man, I recommend you play for 5 hours, There will be two scenes at the beginning that work as a kind of filter for you to understand what the game will be like.
 
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