Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Sel on 0.53 not clicking with the readers

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Spoiler: 0.54

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[TheGoodPastor]

Spoiler: Sel on 0.53 not clicking with the readers

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Probably someone whining about not enough sex lol

 

[steveveve31]

I mean, I didn't think it was a particularly great update, and I didn't care that it didn't have much sex? I didn't have any strong feelings about Himawari before, and now I feel like she's asexual-Nodoka since Sel is terrible at writing smart characters. Ayane was consistent, but she's not a particularly interesting character to me. Sensei continues to just be whatever the story requires him to be at any given time rather than an actual character (apparently all it takes to stop being a predator is to knock up a teenager and run off with her!), and since he intensely does not deserve a happy ending, I wasn't going to be getting emotional about him getting one. Ami continues to suck, it's the same character that went catatonic from accidentally cutting Sensei who can now just be totally blunt and open about how she'll kill him apparently.

I didn't hate it as much as that probably makes it sound, but yeah I dunno, it was pretty much more of the chapter 3-4 slop to me.

e: whoops meant asexual-Noriko

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Spoiler: Rin stamp of approval

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[Moonflare]

???

Spoiler: Replying to the above

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[crustlord12]

I'm a bit more worried that while this update was well written and heartwarming, I don't know if the theory/lore part of it will be able to stand up still. Feels like posters in this thread are already poking holes in explanations given by Himawari, and that while it seemed clear while I was reading it, it doesn't specifically do that under scrutiny

 

[Moonflare]

I don't know if the theory/lore part of it will be able to stand up still.

I feel like it's more that the plot of LiL is quite simple and everything complicated is just noise. Like, most of of the gods are literally spam mail.

Spoiler: thoughts

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[jclark1337]

I'm a bit more worried that while this update was well written and heartwarming, I don't know if the theory/lore part of it will be able to stand up still. Feels like posters in this thread are already poking holes in explanations given by Himawari, and that while it seemed clear while I was reading it, it doesn't specifically do that under scrutiny

Imo that's what a good story does. It doesn't HAVE to have every single little detail and plotline tied up in a nice little bow and have an explanation for everything...

It just needs to make you feel things and make you think about the what-ifs and inspire theories, no matter how wild or speculative.

 

[barglenarglezous]

So what do you think Akira's wish actually was? We know Maya is the result of it, but what was the actual wish?

"I wish someone could make the pain stop"
"I wish Ami had a friend her age"

Did he actually wish for a living fucktoy like he thinks, or was his wish more wholesome, and his trauma corrupted it after the fact?

 

[JelF547]

I'm a bit more worried that while this update was well written and heartwarming, I don't know if the theory/lore part of it will be able to stand up still. Feels like posters in this thread are already poking holes in explanations given by Himawari, and that while it seemed clear while I was reading it, it doesn't specifically do that under scrutiny

People imagine plot and then call new information a hole when it contradicts their imagination, like it always have been. As moonflare said, so far plot is too simple to have an actual flaw. It is supported by clues starting from pre-rework RWC (Sensei says, that he thought that maya is a dream girl), so it's easy to assume that it doesnt contradict anything selebus actually put into game.

Just start thinking that whatever contradicts new update content is either wrong or a minor plot hole itself

 

[JelF547]

So what do you think Akira's wish actually was? We know Maya is the result of it, but what was the actual wish?

"I wish someone could make the pain stop"
"I wish Ami had a friend her age"

Did he actually wish for a living fucktoy like he thinks, or was his wish more wholesome, and his trauma corrupted it after the fact?

Does it matter? I don't sure yet that it was even "wish" wish, it might have been done the same way he created pareidolia later.

I can even assume that Maya he got was "locked" inside his head, like a proper imaginary friend would do; and he just fucked watermelons like in "Everything is Connected". It feels in line with how absurd what happen was from Himawari's perspective.
Maya's wish in this case could just be "I wan to be a real girl".

 

[Moonflare]

So what do you think Akira's wish actually was?

maybe a mix? Akira by that point had a bizarre idea of love in a mix of "savior" and "abuser". Maya isn't just a fucktoy that's also the same age he was when Sekai started abusing/saving him - she's him.

Spoiler: The wish

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[fasoaga]

(apparently all it takes to stop being a predator is to knock up a teenager and run off with her!)

e: whoops meant asexual-Noriko

I disagree with this sentence. Because what happens is so far from this.

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The 0.53 update made it possible for Akira to eventually become the person we later see in Aomori.

This is why I am hopeful for the future of both the game as a story and Akira as a character.

This is probably why so many people liked it.

 

[Budoop]

Spoiler: Sel on 0.53 not clicking with the readers

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Spoiler: 0.54

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People didn't like it?
I think 0.53 was potentially one of the best updates in ages.
It was fucking stellar.

 

[Moonflare]

In 0.53 when he lost the daughter he learned to love, he didn't become a lifeless body he was in the beginning of the chapter 4. He accepted it and spent the last moments with Himawari while learning more about her and the world he lives.

I love that you pointed this out. That was really amazing.

 

[falco256]

ngl the whole really fucked up...but still getting glimpses of hope is making me wanna read PLIS again. Only webnovel I've read that's as screwed up as this one, just a shame it wasn't finished. Starts way way darker though. I'm curious to see whether Akira gets his shit together in this, and how he gets it together. But I'm a sucker for misfits getting together and healing their mutual traumas... rather than spiralling off of each other and making each other worse.

 

[aramaug]

On the Ami thing, there are so many replies I won't link any of them - but I did read them all.

Spoiler: Ami theory

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I don't really believe in this tbh, but since we're throwing theories out there...

This is the idea I was trying to suggest in my previous post, though like you I think it's a possibility but not particularly likely. After that post I did think of one more potential clue: Ami allegedly killed four people and dismembered two of them. There's blood everywhere in that room, and yet somehow there isn't a single drop on Ami's body. Could that mean this Ami wasn't there when the butchering happened? Of course the more reasonable answer is it's just an oversight/laziness from Sel.

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[TheGoodPastor]

Maybe being covered in blood just wasn't part of her artistic vision so she showered

As an aside was I the only one scrutinising Ami every time I pressed enter there? I kept expecting her to look up at Shiori and do some menace for some reason lol girls' creeping me out

 

[john doeer]

So what do you think Akira's wish actually was? We know Maya is the result of it, but what was the actual wish?

"I wish someone could make the pain stop"
"I wish Ami had a friend her age"

Did he actually wish for a living fucktoy like he thinks, or was his wish more wholesome, and his trauma corrupted it after the fact?

I think he wished "For someone I can love and understand" or something along those lines. I don't think he understood what love was, and his only "concrete" example in his fucked up worldview after a lifetime of being abused is Sekai. I think she was the closest thing he could point to as "love". So he wanted to see what she felt, what it was like to "save" someone.

 

[TBone9]

I can even assume that Maya he got was "locked" inside his head, like a proper imaginary friend would do; and he just fucked watermelons like in "Everything is Connected". It feels in line with how absurd what happen was from Himawari's perspective.
Maya's wish in this case could just be "I wan to be a real girl".

So Akira's name could be "Geppetto" instead.